Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

hey, that is indeed what I was thinking of as the heavy gunship candidate

but in the Asteroid Corridor fleet, that same "heavy gunship" is flying along true capital ships which appear smaller than it, but larger than the scout, which I think ARE the DP20

 

While we're talking CEC gunship-shaped ships, WotC has a METOSP on the YZ-775. It's not one of the Marvel ships, though.

 

Cool beans!

Yes, they were actually quite consistent with depicting the two types as being separate designs. Even if the main hull is truncated on the DP20s, they still have the similar lines to post-Marvel depictions.

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Military_Unit_Intelligence_Update

I noticed a redlink to the TIE Bomber Mark II

!?!?

does anyone have this AJ issue? Details?

could this = advanced TIE Bomber from Galactic Battlegrounds?

 

Rogue that arcticle is actually QUITE relevant. It indicates CEC was able to get the Imps to look the other way and allow them to make very heavily armed civ-legal ships. That actually may explain how Luke and Leia were able to buy the scout we were discussing, which is essentiallly a scaled-down gunships, and I always thought seemed too well-armed for a civvie

 

Found a small photo of some CW ships. I like the Malevolence, like a mix of Recusant and Providence classes. What are those other vessels though, in the small boxes? I see a Lucrehulk but that's it.

 

The text box mentions "Banking Clan frigates, Trade Federation battleships, and Commerce Guild destroyers" as making up "the bulk of the Separatist fleet." That's probably what's depicted.

 

I believe the second vessel may be a heavily modified Lucrehulk-class Core Ship, similar to the one used as a command center by General Grievous on Utapau. The third seems vaguely similar to an AA-9 freighter.

 

I don't appreciate you stealing the images I take and post and claiming them as your own. You can still see my bedspread in the corner.

 

I never claimed it as my own, in fact I said I found the photo, which I did, on a very hilarious thread on Stardestroyer.net. Reposted it to save bandwidth for the original poster.

 

Then you should have credited me with the actual work. To take another's work and not duly credit them for it is plagiarism. An even better response would have been to ask me if you could repost it prior to doing so.

 

I know, I just didn't want to make the SDN connection given some animosity towards it on this site. Here's the proper link.

 

No, sadly, it does not explain the multi-pod bombers from SWGB. It's a proposal by Tomax Bren that eventually became the Scimitar assault bomber.

 

How exactly is reposting pictures of copyrighted material supposed to be "stealing" and "plagiarism"? LOL!

 

Was the Demolisher in the new Starships of the Galaxy book? I don't recall seeing it in there.

It was originally going to be in there, at least, since Jeff Carlisle did some art for the book that includes the Demolisher.

Looks like it has six dorsal turbolaser turrets, which weren't seen in the undetailed cartoon version.

 

Just a heads up guys, I expect the Malevolence to become the next Executor length fight. I could be wrong, but the impression I get from the shots in the Visual Guide to the Clone War is that its exact size changes from scene to scene (AKA "The BOP Problem"). The size of the ship relative to the windows on it seems to change between closeup and far away shots; though admittedly I could be wrong.

At least we have an explanation for the fighters taking out capital ships thing this time - Ion cannons fire plasma, which, as it has mass, requires a hole in the shields to pass through.

 

well we got the same BS pulled on the providence in EP3 IMO, somehow got to be 1088m with it changing size in the the battle of coruscant almost every other scene. Depth of field issues and odd placement with other ships in these two shots 1 2 as well as in the broadside scene and when escorted by the munifiscents. It shouldn't be much more than 1.5x its 'official' size though...

with the incredibly weak hulls of separatist warships and the high automation / droid complements it is interesting to see most of their vessels being the ones mounting ion cannons and not the Republic's. Even if ion cannons were not fitted to existing ships for other reasons it seems odd that the republic didn't use them much more. The only vessels I can think of being the ywings, eta-2 and victory II's all relatively late war vessels.

 

I really don't see any indication the animators dropped the ball on the Providence shots based on those shots. The ships are so clustered and so far into the background on that second shot, there's no way of telling where the Invisible Hand is.

Well, we only see a little of the ship fighting through three years, and there's always room for modifications on every class, so it's pretty up in the air.

 

I'm not a HS member anymore, but I remember that there was a ROTS starship size chart for the CG models. According to that chart, the Providence-class is 4,200 feet or 1,280 meters in length (that's slightly longer than the Venator-class which was listed at 1,133 meters). Of course, that could've changed as the production went on.

 

Yeah, I would think it's one of the Interdictor Star Destroyers seen in the comics. Especially since the Dominator was called a "dreadnaught" several times in the Phantom Affair comic, IIRC...

Here's an image of the Black Sword repair yard from CTD. Perhaps that Interdictor is the Imperator? It's different from any known class, though, judging by the engine configuration and size.

 

Possibly. The dreadnaught moniker applied to an Executor-size ship as far back as 1981 (Darth Vader Strikes), so it's possible it is meant to be something in a similar size. Interestingly enough, the outline of the Aramadia in GATORW is similar to the interdictor look-a-like seen here.

If the vessel in the back is an Executor-class ship, the one in the front would be about 8km long. In other words, two different SSDs corresponding to two out of three SSDs in Black Sword Command.

 

the only explaination for the warrior is that it is a shield tank and can survive being in an engagement in with a star destroyer as a support vessel. unfortunately the ship is a pile of crap to look at, has no reactor space and has minimal surface area so any claim that it can outfight anything is dubious.

again with the Republic SD it looks to be a shield tank utilizing a lot of mon cal designs, the majestic doesn't even have in game stats to back up its claims so again I can't even begin to imagine it being able to be effective (as a long range patrol and gun platform with high maneuverability it looks like a good candidate)

 

I noticed that both Marvel gunship types, the DP20 and the long-multiengine, are based on concept art seen in Making of SW