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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have a need.
     
  2. Iron_lord

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  3. Pons

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    Interestingly, the Mark 1 (not the prototype) Starhawk's design has only been acknowledged in canon through "Battles that Changed the Galaxy." Sure Story Group members have made statements implying FFG's design is canon, but an appearance onscreen would be a nice confirmation. [​IMG]
     
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  4. ColeFardreamer

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    What are the screenmeasured length estimations for Lord Helmets flagship? We also have a nice space camper to compare some detail shots to!
     
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  5. Iron_lord

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    11 km is the most common figure that comes up when I google it.
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    What is the longest ship in the franchise?
     
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  7. ColeFardreamer

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    Luke/Leia... oh you meant spaceship.. sorry, my bad!
     
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  8. gat-65b

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    Maybe just the model angle but also the nose looks a bit shorter here than classic E-wing. I will say that I know a lot of people don't like it but I miss the top cannon. It was probably the most distinct thing about the design. Without it, looks a bit generic sci-fi starfighter. Still solid, just less unique. I'd take slightly goofy if given the choice.
     
  9. MercenaryAce

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    I could see the designs being related though, perhaps with the HSC being a descendant or inspired by this design.

    The Hutts in particular - and all the big criminal cartels in general - seem heavily reliant on mercenaries.

    As such, I could see the number of troops varying heavily depending on time and place - swelling when and where a fight is expected, and shrinking down to small personal entourage in "peace" times, with perhaps a few regiments on permanent hire for important duties (personally I headcanon the uniform Nikto troopers seen in TCW as a long standing mercenary company/ police for hire who work for the Hutt council as a whole rather than an individual kajdic and thus help keep the peace by discouraging coup attempts)

    Now, how big could they get exactly? Unfortunately that seems inconsistent. In some stories, particularly back in legends, the bigger crime syndicates could have armies more powerful than the average planetary defense force. In others they don't seem to have more than a handful of hired thugs, even in life or death battles. In particular, recently in the comics we saw the Hutt council bring up its fleet - a relatively small number of small and mid sized capital ships and converted freighters that didn't last long against an unescorted SSD. In contrast, the Hutt fleet we saw in the Essential Guide to Warfare was more impressive, though that was after their rearming after the Vong war - but then again, we actually see similar designs to that fleet in High Republic, and the Hutts seem capable of going up against the Republic as a whole (which doesn't have a standing military but can put together militia task forces pretty quick) and launching a joint campaign against the Drengir with them.

    We also recently had book of Boba Fett, where the Pykes lose about 40-60 guys in their war for Tatooine, if I remember correctly - I might be way off - which is said to be about half the forces they brought to the planet and enough for them to call it off. Notably, they don't use any ships even though TCW and other sources establish they have a fleet.

    Sooo...if I had to guess, it probably depends on how important the disputed thing is. Probably a few hundred and some junkers for fights over backwaters which had some value, and full mercenary armies and fleets in the low thousands for more important objective.

    Nice.

    (Though I have to admit - it really throws me to see it without the top laser - I understand people's complaints, but it still looks weird to me without it)
     
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  10. Sly442

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    Wouldn't be surprised if it was unintentional even. Another case of the first thing that comes up on Google Images.
     
  11. Chris0013

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    Ahsoka's T-6 Shuttle.
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  12. Noash_Retrac

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    Anything on the New Republic transport ships? Or just the NR fleet in general?
     
  13. Chris0013

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    Someone on Faceyspaces just posted a bunch of pics of this
     
  14. Noash_Retrac

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    Got a link?
     
  15. Chris0013

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    https://www.facebook.com/groups/516704659790759
     
  16. Pons

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    Highly doubt they're transports, judging from the fighter complement.
     
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  17. Long Snoot

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    I really like it, but I think they are a bit excessive in their effort to add more details to these animated ships to make them look "more realistic".
    The "greebles" in the wings are much more notable here than, say, the wings of a Lambda shuttle.
     
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  18. Senator Wan

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    Though, it is an older design than a Lambda. Maybe the extra greebling can be explained away as just being extra access and tech covering.


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  19. Tuskin38

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    The T-6 in Ahsoka also has a more YT-Looking cockpit then in Rebels/Clone Wars. I wonder if it and the Ghost’s cockpit are the same set just redressed. Also I only just noticed the T-6 itself is a modified Diamond Cruiser.

     
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  20. Pons

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    Ship shots from the new Ahsoka spot.

    NR ship kinda looks like it's got ISD parts around the trenches. This shot is very Endor-esque as well.
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    E-wing's a stubby boy.
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  22. Senator Wan

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    If it’s in this show, we’ve yet to see


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  23. Pons

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    I'd be really surprised (and disappointed) if it doesn't show up in the later seasons...
     
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  24. Tuskin38

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    Pretty sure it’s just the central portion of the Mon cal ship
     
  25. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    This may be unpopular opinion but I find the Starhawk to be overrated. Give me some good old fashioned MC80s or even the Assault Frigate Mark I.
     
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