ST How could Luke's blue lightsaber be in TFA?

perhaps the ducts of the cloud city only active in heavy objects. when Luke fell in tubes took to behave open. maybe some light object as the gate lightsaber would not open, and after a while some cleaner must have found this saber. what do you think?

 

Anyone remember that rumour that circulated with the intro of the movie?

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-wars-force-mcquarrieous

Spoiler

“Imagine the standard Star Wars crawl, and when it ends the camera pans up to the stars. But instead of a spaceship zooming into frame we see... a hand! A severed hand, tumbling through space. A severed hand gripping a light saber.
“That hand falls onto a desert planet, where it is discovered by characters who will be our heroes. One is Daisy Ridley. The other is John Boyega, who is playing someone trying to change his path in life (again, I'm keeping it vague here). They recognize the light saber as a Jedi relic and decide to return it to the proper people.

Now this rumour is making more sense than ever to me.

Boyega and Ridley both on the desert planet + relic lightsaber hand, being luke's.

 

Well, i found the lightsaber. And it seems that Lando was cloning the heck out of Cloud City

 

The rumor about the hand tumbling through space is one that makes it harder for me to believe the stuff about the light saber. If it stayed within the structure of cloud city - even if it was in some obscure pipe or something - I have an easier time accepting that it re-renters circulation 30 years later.

With that being said, I do like the idea that the new characters discover the same light saber that called Luke on his quest in the OT.

 

Ben also told Luke that his father was killed by Darth Vader. If he nose grew every time he lied to Luke that day his nose would of been longer than Pinocchio

 

I think Max Von Syndow's character used to be a maintenance worker at cloud city.

He stumbled upon Luke's saber (and hand) and ended up keeping the saber because.....you know.........its cool.

Then he ended up losing it.

 

I agree it isn't the best concept in the world, yet we've this rumour, how much of it is true, can be discussed until the movie airs. Yet, we've it, and it fits very well with what we've seen in the teaser and heard at the end, with the exclusive reveal confirming it is Luke's first lightsaber.

Anyhow, lets assume it is the will of the force that it magically tumbles out of the mining colony's cloud city, then swung about and travelled through space for 30 years, it wouldn't get very far, unless it was picked up by someone who thought a lightsaber was cool, but couldn't get Luke's hand off

Aye, it doesn't work very well when you try & explain it >.<

Back to square one, how did it indeed gets recovered...

 

It has to be something from the weather vane or from Luke. If you watch the scene you can see that the door above the weather vane opens right after the door that Luke is on opens, and nothing falls out of the door...

 

The custodial custodian eh?

How about this: an impressionable young force sensitive Bespinian witnessed Lando fighting the Empire. He hid in the tubes and came upon Luke's severed hand and lightsaber. This kid grew up playing at Jedi games and eventually lost his hand and the saber for his troubles. Where he wound up, no one knows.

Or the travelling sword mcguffin is hooey.

 

Without me revisiting the end of ESB, is the tube that Luke falls into the only place anything could have gone? My recollection is that it was a path/duct/whatever that was adjacent to a main shaft, and that Luke sort of leaned himself into it rather than fall straight down.

If the light saber landed on the bottom of the shaft, maybe where the giant circulation mechanism was located, and then Lobot or another character in cloud city finds it while trying to locate a jam in the mechanism, I wouldn't really have a problem suspending my disbelief.

But if we're asked to accept that this thing fell off of cloud city, escaped the gravity of Bespin, drifted into space, and ended up in the orbit of another planet (or a moon of Bespin), I don't know if I'll buy it. And I really don't want TFA to begin by asking us to accept such a farfetched chain of events.

 

It is just a random piece of debris. At best, a piece of cloth fabric torn from Luke's fatigues. You're absolutely correct.







The last look we (currently) have at Anakin/Luke's blue-bladed lightsaber is here:



Now, do I personally think that opening the film with a floating hand/lightsaber is the greatest or most inspired idea I've ever heard? Not necessarily, no.

But from what we saw in TESB, we don't know if the hand/saber was ejected in a manner similar to what Luke would endure a minute or two later, or if the weapon landed instead at the end of whatever lay at the bottom of the inside of Cloud City. We simply don't know.

Given that, it's entirely possible that the hand and saber could have been recovered.

 

im sure there were ancient chinese pottery makers that thought a bowl they made would never randomly show up thousands of years later and end up in a museum on the other side of the planet... im sure they can come up with an excuse to have lukes lightsaber reappear. there has been further leaps of logic within the star wars universe.

but i will say that it tumbling through space and traveling the distance from bespin to tattoine in 30 years AND with the impossibly low odds of it randomly flying to the exact galatic coordinates of tattoine would be a little hard to explain.

 

I am preety sure that it is the Bespin Saber that everyone is looking for. It being Vader's personal saber has a far higher significance for the Sith artifact hunter than Luke's new one. My theory would be that either the Empire retrieved it or it went on the black market via the Ugnaughts. You have not realized that we already have proof that it if it is indeed a saber that belonged to Luke, it is his blue one:

 

There's other concept art, that wasn't posted anywhere, that shows the saber looking like Qui-Gon's from Ep1. Does that mean Qui-Gon's saber is in Episode VII? NO, the artists were just using different sabers as placeholders.

 

Well I googled it, and came across on old discussion where it was suggested that the shape of the debris is suggestive of hand/lightsaber, so perhaps the filmmakers did intend to put that idea across. Who knows. Certainly the image is not definitive enough for even hardcore fans to raise a rucus if the saber makes a reappearance.

I do think it is an object with too much history and significance to simply be lost forever.

I don't think it's a bad idea, depending on the nature of the new trilogy That could be a pretty memorable image. Obviously there's nothing as iconic or symbolic of Star Wars than a lightsaber, and that's THE lightsaber every kid fell in love with first.

And how could one ever outshine or compete with the legendary opening scene of A New Hope, with the enormous Star Destroyer in space? Maybe juxtapose it with a shot of something very small in space, but much more important storywise.

Here's something I mentioned in another thread:

If that happens to be a good guess, and the original blue saber is a serious macguffin, then it's not a bad choice for an opening scene at all.

 

I have the 5th draft of Empire Strikes Back PDF from Feb 20th 1979. Written by Brackett and Kasdan. It is online somewhere.

Sorry I cannot link to the description from page 150 of this script but it is when Luke lands on weather vane...

EXT. BOTTOM OF CLOUD CITY - NEAR EXHAUST PIPE

There is an ominous CRACKING sound from the base of the weather vane and a piece falls off, falling into the clouds far below. A rush of
air is constantly blowing at Luke from the pipe.
--------'----------------'

 

I'm wondering what the point of the whole, force artifact collection, will be, other than pointing to Luke for people to track down.

 

Yeah, I definitely don't want the movie to open up with the floating hand/saber thing. But having the saber they're looking for being Luke's first saber? I'm not opposed to that. It'd take a lot of coincidence to get it from Cloud City to a desert planet, but stranger things have happened. Some scavenger could have found it in the lowest depths of Cloud City and sold it or thrown it away, not knowing what it was. It gets dumped from scavenger to scavenger until it arrives on the desert planet. Like I said, huge coincidences all around, but weirder (and worse written) things have happened.

 

Wait... people are actually thinking that the hand that, as the rumors say, falls to Tatooine is the one from Bespin? Really?

No. Just, no.

 

FATE DOES WOT FATE WANTS!

 

I see another big problem, Luke lost the blue one on Bespin, in ROTJ he has the green one and for sure kept that later. So according some latest rumours Han is worried what happened with Luke after seeing the blue one???

 

Another thing that points to the Bespin saber is that at the time the hand rumor first came up it was thought that Luke was incarcerated for decades and not just in self-imposed exile. So him losing a hand (again) would have made more sense then than now. I think that the saber being Anakin's is the key. The grave robber adores Vader (the helmet at least) the saber would be a worthy artifact...

nightangel Han could be worried that if the Empire slaughters a whole village for Luke's old saber they might also be on the hunt for Luke himself...

 

Finding this light sabre was the will of the Force. I have no doubt of that.

 

ok, this could be indeed true.

 

Comparison of the concept art saber and a pic of Luke's from an official source (Star Wars Behind the Magic), it looks to me they are similar, but not the same. There is no indentation on Lukes saber like there is on the concept art saber.