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George Lucas Should NOT Direct Episode 3!!

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by dahveed72, Aug 1, 2002.

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  1. Jedi_Learner

    Jedi_Learner Jedi Knight star 5

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    "You need STATISTICS to realize that?"

    All I'm going to say to you Dahveed72 is that your afraid of the truth and you cannot prove otherwise to us.
     
  2. dahveed72

    dahveed72 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    again, you believe that because it makes you feel better. so who am i to argue?
     
  3. Jedi_Learner

    Jedi_Learner Jedi Knight star 5

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    Actually, I'm waiting for some statistics. Until you give us some, then I'll believe your mistaken. [face_plain]
     
  4. KaaShamau

    KaaShamau Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's all a matter of opinion.

    I think GL should direct Episode III because it's his story and his film.
     
  5. Imperial_Guard

    Imperial_Guard Jedi Padawan star 4

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    dahveed72,
    Whoa, some people didn't like TPM? Some people hated it, you say? [face_shocked] I guess I better move out from under my rock.

    But many people hated it? I'd have to say that most people enjoyed it and didn't really care what the critics or fans thought. Or are you going to tell me that 400+ million was just all diehard SW gushers?
     
  6. CowMoo

    CowMoo Jedi Master star 3

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    Um, neither side can really "prove" their beliefs. There has been no scientific poll of moviegoers of what they thought of TPM that I am aware.

    Some thought it was rubbish, a bunch of special effects or that it was an excellant prelude to the saga. Box Office stats are quite frankly misleading. For now, both are right because none is wrong.

    Besides, if you really want to know how TPM is recieved, you will get better results about 20 or 30 years from now.
     
  7. dahveed72

    dahveed72 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There was no such thing as gusher or basher until AFTER everyone had seen it at least once. And i mean EVERYONE.

    If you were surpised TPM did so much business, fine. We werent. Even after seeing that glorified Power Rangers Episode of a movie, i was actually surprised it didnt beat Titanic.
     
  8. Imperial_Guard

    Imperial_Guard Jedi Padawan star 4

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    dahveed72,

    Yes there was. Or did everybody love ROTJ prior to TPM? The basher/gusher thing is quite old really and it goes back to ROTJ. It's just that the internet has only given ROTJ bashers a recent voice and a much more recent one for these boards when you consider that they're only, what, 4 years old?

    And TPM's business didn't really surprise me at all (if you were referring to me), it was right around where I thought it would be. (where the heck did I say that I was surprised?) If anyone should have been surprised, it should have been you, not me. Actually, I find your comment on the box office kind of baffling. You hated the film and obviously hold it in very low regard but thought it should have beaten Titanic? :confused:

    And who's "we"? Are you speaking for some segment of fandom now?
     
  9. Jedi_Ross

    Jedi_Ross Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah, ok, and Steven Spielberg shouldn't have directed Indiana Jones. :b
     
  10. yerykenobi

    yerykenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah,ok, and Steven Spielberg shouldn´t have directed Indiana Jones

    [face_laugh]
     
  11. Jedi_THX

    Jedi_THX Jedi Youngling

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    Don't get me wrong, AOTC was a great movie, but the acting seemed a bit stale. Kershner did a great job in ESB evolving the story. So GL didn't even get to direct the "I am your father" scene.

    I think someone with Kershner's ability should direct Episode 3. Lucas first said that he would direct Episode 1 to get the ball rolling and let someone else direct Episode 2 and 3. I haven't seen that happen. And seeing as that Episode 3 is the most anticipated movie in the entire Star Wars saga, it should revolve more around the characters and not special effects.
     
  12. Philip023

    Philip023 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I totally agree with dahveed and the above poster. I've been waging a war of words with the GL apologists in the forum: Has GL bit off more than he can chew and the other one, What could kill EP3?

    Yeah, GL said he would direct EP1 and hand it off to other directors after he set the tone. He didn't do it. And after seeing TPM, I sure wish he had.

    I would go with the following possibilities: Fincher, Shamylan, Fuqua (Training Day) or go back to the old school with Kirshner and Kasdan.

    Its all to obvious GL can't direct an actor cuz he hates them and can't write a good script cuz he holds no importance in acting. ESB was great cuz of the writing and the acting, which was brought out by the fine direction of Kirshner.

    I like all SW films cuz they're entertaining but if we rank them, ESB and ANH come out on top, no question.

    George should not direct EP3.
     
  13. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    `Fincher, Shamylan, Fuqua'

    Why these? Fincher is probably too dark to film them. Shamylams' preferred style is too off the mark for the B-movie feel of SW, and well, who's the other guy?

    It's all our opinions folks. You're both right and wrong.
     
  14. Darth_Tarpals

    Darth_Tarpals Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have a simple answer to all these questions.. Nothing can ruin Episode 3, George MUST direct it, and it will be the greatest ever. I'm not going to be dissapointed. :D
     
  15. Philip023

    Philip023 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    dahveed72 there's no use talking to these GL apologists.

    TPM, while entertaining, by and large sucked ass. Check out the Phantom Edit - now that is a good film (most scenes of Jar Jar eliminated and the movie is shorter).

    AOTC, while better, still lacked punch. Love lines of Padme and Anakin were excruciatingly awful and the movie had only two powerful scenes that advanced the story.

    The question remains: with a movie so important to the SW STORY - not me or any other fan - should GL direct EP3, given the poor showing of direction he gave EP1 and 2?

    The answer is a resounding no! And you know why, swfan2002?

    Because there was no phenomenon or buzz after either movie like there was after the first trilogy. Ordinary movie fans merely shrugged and moved on. Die hard SW fans, eager to regain part of their youth, liked the movie, saw it was being panned, and sought to vigorously defend it like a kid defending his favorite toy. In fact, the commercial success of that film was only because it was the first SW movie in 16 years and of the special effects.

    AOTC was no different and, in fact, after its first week of release, it sank like David Caruso's career. It wasn't even the top film of the summer by a longshot! Regular theatergoers, turned off by Phantom, stayed away.

    Sorry dude, EP3 is too important to leave to Lucas to direct. Let him write the story, produce, do the effects and anything else, but for gods sake, let someone else take the directors chair.

     
  16. Ekenobi

    Ekenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I thought Kershner died.
     
  17. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Someone here told me that they think he's still alive. He wished Lucas would let him direct one now (guess he regretted not doing ROTJ when offered).

    He mentioned he like to add more humour. :)
     
  18. JBFett-v_2

    JBFett-v_2 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think it would be awesome if Kevin Smith directed Star Wars, no wait Quinten Tarentino - THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!....anyone but George.

    Blah Blah Blah....I'm a big moron and talk alot of trash.

    [face_laugh]

    this debate is a joke.
     
  19. Masterson

    Masterson Jedi Youngling

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    Hey, what a great idea lets get anoughter director, ohh, wait, while we are at it, why not hope that Jean Claude Van Damme can play Anikin, ohh and Steven Segal can play OB1, man, that would really be cool!

    What´s wrong with you people? GL is the only one who can make the last SW movie EVER!
    I can´t even believe a SW fan would ever want somebody else directing it.
     
  20. Glockenspiel

    Glockenspiel Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The danger dog will bite your ankle
    The danger dog will bite your ear
    The danger dog will bite your bottom
    Iffff you come neeeeaarr
    That's the danger dog

    DOG!

     
  21. Philip023

    Philip023 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Masterson, no one is saying he shouldn't make the last film. What alot of people are saying is that he should leave the directing to someone else because he SUCKS as a director......and writer if I may add.

    Let him write the story but let someone else do the screenplay, editing and directing.

    The danger dog song. lol What movie is that from?
     
  22. Darthsithattack

    Darthsithattack Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What are you freaks insane of course gw shoud write and direct the final Starwars. Starwars would not be the same and I would get real mad if he didn't write it. So There!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ARHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  23. VEHDER

    VEHDER Jedi Master

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    Addressing some earlier posts...

    "TPM, while entertaining, by and large sucked ass. Check out the Phantom Edit - now that is a good film"

    If the Phantom edit was a good film than the Direction must have been fine. After all it was a minor re-edit, it must have been the Editing that made TPM "suck Ass". Gl was not the Editor.

    "AOTC, while better, still lacked punch. Love lines of Padme and Anakin were excruciatingly awful"

    ...This a Screenplay issue not direction. But you go on to say let him write 3 so it must not be that bad

    "he should leave the directing to someone else because he SUCKS as a director......and writer if I may add."

    GL Wrote and Directed STAR WARS and AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Both film are listed by the American Film Institute as two of the greatest films ever made. Both films were among the very first 25 to be preserved by the Library of Congress. Not to mention both were nominated in nearly every major catagory by the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts, and Science.

    Gl Started this he will finish it.
     
  24. Darth_Tarpals

    Darth_Tarpals Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well.. I've only got one thing to say. Yes he should. [face_plain]
     
  25. Imperial_Guard

    Imperial_Guard Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Its all to obvious GL can't direct an actor cuz he hates them and can't write a good script cuz he holds no importance in acting. ESB was great cuz of the writing and the acting, which was brought out by the fine direction of Kirshner.

    Yeah, GL hates actors. Could you please sound like more of a cliche?

    GL seemed to work pretty good with Hayden Christensen in the confession scene where he compromised with Hayden on the direction of how the scene was supposed to be played.

    And I'm not sure who this "Kirshner" is but Kershner did do a pretty good job on ESB. He also had a great script from Lawrence Kasdan to work with. I think GL might have had something to do with the story and overseeing the script and film too. I dunno. Can anyone confirm that? [face_plain]

    I like all SW films cuz they're entertaining but if we rank them, ESB and ANH come out on top, no question

    Did GL not direct ANH?

    I think GL can direct just fine. If anything, I would like to see collaboration on the script as with Hales on AOTC. I would love to see Kasdan come back for Episode III but I think Hales is handling some of the script chores again.

    And why do I get this feeling that Philip023 is actually dahveed72?



     
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