TV Discussion Homosexuality in Star Wars Television

I'll hate it if Ahsoka goes gay. Why do we need political correctness?

 

I somehow doubt Rebels will delve I to Ahsoka's love life anyhow.

 

Maybe Sabine is gay. One thing is for sure, I'd rather see Sabine/Hera than Sabine/Ezra. Not very interested in Kanan/Hera, that official couple seems incredibly dull.

 

I want to see Fulcrabine or Fulcrerabine. If they're going to do gay stuff they might as well do polyamory too to win maximum inclusion points.

 

What is this mythical "Political Correctness" you speak of?

Usually it's a buzzword to imply consideration for basic dignity is somehow a negative aspect when found in storytelling. By that reasoning, Lando is another example of political correctness. Same with the entirety of the clone army being portrayed by Temuera Morrison who is of Maori, Scot and Irish descent. What about female characters or the vast array of alien, droid and non-human characters? Star Wars is AWASH in diversity.

 

There aren't a whole lot of opportunities to do anything with the main cast.

Ezra has a thing for Sabine, it seems. Or is attracted to her anyway. Hera and Kanan seem to have mutual feelings implied.

That leaves Sabine and Zeb. Though Lando schmoozing up to Sabine effectively makes it so that she could be ruled out. Unless they establish characters as having a fluid sense of sexuality/are bisexual.

Honestly though, the two most interesting characters I think they could make homosexual are Zeb and/or Kallus. Both because they would break the feminine stereotype of homosexual men, but in Kallus' case, you could potentially have the whole "gay in Nazi Germany" thing going on. Though I don't think they'll go that direction with a kid's show, but even to show that he has a special male companion in his life that he keeps secret, or will go to extreme lengths to protect I think would make him a more interesting choice.

 

Sabine with ANYONE would be better than her and Ezra. His place in her heart is a little place called the Friendzone. In every sense I hope.

 

What. No one goes gay they are gay.

 

In a world with interspecies marriage I somehow doubt same sex couples would even be batted an eye.

 

This we have seen 4 interspecies couples in all of canon so far that I can recall so I think Gay marriage would be looked at the same way as Straight in the GFFA.

 

I'm actually all for having a male character be gay rather than a female. The problem is who do you pick?

 

With this are options are low for now unless someone turns out to be bi.

 

Agent Kallus

 

Lots of folks have mentioned Zeb. He would really make for a fascinating take on a gay character, what with his species on the brink of extinction. Definitely lots of story potential in that dilemma.

Wouldn't work. He's already in a committed relationship with those chops!

 

That I would not see happening on rebels because you know but anyway I could see it happening in a book.

 

I don't think a lot of real world issues would exist in a GFFA, like racism. In the real world, if we found out we weren't alone (and especially if we had regular contact from aliens of a variety of worlds), I think it would be a catalyst for whatever you'd call planet-wide nationalism. I.E. ethnic or national boundaries would begin to waver and there would be a growing sense of identity based on us all being from Earth, rather than from the US, China, England, Morocco, etc.

Yet there is an implied racism within at least the upper echelons of the Empire. Sabine said she attended the academy, didn't she? And there's Ezra's friend. Plus another non-white stormtrooper in The Force Awakens, and the clone troopers were all non-white. But among the officer ranks, everyone we've seen is white. The grunts seem to be diverse. And then there are women at least among the Imperial politicians, if not the military.

So I think under the Republic, things like racism and sexism wouldn't really be widespread, and that any kind of discrimination would probably be more along the lines of jingoism (e.g. Mandalorians) or species based chauvinism (e.g. Pantoran/Talz relations).

Under the Empire however, racism is implied. Lucas went to lengths to depict the Imperials as pretty uniformly white British males, while the Rebels were diverse. At least in the military. We do see women among the Empire's politicians and civic administrators. A franchise like Star Trek is way more talky about ethics, moral dilemmas, etc.

Star Wars is more visual based. The characters never sat around and discussed species based chauvinism or sexism or racism, but it was visually implied. I don't think we'll ever see the characters standing around and discussing homosexuality, racism, etc. But at the same time, sexuality itself is very mild in Star Wars. I mean what was the most sexual thing we ever saw in the films? Anakin waking up next to Padme with his shirt off? PG closed mouth kisses shared between fully clothed adults?

I mean any kind of homosexuality would probably at worst be an exchange of "I love you" between two people of the same sex, or mild kiss.

I mean, for the sake of argument let's say Kallus is gay and they decided to work that into an episode. I mean to visually depict that all you'd have to really do is create a plot where the Empire brings in some new character as part of some Imperial operation. Kallus and this character exchange glances in passing so that the point gets across that they know each other. Let's say Kallus keeps shifting uneasily and tries to protest this person's involvement in the operation. This character then confronts Kallus as to why the hell he'd raise a formal protest. Kallus says it's too dangerous, getting the point across that Kallus cares for this person. They have an discussion along the lines of Padme/Anakin like "nobody can know about us." Kallus gets overruled and this other person gets apprehended by the Rebels and suddenly Kallus isn't quite as bold as he usually is and instead wants to negotiate with the Rebels. Then let's say somewhere along the line Kallus' lover gets mortally wounded, they have an exchange as the guy lays dying where Kallus says he loves him, then when the Inquisitor or someone else shows up, Kallus has to become... callous... and act indifferent, abandoning the body of his lover.

I mean you make the badass character gay, which I think is more empowering than making gay males effeminate like Ray from Archer. You humanize Kallus. You make him experience tragedy while also strengthening his resolve to find and kill this Rebel cell because they killed someone he loved (though neither the Rebels nor the other Imperials would have known of this relationship). Then you kind of show that there is an added pressure from the Empire where Kallus has to bury his feelings and be cold hearted, efficient and professional, and cannot openly mourn the death.

I think Kallus' role as a career man under an intolerant regime would make him the most interesting choice for being homosexual, because it could actually figure into a certain tragedy for the character: where he is an Imperial patriot and siding with an intolerant regime that forced him to hide his relationship, and now hates the Rebels for the pain that they've caused him; whereas the Rebels are trying to bring down the regime that put that pressure on Kallus.

And again, it's not like the characters are going to be sitting around going "I think Kallus is gay." "Weird." "I find that hard to believe with the Empire's anti-homosexuality laws." It would all just be shown or conveyed through a handful of lines and character interaction, not exposition.

 

Well if you ask me...

Spoiler

I think Kallus was enjoying torturing Kanan a bit too much.

 

50 Shades of Kallus

 

Noice.

 

Red Room standing by...

 

Whatever. Point is, we don't need homosexuals in this series.

 

We don't need straight people like Ezra in this series, right?

 

I'm somewhat disappointed that haven't seen a prominent LGBT character in Star Wars, EU or otherwise. It creates a distance and disconnect from the real world. Sometimes, it happens in nature, or people choose it. It's real fo sho.

 

With that logic, that means we shouldn't have any heterosexual relationships either.