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How come R2-D2 didn't recognize Yoda on Dagobah?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by TheLaw, Apr 19, 2005.

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  1. Gortz

    Gortz Jedi Youngling

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    "He obviously recognzied him, just pay attention to the dialog:

    Yoda: Yoda! You seek Yoda!
    Luke: You know him?
    Artoo: Beep-beep boop whirl be-beep!

    You can't get much clearer than that. "


    Beep-beep boop whirl be-beep!?

    I'll have the salamon please susan?

    doesnt make sense..

    R2 u crazy droid you..

    :)
     
  2. KennyT

    KennyT Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Someone asked how the droids did not recognize tatooine... yet in ANH C3PO clearly says "I am not even sure which planet we are on" and Luke never tells him the name of the planet. Also it seemed to me that R2D2 knew where to find Obi-Wan, he just got attackedby Jawas and then stopped by Luke before he could get there. R2 seems to know too much to have his memory erased.

    In the EU however, they explain it is standard procedure to erase a droids memory between owners. Even Uncle Owen suggested it, and it did not seem a strange request to Luke. And besides if the Droids end up knowing about the twins (and I am not sure they do, this is not meant to be a spoiler, it's just speculation) then they may have their memories erased to keep the truth from ever getting out to the Empire that Vader has children and where they are.
     
  3. DarkJedi76

    DarkJedi76 Jedi Youngling

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    I dont know about C3Po - but R2 does know. When he was seeking OB1 for the message - knew exactly where to find him.

    Also this is my opinion but look at a few things in the movie:

    When the Jawa's sell C3po and R2 to Lukes parents, C3po tells luke later on that he doesn't understand the astro-droids logic.

    In Return of the Jedi, R2 refuses to play the message for Jabba to anyone but Jabba and C3po has no idea whats going on. It seems to me that R2 is not one to have conversatons and sticks directly with it programming instructions.

    In Epsiode II R2 pushed C3po off the ledge i nthe droid factory to turn off the assembly line - the droid seems to have zero regard for anything other than what it is programmed to do. It doesnt give a reason for its logic it just does it.

    Look at Empire strikes back when R2 turn onthe hyperdrive - he mentions it to c3po who ignores him, and r2 simply turns it on without telling anyone, without telling chewy who is trying to fix the falcon and smashed a tool against the innards of the ship.

    When r2 meets Ob1 - ob1 says "I dont recall ever owning any droids". He had R4 in the previous movies,(however there are scenes when they are together) but even more so - astro-droids are nothing more than the equivalent of desktop computers today, its not something you would remember 20 years later, and its not like r2D2 followed Ob1 around in the new movies, and no where do we see Ob1 communicating with the droid - so it is unlikely he would remember.
     
  4. WLDB

    WLDB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Assuming R2 did recognize Yoda, how would we know?
     
  5. CBright7831

    CBright7831 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Careful now and don't give Episode III spoilers. The mods will ban you for a day. I gave away the C-3PO ROTS spoiler (you know, the one that George gives away in the freaking AOTC commentary?) and I got banned for a day and a half.
     
  6. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Riiiise.
     
  7. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Artoo never met him in the prior movies, but he DID meet him in Clone Wars.


    Did this happen in the Clone Wars cartoons?


     
  8. all_2_easy

    all_2_easy Jedi Master star 1

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    http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=2006 he was too full of nicotine to recognize anything.....:p
     
  9. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    You guys don't get artoo. he's a wise guy. he has a personality and likes to play with people. haven't U noticed? he likes to lie and at one time he tried to kill 3po. he is a little bugger who gets away with alot of things..yes, artoo had heard about yoda but he never has met him..

    also you have to remember that droids memories are not the same as humans. they are computers and their memory is different..they could suddenly, crash and forget some things..also artoo does not see everything in colors..he see's things like a hologram..with his red eye, most likely he see's everything in red, like vader does. so even if he saw yoda it's possible he looked very different from his visual point of view.

    hope that helps.
     
  10. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The answer is very simple. Who says he doesn't recognize Yoda? He seems like a pretty wise little thing to me. Perhaps he felt it wiser to simple wait and let Yoda's motives be revealed. It was not important for Luke to know in that moment that Artoo might have known Yoda.
     
  11. Darth_Laudrup

    Darth_Laudrup Jedi Master star 4

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    R2 just enjoyed watching Lukes confusion. He knew Yoda was going to tell Luke all Luke needed to know.


    R2 had it all under control.
    Palpatine thought things were proceeding according to his plan, when in fact everything was proceeding according to R2's plan.
     
  12. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Exactly. R2 see's the big picture. That's why he didn't get a memory wipe.
     
  13. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yep. Whats the point of R2 telling Luke about every person hes met ? It would get very boring after a while and Luke would have switch him off.
     
  14. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Although Yoda may never have met R2, it is a pretty safe assumption that he at least saw a holographic message of him or would have come across an image or other likeness of him

    It is possible that R2's memory was affected when he was damaged during the attack on the Death Star.

    It is also possible that R2 immediately recognized that Yoda did not identify himself, and R2 knew that it was not his role to beep and whistle to alert Luke that he was making an A** of himself.
     
  15. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    A bigger question is, why didnt R2 tell Luke that hes been at the Lars homestead before ?


    R2: (translated from the beeps) Hey Luke, I know this place, Ive been here before. This is like deja vu. Luke, your Granny is buried right over there. Forgive me that I didnt immediately recognize Owen and Beru. Man, have they aged. :oops:
     
  16. WhiskeyGold

    WhiskeyGold Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why would R2 say he knows Yoda? What do you want,R2 to say "What's up Yoda!" He isn't a person. AS for 3P0 we know his memory was gone and also, would you tell 3P0 anything that you didn't want to get out? He would tell anyone that asked if it got him out of trouble. That is why he didn't know the plans for the Han rescue in Jedi. He tought Chewbacca was already at Jabba's before he got there. He had no idea that Luke was going to give him and R2 to Jedi.

    As for R2, why would he tell Luke he had been there? R2 isn't one to give information without being asked, even more so during war time. R2 knows its not his place to tell Luke of his past. His job was to find Obi-wan. That was it.

    Did R2 know Obi-wan when he saw him? Well he does look different, older. However Obi-wan called him a friend didn't he?

    Also, not sure, was R2 in the room when Luke's name is giving at the end of Sith? Did he know the name of the Sywalker sun?

    To many all this stuff between the PT and OT can be cleared up easly. All but the Liea knowing her mom thing.
     
  17. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Or, he did.
    You, me, Luke, we have no way of knowing what R2 says without the translator thing in the X-Wing.

    Apparently Han speaks droid, but Luke doesn't. R2 could have been rambling on about Yoda since the second they met. He could have been spouting the formula for Luke to achieve complete master over the Force for all he knows.



     
  18. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Also, not sure, was R2 in the room when Luke's name is giving at the end of Sith? Did he know the name of the Sywalker sun?


    His reflection is in the glass at that time, which makes it interesting.

    Apparently Han speaks droid, but Luke doesn't. R2 could have been rambling on about Yoda since the second they met. He could have been spouting the formula for Luke to achieve complete master over the Force for all he knows.


    I always assumed Luke learned droid after ANH. At least he implies he did.
     
  19. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    why does Han speak Droid?


    and I always thought with R2 it's merely good interpretation (same as we do, actually) and never literal understanding.
     
  20. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    If Luke doesnt understand R2 after ANH, the scenes with him talking and answering to R2 seem crazy. It would put a whole new spin on the movies, as it would show Luke as being completely delusional. :p
     
  21. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "If you mean coming here was a bad idea, I'm starting to agree with you."

    He doesn't know if R2 actually said that. Without the computer he's guessing.
     
  22. EBSaints

    EBSaints Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    R2 just beeps. Who knows what he was saying when Yoda appeared.
     
  23. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Something I kinda wonder too.

    I'm guessing in 20 years under wedge's guard, he'd have his memory wiped at sometime. It becomes standard procedure for memory whipe when enrolled into a service.

    Or theres always the thought that maybe a power circuit overloaded or his programming crashed.


    Unless droids suffer from long term memory loss also.
     
  24. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Unless droids suffer from long term memory loss also.

    Or incredibly silly judgement. :p The wiki says he did it "protect" Luke.

    "In 35 ABY, when Luke was fixing R2, the Jedi encountered a recording of his father and mother discussing a dream of Anakin's, in which his mother had died in childbirth, and another recording of Padmé talking to Obi-Wan Kenobi about Anakin. The recordings, however, were apparently encoded (probably by Alderaanian technicians). R2 himself refused to show Luke or Leia the recordings and insisted he was trying to protect them. The only way to remove the recordings safely was to either find the original designers of the unit, a prototype, or erase R2's memory (an idea only C-3PO seemed to take seriously). Because the recordings hadn't been removed, R2 began to malfunction. By 36 ABY, a year after the first recording was shown, R2 seemed to be functioning again, though he remained unwilling to show the recordings. It wasn't until the Swarm War, when Luke needed to see it to help him in his fight against Lomi Plo, that R2 finally revealed Padmé's death to Luke, as well as his and Leia's birth.

    R2 would continue to travel with Luke while he tried to rebuild the Jedi Order, and still belonged to him as of 40 ABY. "

     
  25. Knightstorme

    Knightstorme Jedi Master star 3

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    R2 and Yoda met on Polis Massa during the birth of the twins...
     
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