Would you classify Freedon Nadd as a Sith? Most of the EU source books do not classify him as a Sith and that is what bothers me. It is presumed Nadd traveled to Yavin 4 and that he learned the dark ways from Sadow, so (in my opinion) that would most certainly make him a Sith Lord. Apparently, Nadd killed Sadow, so that he could become the Master.
Freedon Nadd always struck me as sort of a... poser... Sith. I mean, I think he was a Sith, but he was sort of a lame one, a man without a plan so to speak. IIRC (and I'm pulling this from memory since I don't have time at the moment to read that wall of text entry on the Wook), he wanted to be teh most paherful dude eva, but after having a bunch of hissy fits he went to Naga Sadow, somehow was able to defeat him (I find this hard to believe), and then became a retired old fogey after conquering just one planet. Just one. Not even a big or populated planet at that. Some guy who ate grapefruit in TCW did that too. And that guy wasn't even a Sith. I think some people don't want to classify him as a Sith because, when compared to I-Eat-Planets-For-Breakfast-Nihilus, or I-Ran-Two-Sides-Of-A-War-Palpatine, or I-Have-A-Birdcage-On-My-Head-I-Created-Millenium-Spanning-Laws-Bane, he's a whiney spoiled ex-Jedi-dropout. All talk and no bite.
Well he contributed in the training of Exar Kun who (according to Gnost-Dural) was chosen by the Dark Lords of old to be the new Dark Lord
I think most sources call him a Sith. Not sure if the TOTJ comics did originally but if not most later sources just kind of assumed he was. For some reason no one can ever keep the TOTJ backstory straight.
As originally introduced by Master Arca "Jazzy" Jeth: "Freedon Nadd was seduced by the dark side, four centuries ago. He apprenticed himself to a DARK LORD OF THE SITH! In the tradition of the Sith, there can be only ONE Dark Lord at a time... unable to become a Sith Lord as long as his master lived, Nadd came to Onderon to make himself a KING." I actually have a huge soft spot for the guy because of his fairly modest ambitions. In a world where every writer is constantly trying to one up each other with the latest giant dark side threat to the galaxy, a planetary conquerer stands out as being far more interesting.
So when did "gave up on being Dark Lord because there already was one and ran away to pout" get changed to "killed the current Dark Lord and became the Dark Lord himself"? And was his master always Naga Sadow? In that context it doesn't sound like the Sith Lord he was apprenticed to was (supposedly) the last Sith left in the galaxy.
HOW DARE YOU! Nadd's goal was to chill out on Onderon until his death, and then just haunt people for lulz. He was immensely successful.
I always wondered about that actually, I mean how many people can possible keep dropping in on them to pick from to be the next Dark Lord?
I'm not sure. Around the time KJA got on board, I would imagine. Nope. When Veitch introduced Sadow later down the line, it was as a pure blooded "Sith Sorcerer" who had been exiled and stood in opposition to the Dark Lords: "Sadow was a member of an elite priesthood, of PURE SITH BLOOD, who were in rebellion against their RULERS, the FALLEN JEDI who wore the title DARK LORDS OF THE SITH". Though he still looked completely human. TotJ continuity is, uh, a bit of a mess.
It's the same as the OT/pre-PT EU and the PT/TCW material. It's just a little off and it only matters to those who actually really give a ****
I think the guy who appointed Exar Dark Lord was intended to be Nadd's master. Recall "He is ready, Nadd." In fact, I think Nadd was this guy's pawn.
yes, but Nadd's spirit might still have taken advice from Ragnos's spirit. I love the topic of TOTJ continuity. A novel about either Freedon Nadd or Marka Ragnos would be awesome!
Oh, come now, Skelicus, these days TotJ actually looks like good continuity compared to most other things.
What other things? What really shocks me about TOTJ is that it's a case of the EU contradicting itself rather than a case of higher canon ignoring the EU.
No, it's a case of KJA ignoring Veitch Veitch worked out a whole continuity from ancient times to post ROTJ. KJA ignored that, as did other EU authors, until most of it was forgotten. That's a shame, imo, 'cause Veitch did a better job than anyone else and really "got" where GL is coming from.
It's also a case of KJA ignoring himself, actually. But I do agree that it's a shame how Veitch's logical timeline got retconned to death.
Well, strictly speaking, Kressh did become Dark Lord and banished Sadow. That it didn't stick doesn't stop some Kressh loyalist writing a version of Sth history which is then quoted. With the hodgepodge of canon sticky-taped to Sadow, I've been mentally assuming Sadow put himself into stasis, was awoke by Nadd, who found he was on Yavin via Asha Ree/Korriban, where he undoubtedly met Marka Ragnos' shade, and then Nadd killed Sadow at the end - Sadow's spirit simply endures and Nadd moves on. Again, some historians (probably Vitiate's), don't consider him a Dark Lord while Sadow still exists, and that gets quoted. This doesn't cover the Sith descended from Shar Dakhan's faction, presumably among the being those three Sith harrying the Order between the Great Hyperspace and Old Sith Wars and who killed a Sunrider... ... Nadd's contribution is valid - he infected a whole world and from at seed sprouted the Old Sith, with a little assistance from Marka Ragnos. Speaking of which, him returning in Jedi Academy was beyond awesome.
Of course there there is the unreliable narrator retcon, but KJA is still guilty of making those retcons neccesary in the first place.
I have no opinion on this subject, but I would say that Nadd is up there with some of the funnier names in SW. I can here Butthead now goin "huh huh Nadd...huh huh"!!
