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Han Solo is Indiana Jones' ancestor

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  1. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    You know, I wrote a SW/Indy crossover fic. And a sequel.

    -sj loves kevin spacey
     
  2. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Don't forget about how E.T. come into this theory!
     
  3. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Earth is also not in the "outer rim" of this galaxy, and the "core" of our galaxy is completely uninhabitable.
     
  4. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You sure? I've always been under the impression that Earth was located on the edge of the galaxy and not coreward.
     
  5. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If I'm not mistaken, I believe our solar system is roughly 30,000 light years out from the center of the galaxy (approximately halfway out). Depending what map of the GFFA you trust most, you might say halfway out is far enough to be part of the outer rim, but it's definitely not the far reaches of the galaxy.

    Also, I don't think our galaxy's neighboring Magellanic clouds are really analogous to the Rishi maze.
     
  6. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmmm. I'll have to research Earth's position in the milky way.

    Earth may not be in the Rishi Maze, but that does not discount the possibility it is not in the GFFA either.

    Now to show my geekiness, according to my Gamer GFFA map, there is a section of the Unknown Regions very close to the deep core. Since estimates of the GFFA are it is 100,000 light years across, and you say Earth is only 30k lightyears from the core. That could very well place Earth in the UR closest to the Deep Core of the GFFA.
     
  7. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I miss this topic. [face_mischief]
     
  8. J-Solo

    J-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow..all of this sound trekkier and trekkier by the minute. :)

    So, assuming this is serious, let's play.

    what other explanation could you offer for them being in the same series of films, and looking so similar?

    A million ones. The easiest was already mentioned. They are fictional characters created by the same guy, played by the same actor.

    Quote from Harrison Ford: "Indiana Jones is smarter than Han Solo" (Inside the Actor's Studio interview).

    Star Wars does take place in the same Dimension as Indiana Jones (Lucas, Time, 6/11/84) therefore it would be highly unlikely they weren't related.

    Well, the fact that A is true doesnt mean that B is also true. By that reasoning, you could say that Palpatine is Bellocq's ancestor.

    Don't just guess, because I would remind you I have studied this topic nonstop for several years.

    And your reasoning is still so vague? Maybe it's because, well, you're looking for some kind of holy grail? Oh, that would be Indy. Maybe you two are related. :D

    As for the GFFA and Earth be related, I may be wrong, but don't those kids in one of the Ewoks films come from Earth?

    ps: don't take what I've said too seriously. I'm just fooling around with something that, I'm sorry, I find just plain funny (not to say ridiculous).





     
  9. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hmmmm a disbeliever I see.

    Next you're going to say that Saunden is not Norton from the Honeymooners ancester. He clearly is! The connection between our world and the GFFA is so blatently obvious. ;)

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  10. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    From the novel of ANH Han Solo makes a referance to "...the Fire Rings of Fornax."

    If you click here and look to the lower left you will see the Fornax Cluster.

    Now, this would be a cluster of whole galaxies, but I always thought it made for a nice fake hint.

    It is approx 40 million light years away. I have seen estimates for the Falcon's speed to be anywhere from 10 million to 40 million times lightspeed, so it would take a ship that fast 1-4 years to get here.

     
  11. Bad_Feeling

    Bad_Feeling Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This topic is fantastic! Could someone dig up the quote in which Lucas says that Indy and SW take place in the same dimension?
     
  12. timbolton

    timbolton Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The idea that the Star Wars galaxy and the Earth galaxy will sometime meet is really fascinating. If you read the quote below, it is clear that Lucas never intended for fans to make such connections, but by using underlying Earth mythology as the basis for his story, by using Earth names (e.g., Padme?s family is full of first names taken from Hindu India), and making the film relevant to an Earth audience, it is clear that he cannot escape this kind of speculation.

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    ?Star Wars did not always take place ?a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away ...? The treatment (The Star Wars) set the story in the thirty-third century, during a period of civil war in the galaxy. In fact, the famous line appeared for the first time in the fourth draft and read: ?A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away an incredible adventure took place.?

    George Lucas: ?I knew from the beginning that I was not doing science fiction. I was doing space opera, a fantasy film, a mythological piece, a fairy tale. I really thought I needed to establish from the start that this was a completely made up world so that I could do anything I wanted.?
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    pp. 5-6 [Star Wars: The Annotated Screenplays, Laurent Bouzereau (Titan Books, 1997)]
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    But there are openings in the whole Earth meets SW galaxy. At some point in the far future of the SW Galaxy, they will reach our own date. It will obviously take a long time. Whether technology ever reaches the stage that means a race can travel across many galaxies (like the Yuuzhan Vong allegedly did), is the stuff of science fiction and not Lucas? idea of space opera. I think when it comes to space opera, and Star Wars in particular, you have to suspend some disbelief. So in theory, Han Solo may well be a descendant of Indiana Jones. Just because they are of a different intellect does not mean that they are not related. I am sure dumb people litter everyone?s family line lol.

    But what if there was some event in Earth?s future where time travel was discovered, by accident or design. What would happen if someone from Earth traveled back to the SW Galaxy? What affects would a person from Earth have to the beliefs of the SW people?

    This complex issue is the premise for a SW fan fiction comic that I am helping to write for a friend on the Dark Horse Comic boards, a brilliant artist called Holly. Holly has created an Earth character with fleshed-out background. The idea is to bring her character, Alexis Hawke (a space fighter pilot defending the Earth from the onslaught of a merciless alien threat), into the SW galaxy in a ?Planet of the Apes? style mishap. What happens next will change the face of the SW galaxy as the two sides of the Galactic conflict realize that there is a Human homeworld out there, and that we have several surprises for Alexis when she crashes into the SW galaxy, least of all the fact that the aliens she left behind attacking Earth are not out of her life just yet ...
    If I have captured your interest in this at all, please visit Holly?s website at:

    Chronicles of Alexis Hawke
     
  13. DarthBoba

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    Proof that the GFFA may well have contact with other galaxies is in the name of one of the Separatist groups:

    the "Intergalactic Banking Clan". Either this is overoptimism on the part of the clan's board of directors, or they actually have contact with other galaxies. From there, IMO at least, it's not that improbable that perhaps the IG bank clan has contact with our galaxy. Perhaps not our planet, but at least others in our galaxy. From there, it's likely that other groups have been outside the GFFA. If a banking clan can do it, then surely others can as well, right?
    Maybe even smugglers, evading GFFA laws by going elsewhere?
     
  14. Holly_l

    Holly_l Jedi Youngling

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    hey thanks Tim!

    glad we could fit a little shameless self promo in here... it is, after all, relavent to the topic.
     
  15. Darth_Reign

    Darth_Reign Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well we know that C-3PO and R2-D2 visited Earth around 4000 years ago, in the Indy universe.

    They are carved into the wall behind Indy inside the well of souls. When he first lays eyes on the ark you can see them on Indy's right over his shoulder.


    EDIT: Does this mean that Donovan is General Veer's great, great, great, etc. grandfather?
     
  16. ObiwanJohn

    ObiwanJohn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Um Im missing something. When did "A galaxy far, far away" equate to the Milky Way? SW is in a different galaxy.
     
  17. DerthNader

    DerthNader Jedi Knight star 5

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    But there are openings in the whole Earth meets SW galaxy

    And many ways to incorporate this idea into a fanfiction approach. ;)

    This is coming from someone who has spent almost two decades working on a story (okay, mini-epic 8-}) where the SW galaxy and Earth intersect. But I'm more interested in pursuing the idea of the present-day intersecting with that galaxy. If anyone remembers one of the original trailers for ANH, there's a line in it about "These events may all be taking place right now", or something along those lines. That's the angle I'm trying to approach. :D

    How many fanfics where Earth and SW meet are there? It is a compelling idea to ponder, one has to admit.
     
  18. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    According to this This blooper and trivia site the guy in the cantina with a space suit on is wearing an American Flag.
    I cannot make out the picture to well, I have not found any other shots of it. Scroll down to the third selection.
    If you watch the movie it's the guy with his helmut on walking from right to left onscreen just after Luke walks in and takes a look around.
     
  19. YODAS_HALF_BROTHER

    YODAS_HALF_BROTHER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I hate to spoil all the fun but if Han and Leia did get all the way hear, what happened to their faster-than-the-speed-of-light vessel? Why can't Indy hit warp speed 5 and beat the Nazis to the Holy Grail and be done with it. Wait a minute, I just thought of a good fan-fic.....

     
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