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Heroes (The TV show - NO UK SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by clonetrooper1, Aug 6, 2007.

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  1. Spike2002

    Spike2002 Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In 5 Years Later? Or just all the other episodes in the correct timeline?
     
  2. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    In Five Years Later. He tells Niki that it was him that caused the explosion.
     
  3. Spike2002

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    Hmmm. In that case I'm not sure. Logically he shouldn't survive the explosion.

    Then again the original exploding guy didn't die instantly when he had his numerous little explosions.
     
  4. Cobranaconda

    Cobranaconda Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    1) If Sylar was stabbed by future Hiro and healed that means he killed Claire and took her power. So why was she alive only to be killed again?

    She was alive because Peter saved her, in the past. Meaning that events in the past presumably changed so that Hiro didn't stab Sylar.

    2) If Peter can heal like Claire why does he have a scar?

    Sie's theory sounds best.

    3) If Peter was actually the exploding man and is still alive does that mean that the regeneration can occur even if the body is totally destroyed? If so, why does stabbing or blocking communication of the brain result in permanent death?

    Wait for Season Two, episodes 8 and 10. They explain better than I could without spoiling you.
     
  5. Spike2002

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    1) If Sylar was stabbed by future Hiro and healed that means he killed Claire and took her power. So why was she alive only to be killed again?

    She was alive because Peter saved her, in the past. Meaning that events in the past presumably changed so that Hiro didn't stab Sylar.


    Oh yeah, I forgot Claire was in 5 Years Later :p
     
  6. SithLordDarthRichie

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    It was the off-putting brunetter hair that made her hard to notice :p


    And that doesn't answer my question. Future Hiro said in his timeline he stabbed Sylar but Sylar healed, so that means he killed Claire. So why was Claire alive and in hiding if she'd been killed by Sylar before the bomb went off?


    Also, as Peter is essentially a power sponge and Claire is alive, he would naturally absorb her power, so his scar would heal.
    Otherwise how could he and Sylar have a huge fight at the end? If Peter couldn't heal then Sylar would be able to kill him in about 3 seconds, which clearly didn't happen at the end of 5 years later. It seemed like it was an endless fight between 2 beings who were unable to die.
     
  7. Cobranaconda

    Cobranaconda Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Meh, it's Heroes. Continuity isn't exactly its biggest strength :p
     
  8. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think there are many shows where continuety is their biggest strength.
     
  9. Mustafar_66

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  10. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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  11. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    That makes more sense.
    But, if Ted wasn't gonna die when he did a mass explosion then why is re afraid to do it?
     
  12. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How about the fact that he would kill people?
     
  13. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Well, he wasn't too bothered about that in the past, he kept threatening to do it.
     
  14. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He was desperate in those situations.

     
  15. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    It looks from the finale trailer that Sylar has got Ted's power, so presumably Ted will be killed.
    I'm hoping they don't kill off too many good characters.
     
  16. malkieD2

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    sorry, but felt the ending was a bit weak..... if it was a simple case of flying away then why didn't peter just fly away himself.........

    I'm off to watch the first episode of the next season to see what happens....

    ......slightly disappointed!
     
  17. Cobranaconda

    Cobranaconda Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The most common theory I've heard is that if one power is going overboard, the others won't work.

    But yeah, Heroes is developing a tendency for starting well, getting soft, getting better, then ending badly :p
     
  18. halibut

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    only slightly?

    I thought the ending was absolutely pathetic and is the reason I haven't wasted any time watching season 2.
     
  19. malkieD2

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    I was being gentle. I do agree it went no where, and provided no real suspense or payoff. The writers have great ability at character development, and building something up, but they needed a different sort of writer to deliver the finale.

    I've watched season 2 episode 1 now (although I have all 11 available episodes), and (for me) its started alright. I'm not going to post any thoughts of ideas in this thread (as they'd be spoilers), and I won't enter the season 2 thread just yet until I catch up with whats happened.......
     
  20. SithLordDarthRichie

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    Any idea if Season 2 will be finished or will the end be held up until the writing strike is resolved?


    I liked the ending, it had some great bits.
    Sylar was totally badass, the truck flipping scene was so Magneto-esque.
    Using a parking meter as a weapon was cool also.

    "Call me Noah" just made me laugh.

    I was glad that Ando didn't die, as I was really expecting him to. I didn't want to see remorseless Future Hiro.

    It certainly didn't go the way I expected and all the characters were well played.
    Nathan's sacrifice was unexpected, and may have been a bit more moving if he wasn't so wooden in delivering his lines.


    I liked Hiro saving the day, he's the best of the good guys.

    Peter was rubbish, he totally owned by Sylar. Shame really, with all the hype surrounding his sponge ability I was expecting a big fight with him and Sylar.

    Most of the questions were answered and the story ends pretty much tied up.

    I found Sylar's supposed escape a bit odd. If you get stabbed with a big sword and can't heal methinks you wouldn't be crawling away.
     
  21. halibut

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    We know he survives anyway because of the 5 Yrs Later episode (as the part where the timeline could have gone one way or the other was AFTER he was stabbed). Even if the cheerleader wasn't saved, he'd have survived so that was all pointless as well
     
  22. SithLordDarthRichie

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    5 years on showed a possible future if Sylar had got healing power, and so had been able to heal after Hiro stabbed him.
    This time around it was different, yet he still seemed to escape death without a healing power.



    Unless of course.....something dragged him down into the sewers [face_thinking]



    I am intrigued by the sound of this new villain though - "If I think of him, then he can see me"

    And what the heck has happened to the Haitian?
     
  23. halibut

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    I'll have to watch it again, but from what I remember the part where the cheerleader was saved was AFTER he was stabbed, so because he was alive in the future he wasn't killed by the stabbing either way.

    It was something like that. The way the final episode played when taken with all that had happened so far (and in that future episode) meant that Sylar would survive regardless of whether or not he got the healing power.
     
  24. SithLordDarthRichie

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    There's no Linderman around to heal him either.
     
  25. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've heard it said that because Sylar has absorbed so many abilities, including telekinesis, he's a bit more resiliant and harder to hurt than a normal person, but he doesn't have full on regeneration.

    As for season two Richie, we've reached the end of the second volume, "Generations", and we're not going to get volume three until the writers strike is done. Although the first episode of the next volume at least has been made because they're showing it at some film festival.

     
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