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How did Anakin bring balance to the Force

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Master_Andres, Apr 10, 2005.

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  1. Master_Andres

    Master_Andres Jedi Youngling

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    This may just be me, but I've never heard anyone speak anything of Anakin actually bringing balance to the force. It is commonly agreed that he was the fulfilment of the prophecy. If this is correct, than no matter what path Anakin took, he would carry out the prophecy. What I'm analyzing in the situation is that Anakin wiped out the Jedi in ROTS, and then killed the Sith in ROTJ. Would this be the fulfilment of bringing balance to the force? Share what you think.
     
  2. Plurimus

    Plurimus Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The answer to the question is explained in ROTS. So it would be an official spoiler. It's "officially" explained by LFL because the book is now out. I'd check in the spoiler forum.
     
  3. CieSharp

    CieSharp Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    How did Anakin bring balance to the Force

    He threw Darth Sidious down a reactor shaft. :p
     
  4. Darth_Ben73

    Darth_Ben73 Jedi Youngling

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    He killed Palpatine.

    He wiped ou the sith by doing it.
     
  5. AlrikFassbauer

    AlrikFassbauer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    And at the same time redeemed himself.
     
  6. Master_Andres

    Master_Andres Jedi Youngling

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    I know he destroyed the sith, but then the lack of evil brings inbalance to the force because there is no dark to balance the light.
     
  7. Obladi_Oblada

    Obladi_Oblada Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The presence of evil is why the Force is out of balance in the first place. Anakin is the one who conquers the Dark Side and destroys the last of the Sith. It's not a matter of equal numbers of Jedi and Sith. I like to think of it more as balance or harmony as opposed to chaos, which is created by the Sith.
     
  8. Hatter

    Hatter Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, "balance" doesn't necessarily have to be a good thing...

    I think it's a nice, morbid touch that he "brings balance to the Force" by facilitating the near-total extermination of the Jedi, so that there's just a couple of Jedi and a couple of Sith left in the galaxy. Seems pretty balanced.
    Heh, not quite what the Jedi Council expected, eh?
     
  9. Obladi_Oblada

    Obladi_Oblada Jedi Youngling star 2

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    "there's just a couple of Jedi and a couple of Sith left in the galaxy."

    Again, it's not about numbers. If it was then Anakin throws off the balance again when he kills Palpatine, and Lucas has said that's how he restores it. Balance vs. Chaos. Light vs. Dark.
     
  10. Master_Andres

    Master_Andres Jedi Youngling

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    great ideas guys. i think i understand that balance is equal to stability instead of physical numbers. thanks.
     
  11. Madcaplaughs

    Madcaplaughs Jedi Master

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    Did anyone ever consider that the 'balance' Lucas refers to is within oneself, meaning the force is brought into balance because Anaking was able to use both the dark and the light to fullfill his destiny, just as Luke does? Before, Jedi only use light, Sith only use dark. Both Anakin and Luke are the only one to use both, and they save the galaxy.
     
  12. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    By saving Luke from certain death and by tossing Uncle Palpy down the shaft!!! That's how.
     
  13. t16bushpilot

    t16bushpilot Jedi Master

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    Master_Andres, I'll admit I thought this was an pretty straightfoward question with an obvious answer...
    but I don't know whether to thank you for getting me thinking or ask for a headache aspirin! :confused:

    How come on the Light Side of the Force, there's a "Liivng Force" and a "Unifying Force"?

    Did that have something to do with the need to bring balance to the Force?

    If so, does that affect the meaning of "bring balance to the Force"?

    HELP!! 8-}
     
  14. da_muzzy

    da_muzzy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In reply to the starting post: I thought that by becoming Darth Vader and turning to the dark side, he is balancing the force. There was more light side, so by helping the sith, he balanced by bringing more dark in. Whats going on?
     
  15. t16bushpilot

    t16bushpilot Jedi Master

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    da_muzzy, think about it... if that's logic, then didn't the dark side balance itself out?

    Always two there are... no more no less... a master and an apprentice

    So it's necessary to clear up WHAT "bringing balance to the Force" means before you can answer HOW did Anakin "bring balance to the Force".

    I'm backlogged on my reading so, I'm hoping someone with some in depth on the SW universe can clear that up for me.

    Is it clearing the secularism (if there are actually two schools - Living /Unifying) on the Light Side?
     
  16. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    He brought balance to the Force by killing Palpatine. :)
     
  17. michaelbacca

    michaelbacca Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I had always looked at is as Anakin eliminating most of the light side and having an equal balance between both light and dark. The balance is ended when Vader kills Palpatine and subsequently dies since there is once again an unequal balance.
     
  18. steverodgers801

    steverodgers801 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    my idea is in a previous thread on the force and how the force reflects the populace also. by the end of the movie most people are tired of the empire and would like a return to the old ways and so palpatine is losing his connection to the force much as he gained power when the republic was falling and turning to evil
     
  19. DarthSithLord

    DarthSithLord Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin killed the Sith Order thats how, He Killed Darth Vader & Darth Sidious. with the help of his son Luke.
     
  20. revanslostaprentice

    revanslostaprentice Jedi Youngling

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    he made it to where their were only
    2 jedi and 2 sith
    then he killed obi-won and luke took his place
    then yoda dies
    then he kills darth sidious
    then he dies
    one jedi left
     
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    revanslostaprentice Jedi Youngling

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  22. DarthSithLord

    DarthSithLord Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin brought Balance to the Force by killing off the Sith.


    First he killed Darth Vader (Himself); then he moved on to kill Darth Sidious, therefore, since there can be only two Sith at a time, He killed them off.


    Leaving the Jedi to win the day. fullfilling the prophecy. The End.
     
  23. severian28

    severian28 Jedi Master star 5

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    He brings balance to the force by death. His death early in life would have left Sidious exposed and alone and his sacrifice at the end of RotJ eliminates the two remaining Sith - himself and Sidious. Christianity metaphors are being discussed in a nearby thread - saving the world ( or Galaxy in this case ) by self sacrifice is the most obvious one that I can think of.
     
  24. ObivonKenobi

    ObivonKenobi Jedi Youngling

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    Hello, my first post and I am very enthusiastic (I dont know why i waited so long to register). Anyway, remember in TPM when Windu replies to Qui Gon "You refer to the one who will bring balance to the Force?" Well, although the Force is not synonymous with the Jedi, it seems as if the Chosen One will be of assistance to the light side. I belive the inbalance is the result of the "clouding" caused by Sidious as he grows more and more powerful and closer to his "Revelation" to wipe out the Jedi. His presence in the Force (although he cannot be pinpointed) has resulted in the Jedis' decreasing connection with the Force. The Chosen One must balance the Force by destroying this dark presence. Anakin, the vergence in the Force, brought balance once he destroyed Sidious. The will of the Force disregards the Jedi as a whole; thus the extiction of the Jedi Order. I do believe that once Vader/Anakin tossed Palps down the hole, he balanced the Force, cased closed. His turning back to the light side was a 'happy ending,' so he would not go down in history as purely evil. Anyway, please respond as I am anxious to discuss the meaning of Star Wars till the end of time.


    21 Days and Counting!!!!!!!!
     
  25. DarkJedi12

    DarkJedi12 Jedi Youngling

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    In my opinion, by killing the Sith while still having at least one Jedi in the galaxy (Luke), is bringing balance to the Force.
     
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