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ST Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader) in IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by BalanceOfTheForce, Feb 13, 2018.

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Will Anakin appear in IX?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. whoiswhatnow

    whoiswhatnow Jedi Youngling

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    Just like with the Special Edition insertion of him into Ghost scene, it makes no sense. No one in this trilogy or even the Orig Trig knew him as Hayden Christensen, so why project that image? It would be like you seeing a ghost of your favorite great aunt, but when she was a child and you have no idea who she is.
     
  2. miasma

    miasma Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think it would make perfect sense. If he appeared to Kylo, it would help show Kylo who Vader really was. If Kylo didn't recognize him and didn't have enough intuition through the force to figure it out, well, that's what dialogue is for. I could easily see picture it playing out something like this:
    [Anakin's ghost appears]
    Kylo: "Who are you?!"
    Anakin: "You know who I am."
    Kylo: "I don't know who you are! Stay away!"
    Anakin: "You aspired to be the monster I became, and look what it brought you."
    Kylo: "Grandfather?"
     
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  3. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    Actually it would be fascinating if Anakin appears to Kylo 2-3x and doesn't answer the question of who he is. He tells Kylo that he should be able to answer the question himself.

    Although it would make more sense really for Luke to appear to Kylo. I am not sure I believe ghost Anakin fits in the ST.
     
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  4. eko32eko7

    eko32eko7 Jedi Master star 3

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    This sounds freaking incredible. My imagination spun up so fast I almost flipped a lid.... then I immediately heard in the back of by brain "if you don't know me by now..." LOL.
    I agree, given the momentum of the trilogy so far, but I really like the idea of the Force itself haunting Kylo. This could take the form of Luke or Anakin, IMO. I sometimes imagine Obi Wan haunting Vader on Mustafar. What does Vader mean when he says "Obi Wan once thought as you do". When was that?

    I'm geeking out here now, but how awesome would it be for Kylo to return to Mustafar and that be the catalyst for Anakin to appear.
     
  5. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    It makes complete sense that Anakin/Vader appears to Kylo, Luke enrages Kylo, so what's the point? Anakin/Vader may just be the one that he'll listen to, even if he believes the past offers him nothing.
     
  6. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    I like this as well and the "if you don't know me by now..." I mean, it is fitting since Kylo has accomplished Vader's dream by defeating his master (knock on wood). And it did it at least in part, or in the beginning, in Vader's name (even if it's now more about him than Vader).
     
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  7. lovethedarkside

    lovethedarkside Jedi Knight star 2

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    I disagree. Other than Luke, no one IU saw Anakin as Sebastian Shaw. But there could be a bunch of holograms floating around of young General Skywalker. If Kylo or anyone found one, they'd be of Hayden.
     
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  8. Roosterq

    Roosterq Jedi Knight star 3

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    He could appear to Kylo as Vader then remove the helmet to reveal HC. No question there who he is then. What the message would be is anyone's guess.
     
  9. The Legions of Lettow

    The Legions of Lettow Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, Luke and Leia are back. How about Pappy?
     
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  10. ChrisLyne

    ChrisLyne Force Ghost star 4

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    I'm crossing my fingers that with Luke confirmed they're saving Anakin for a surprise.
     
  11. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    To be fair it makes abit more sense to have Leia and Luke then it does Anakin in the film.

    The film can't really be Star Wars all stars so you know they will want a lot of focus on the new characters then even the Originals.

    It would be nice but there really needs to be a good reason to include him in the mix.
     
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  12. ChrisLyne

    ChrisLyne Force Ghost star 4

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    Looking at the ST alone I get that, but looking at the Saga as a whole then it makes more sense to me for Anakin to be in it. This is the end of the Skywalker Saga, that alone is reason enough for Anakin to have a role.
     
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  13. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Its the end of the skywalker saga but its also the final episode of the sequel trilogy for the new characters. there are probably other ways to include ties to the skywalkers then including anakin who rey, kylo and others haven't really associated with.

    They could include him fairly easy with Kylo more perhaps than luke since its not really lukes story anymore. but when you currently already have Leia, luke and Lando coming back you know that they won't have huge roles where the new characters are concerned, so its very much a balancing thing for even the Original characters.

    It would be nice. but anakin probably doesn't fit in the same way as Luke and Leia currently.
     
  14. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    No one still alive, save for the droids, even know how Anakin looks.

    He ain't appearing
     
  15. skybender

    skybender Jedi Knight star 2

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    Actually, I think Anakin fits perfectly into the story. In TFA, Kylo was obsessed with becoming a mini Vader. Wouldn't it make sense for Anakin to appear to him and knock some sense in? Like, "Hey, why are you imitating me? Family is the most important thing, and that's why I went down the path I did. You've destroy yours, blah blah blah." But I doubt he'll appear.
     
  16. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Really the best way to include anakin would be with Kylo. not another force ghost line up like in episode 6.

    Anakin would work best with Kylo IMO then he would just standing next to luke just for the sake of father and son.
     
  17. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    The reason why I said he may not fit is that we have Luke who already said "see ya around kid" and who could be the ghostly presence haunting Kylo. It almost would seem redundant to use Anakin when Luke can fulfill this role.
     
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  18. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    To not have Anakin would be utterly senseless.

    He should have been in TLJ already instead of Yoda.

    Well hopefully Luke will revealed to be not dead in IX.

    There is no reason for him to be dead in IX as all he did was disappear in TLJ and he didn't even leave his mechanical arm behind and he would if he were "really" dead.

    Also how do you possibly do a conclusion where father and son don't have at least one scene?

    To actually tie this all together in any meaningful way requires a lot of work tying Anakin, Luke and Ren as well as whatever role Rey plays.
     
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  19. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    But you know he will appear to Rey since they pretty much have unfinished business given how they left off in TLJ, and he is bound to give her words of wisdom and stuff.

    Anakin makes sense because Anakin is everything Kylo doesn't wanna be. he wants to be Vader but its clear he is probably closer to being Anakin then Vader. with luke it would just be him appearing to haunt him? there could be abit more with luke trying to talk sense into Kylo but he kinda said everything to him in TFA with the whole "i failed you" stuff.
     
  20. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    Luke can appear to both Rey and Kylo. Easy.
     
  21. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    I do get why they chose Yoda. its because they wanted to go back to that relationship from ESB. rather than having anakin and luke talking thats very unfamiliar to the audience.
     
  22. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Could do. although personally i could see it being more likely with Rey.

    They haven't given us enough of Luke and Kylo to really get that relationship.
     
  23. skybender

    skybender Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think Luke's "See you around, kid" was meant as more metaphorical than literal. Before that, he says "Strike me down in anger, and I'll always be with you, just like your father." Kylo did just that. Did actually strike him down? No, but I guess he did inadvertently. That was his turning point, and there was no going back. He will always carry that guilt with him. I think that's what he meant. Of course, it could be literal, and he could be that cheesy force ghost haunting him, but I don't see why Luke would try to appear to him/he would take advice from Luke at this point. Now, I don't put it past JJ to do this, but from a story standpoint, the two rather hate each other. That's why it would make more sense for Anakin to appear to Kylo (and Luke to appear to Rey).
     
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  24. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    See ya around kid, is a suggestive line.
     
  25. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    yes but instead we get the nonsense of Luke having learned nothing and going back to Yoda having to teach him what he already learned decades ago. Far more important that Anakin gives back to Luke after Luke taught Anakin in ROTJ.

    Which is why that is needed in IX even though since they talked many times for 20 odd years after ROTJ but we didn't see that. So it needs to be done in the movies.

    I see that as a Han Solo quip that Luke used to remind him of Han. Not that he'd actually see him again literally.
     
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