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[HCSF] Revenge of the Sith--officially PG-13???

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by BauconBatista, Apr 9, 2005.

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  1. Darth_Zoo

    Darth_Zoo Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought it would still be PG. Hmm very interesting.

    I do think ESB might have been PG-13 material due to the torture scenes (yikes that freaked me out as a kid haha).

    AotC's has been the most violent though so far. Jango's death was a bit much especially the head flying out of the helmet!
     
  2. PatttyB0123

    PatttyB0123 Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    PG-13 because is going to be a dark movie. :(
    Too sad.
     
  3. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    mrfootball: Actually George Lucas was right when he speculated about it in an interview a few months ago.

    I'm glad, nothing will be held back (as was the case with AOTC.)

    -Seldon
     
  4. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "I'm glad, nothing will be held back (as was the case with AOTC.)"

    I am glad as well, Seldon, and I agree with you statement - especially during the Tuskin slaughter scene, it was obvious that GL "held back."

    I can't believe the accusations of Lucas "selling out" in this thread. If anything, George was selling himself out with AOTC - censoring details of his story in order to achieve a PG rating.



    :cool: Mace Windy,
    too windy for spoilers!
     
  5. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    You guys all make great points, but if this is the case then why the sudden change?

    It's not. Did you see AotC? The MPAA gave that PG out of mercy I firmly believe. The story's gotten progressively darker.
    He didn't hold back with AotC. He took it as far as a mid-point between TPM and RotS needed to be. But to top AotC, you must imagine RotS get's pretty bad.

    ESB would still be PG. If AotC got PG, ESB would get PG easily. Torture has nothing on two kids holding remains of their dead parents. I think it'd be far more freaky for a kid seeing another kid watching his dad die.
    Plus, ESB has nothing on RotS in terms of PG-13. But keep in mind ESB doesn't deserve a 13 label.
     
  6. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think there's any selling out involved here at all - in fact, I'd agree with TWD that AOTC should have been the first PG-13 Star Wars movie (not as in it should have been more violent, but as it is), and probably only got PG because it was Star Wars. With ROTS, however, it seems like it's just a bit too far for the MPAA to relent.

    especially during the Tuskin slaughter scene, it was obvious that GL "held back."

    I disagree. I think the Tusken slaughter showed exactly what it needed to, and exactly what he wanted it to show. Anything more would have been just gratuitous. Compare with Leia's offscreen torture in ANH, Han's offscreen torture in ESB, Oola's offscreen being-eaten in ROTJ, etc. Lucas knows that what you don't show can often have more of an impact.
     
  7. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I agree with Windy here.
    To say Lucas didn't hold back in both prequels is to avoid all evidence. There is not a drop of blood in either of the prequels.

    The Tusken Slaughter wasn't much of a slaugher. It was more of an implied one. That scene was so critical to Anakin's development and it is tragic that Lucas didn't include more of it. The audience has to see it to fully comprhend just how far the boy has come and to speculate on how far he might go. That scene would be a perfect preview for the following film and allow the audience to really doubt whether or not Anakin will be a hero.

    I'm not complaining, but I am stating that Lucas has held back.

    -Seldon
     
  8. NorCalBirdz

    NorCalBirdz Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm actually sort of jealous of younger kids, because they will be able to watch the series chronologically for the first time, with all the surprises and drama intact. They'll always remember the story that way, while we "old folks" will always remember it the other way around.


    [face_praying] Padme naked, Padme naked, Padme naked [face_praying]

    Oh wait..she's pregnant.
     
  9. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Keep dreaming buddy.

    -Seldon
     
  10. stinrab

    stinrab Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What's the problem with her being pregnant? It'll mean she finally has boobs.

    But anyway, yes, yay PG13. Here in Australia, the equivalent rating is M15, which I'm sure ROTS will get. Indeed, the AOTC DVD actually got an M15 rating (despite the fact it was only rated PG in the theatres! Puzzling!).
     
  11. mrfootball

    mrfootball Jedi Youngling star 2

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    ESB pg13? it's no more suspenseful than national treasure and no more violent than star trek!
     
  12. obi_wan_kanathan

    obi_wan_kanathan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, the Star Trek movies have occasionally been PG-13. ;)
     
  13. Kesel

    Kesel Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Tusken Slaughter wasn't much of a slaugher. It was more of an implied one.

    But the implication came from the expression on Anakin's face as he confessed to Padme. That worked fine for me and showed how bad it really was. Now for ROTS I'd feel cheated if we didn't see The Duel or some jedi getting slaughted.
     
  14. DamonD

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    I'm fine with the way the Tusken slaughter was protrayed in AOTC, because it gives more weight to Anakin's confession, especially because he don't know that he merrily chopped up the women and kids as well as the warriors.

    This was always destined to be the darkest film of the Saga, as the one where almost all of the good guys die and those that do survive aren't exactly in a great position. It's gonna be weird to see a PG-13 for it, but as said AOTC was very borderline as it was (in fact, they had to remove the Jango headbutt on Obi-Wan to get it a PG rating here in the UK) and ESB could be fairly nasty in places such as Han's torture.

    Either which way, a PG-13 certainly ups the ante on this one, don't you think?
     
  15. Darth_Sailant

    Darth_Sailant Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "And I'm fairly sure that no rating has been announced here in the UK yet..."

    UCI would beg to differ.
    As I suggested previously jariten, UCI were wrong... ;)

    ROTS has now been officially rated 12A in the UK by the BBFC. Hurrah, speculation over! Here's what they say:

    "Contains moderate fantasy violence and scary scenes"... "This work was passed with no cuts made".

    Sounds great! :)
     
  16. stormcloud8

    stormcloud8 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What other kinds of movies get that 12A rating? Is it different than previous Star Wars ratings over there?
     
  17. Darth_Sailant

    Darth_Sailant Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Is it different than previous Star Wars ratings over there?
    Oh yes! The OT were all rated U (Universal), whilst Episodes I & II were PG (Parental Guidance).

    Here's how the BBFC describes the 12A classification:

    "No-one younger than 12 may see a '12A' film in a cinema unless accompanied by an adult. No-one younger than 12 may rent or buy a '12' rated video or DVD. Responsibility for allowing under-12s to view lies with the accompanying or supervising adult."
     
  18. jariten

    jariten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "As I suggested previously jariten, UCI were wrong..."

    doh! well, my bad. well actually it was UCI's fault, but I believed them. but this is great news isnt it? unlike AotC, NO CUTS!!!
     
  19. Darth_Sailant

    Darth_Sailant Jedi Youngling star 1

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    this is great news isnt it? unlike AotC, NO CUTS!!!
    Indeed, it is great news. :)
     
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