ST Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader) in IX

Are ya sure? I remember a few posters telling me a few years ago it was extensions. In the ROTS DVD, Hayden's hair never looks as long as it does in the film when he does interviews which I assume were done while the film was being shot. I am pretty sure the back was hair extensions. Though, that could be for the 2004 reshoots since most of the film was shot in 2003.

That is true tho. Hayden can have facial hair for all I care

 

Koenig had to wear a toupee at the beginning of season 2 because he hadn’t grown his hair out. Shatner has needed a toupee since elementary school. Stewart also suffered from baldness early on, but apparently never cared.


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Than there is Sean Connery. Who wore a toupee since the earliest days of playing James Bond. But unlike William Shatner, or most actors, never made any effort to hide it. He never wore wigs or toupees outside his film roles. Interviews and film premieres it was clear he was balding even during the 1960s. Even played some roles with his natural bald look. I think embracing it early on allowed him to bounce back and forth with wigs or without and the public excepted it. Allowed him to naturally age in his roles. Just remembered - when he returned as James Bond in “Never Say Never Again” he wanted to go without his toupee to show Bond as older. But the producers were against it.

On Hayden’s hair - I think most people never questioned, complained or where even aware he wore a wig because it was completely consistent in every scene. The few pickup shots of Ewan in AOTC with hair extensions and a fake beard standout because it’s not a perfect match to his natural look in previously shot scenes.

There is no doubt there are bad wigs and toupees. But often I think they pass based on whether we are trained to get used to it or not. Samuel L Jackson has shaved his head for decades. Any hair he has in movies since about the 90s is a wig. Some look over the top and others seemless. But it’s so much part of his style we except it for the characters.

I met Hayden in April, told him he looks exactly the same. I said if anyone asked him he could easily play Anakin again. He gave me a very interesting smile...
which I will be sure what it meant when the film comes out.

We are lucky Hayden has aged so well. Like it or not, people are so critical. If he was balding, he is not. But if he was some people would complain about him wearing a wig to hide it even if it was really well done.

 

Heh, watched Never Say Never Again pretty recently, old-guy Bond is a blast. Movie's kinda blahh, but yeah, cool seeing Connery just not give a **** about trying to fake-youth it up.

 

Right. And Connery looked great either way. I remember the Never Say Never Again situation. I thought they game him extra money to wear the toupee.


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Hayden should be the next Bond.

 

An American Bond?

Well, Barry Nelson, who also gave Jack Nicholson his job in the The Shining. Hitchcock was interested in James Stewart, and Fleming was cool with it if Stewart could sport a British accent. Steve Reeves was considered to be the first Bond. Maybe Adam West S a replacement for Connery. Burt Reynolds, Brian Dennehy. John Gavin landed the role before Broccoli got Connery to come back for Diamonds Are Forever. And I think Thanos’ father, James Brolin, had it before Broccoli persuaded Moore to return for A View to a Kill. I think even Christopher Reeve was considered at one time to replace Moore.


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Heh, yeah, a 'Murican Bond is about as silly as trying to modernize the character to be this more-socially-acceptable/representative-of-modern-Britain guy everyone's calling for now, showing they plain don't get the character. Glad ol' Cubby restrained himself from going with an American, keep it to the Commonwealth I say (Australia's just UK South anyway *dives for cover* ).

But yeah, we're straying. So, Anakin in The Rise Of Skywalker. Totally talking in a Sean Connery voice, or not. "You don't know the powaahh of the daahk shhhhiiiiiide."

 

I agree. As confident as I am that Hayden Christensen will not be appearing in this film, I also believe the role of Anakin will undoubtedly have a presence. Starting in the mid-nineties up until 2012, the Star Wars Saga was said to be "The Story of Anakin Skywalker." That's how George Lucas and Lucasfilm marketed the Saga. Now, its clearly debatable whether the Saga was originally to be the story of Anakin, or if the six-episode Saga actually "worked" as a cohesive narrative of the character. Nevertheless, for a good part of the Saga's history, it was said to be "about" Anakin. It would be very weird to go from the Saga being "The story of Anakin" to a Saga where he has no presence for the third act. All indications seem to be that the Saga is actually bigger than just the story of Anakin, but it would be weird to exclude the character from the final act.

 

What makes you so sure Hayden won't have a role?

Imo it would be classy of JJ to really mend the gap between the saga films and give him some presence in the story.

 

Some of the worst wigs...


One of the best...



They've already done an amazing job with BDW hair, whether that's a wig or extensions, can't see why they couldn't do a great job with HC.

Adam West turned it down after he was on a short list of one, he was supposed to have said Bond can only be played by someone British, Connery was in contention with Richard Burton for Bond originally. William Holden was supposed to have been considered too for Dr No, Holden might have gotten it again for On Her Majesty's Secret Service but was considered to old then by Cubby Broccoli.

Alas I digress...

 

Honestly, they did a great job with HC's ROTS hair. I didn't even know it was extensions until someone told 11 years after the film came out.

 

Oh wait, Hayden is a Canadian. Duh! As was a Man Called Intrepid. So maybe.

But back to IX, this Saga will be incomplete without Hayden.


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I wouldn't go as far as to say it is "about" Anakin, as Star Wars is not like a superhero movie- there was never a dominant star, it was always more egalitarian.

But in the overall saga, there is no question that Anakin is the character that took up the most space; the premiere character. He was the main protagonist in the PT and the main antagonist of the OT. He is the role model, grandson, and hero of the main antagonist in the ST. Anakin/Vader is easily the most iconic character in Star Wars, the most prominent in pop culture; probably the all-time greatest villain.

Yeah, it would be especially weird to exclude him from the third act given JJ's emphasis on tying the saga together- you don't do that without Anakin being a part of it in some way.

 

New Book coming out: Look at whos displayed as Force Ghost alongside Yoda and Obi-Wan. Curious. Could be a hint!

 

I am going to question the accuracy of this, and go find my DVD in storage. I remember all of this, but I recall him actually having long hair and getting it cut. Hair grows 6 inches a year on average, and some people grow it faster than that; he could have grown that in a year. Any official confirmation on this?

 

Disagree. The movie is better than the original.


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And yet, the sith are still around in TROS. That 'lineage' was destroyed, but not the Sith.

We've heard Palpatine laughing. Mizzlewump Leak:

Ruin (Ren) predated Darth Bane, then. Again:

That's Anakin. But, how? He's dead.

What about this:

-Ren, cloaked as 'Vader', reveals itself to 9-10 yo Ben.
-Anakin 'bridges' Leia and Ben's Ren-related 'corruption'.
-Leia's body 'rises' to meet it.
-Leia doesnt understand. Not Han's. She talks to Luke.
-Luke goes away, endangering Snoke's design
-Snoke approaches Ben
-Leia, while still pregnant, 'realizes' about Ben and Snoke.
-Rey is born and sent away.

This would have happened the same year, during and around Leia's second pregnancy.

Leia and Luke saw the 'result': Rey, but didnt know about the why, Ren/Vader. Leia's 'in the shadows, from the beginning' was her conflating Ren/Vader and Snoke. She knew something was wrong with Ben -and Snoke remembers in the TLJ novel how he exploited Ben's feelins of inadequacy and abandonment, as if those feelings were already there when he first met the boy. 'When I found you/the potential of your bloodline/a new Vader'.

For Ben, 'Ren' and Snoke were different 'people'. Only, he thought Ren to be his grandafther. He talks to both in TFA.

Ren, cloaked as 'Vader'. Victoria Mahoney's moodboard in her Star Wars IX offices at Pinewood in London:



Luke 'endangering Snoke's design' is how Snoke himself remembered it in the novel.

Apparently, Snoke was alright with Luke being around, as long as he didnt 'move'. At some point, Luke went away searching for the 'larger truths' behind the jedi faith, according to Snoke.

Ironically, Snoke's designs were already being endangered, but not by Luke. 'Skywalker, I assumed, wrongly'. Not wrongly.

Anyway, what 'larger truths'? The fact is that before Leia trusted Ben to him, Luke was already familiar with the chosen one idea. Hamill mentioned it in interviews, and Kylo remembers it on Crait (TLJ novel).

There's also this bit in the TLJ novel. Poe remembers Luke 'vanishing':

'By the time Poe was an adolescent'. Poe was 13 yo when Rey was born.

Before Snoke arrived, Ren revealed itself to Ben, cloaked as 'Vader'. Sneaky -but Anakin was there too and was also 'sneaky'. The sith were now, better late than never, his speciality.

As for Leia realizing about Ben and Snoke, maybe this was Anakin again, this time bridging Rey, who would be born shortly after, and Ben. I wonder if Yoda told Anakin about Snoke:

https://boards.theforce.net/threads...e-and-palpatine.50051931/page-3#post-55935466

 

To me having Anakin's involvement in Ep9 would save the ST. But I have absolutely no faith it will happen. Its 0.00000000000000000000000000000000%. Anakin may be mentioned, but HC or anyone else playing Anakin wont be in it.

 

I have faith it could happen. i just don't have faith it will be in the way people are expecting.

 

https://www.inverse.com/article/58504-rise-of-skywalker-spoilers-anakin-force-ghost-luke-skywalker

This proves it... he will be in TROS for sure, 100%!!!!!

No, not really. But this is a very interesting twist in canon. Obi Wan was talking to pop for 2 decades at least after ROTJ?

With this, I am moving my prediction of some sort of reference to Anakin to 80-90%. Hayden actually appearing is still hovering between 30-40% however.

 

It certainly makes sense and I'm not crapping on it at all, but that does seem like them trying to write themselves out of "why weren't the ghosts in the first two ST movies", and then setting up their return in TROS.

 

Oh that is interesting, I really wish we get some content that is explaining that period with more details.
As for Hayden, he is going to a lot of conventions now, next one is Salt Lake City I think.