how did jango beat 6 jedi

apparently in his comic, he does so?
i have not read the comic yet?
can someone give me the name

also without any form of super abilities, is'nt 6 jedi a stretch?
im sure with all his armour and all he can handle one maybe 2,3.
but with rocks and his bare hands 6?

 

For all their powers, Jedi are people too. Even with the Force, they can still be taken by surprise, or beat in a physical confrontation, etc. Even their ability to deflect blaster bolts isn't perfect - look at what happened to what's-his-name the Dinosaur Jedi Master in AOTC when he tried to attack Dooku and Jango shot him down.

Incidently, what's-his-name was on the Jedi Council of the final days of the Old Republic, and couldn't block the blaster bolts of one person. Luke Skywalker in the Hand of Thrawn duology has no such problems. There's a scene where a whole squad of Chiss is firing at him and he's able to block all their shots. Just felt like saying that.

 

Of course, I doubt very many people make direct attacks on Jedi Masters as a part of day-to-day life at the time of the PT, so Luke's probably got more practice deflecting.

-Paul

 

Not to mention that Coleman Trebor had no idea that Jango was there.

 

Jedi capabilities are no match for the powers of a movie script . . . and what fate must transpire.

In any case, it's obvious most Jedi of the prequel era are basic wimps. I was going to posta thread back that up when I had more time, but it can't be denied.

They're no match for Dark Jedi who fight viciously, sneakily, or indeed, just fight. Jedi Masters fall like Gizer-class ale against Sing, just because she suddenly uses a second saber stab into a chest. Or the way Hett was slain. Wow! Just chuck debris at the face of any reputable Jedi Master, and you'll surprise them enough to decap!

Stars alive, I won't even mention Durge in Blast Radius. Yep, just walk past a Jedi and throw him into magma below.

Most Jedi were wimps and useless of that time, and you can't argue the dark side was stronger. It's like they can't maintain situational awareness and fight anyone at all!

Then again, it all comes down to the book/comic/movie/ script plot, and individual author preference.

 

True it all comes down to the movie plot. If the Jedi have to die then need to look like they are wimps. I doubt that they were and maybe the ones that killed them are just that skilled. The Jedi aren't superheros and I like that they can die just like anyone else. Force or not, if someone trains themself to the max why shouldn't they be a match or maybe sometimes better then a Jedi. The Jedi aren't the end and be all. Why should they win all the time just because they happen to be Jedi. All the force does is enchance their ablities and give them a few new ones. Technology and extra training can be used to offset that advantage. Again these are comics were a lot of actions are missed to everything be stills. One panel we see a fight and in another panel we see them dead. I like to look at Obiwan and Quigon as how powerful the Jedi were against Sith. Quigon's death had more to do with being trapped in that area with Maul, he might have run and lived to fight another day or at least position Obiwan better so he could take him on.

Remember this is suppose to be about the fall of the Jedi. So its only natural you would see a lot of Jedi dying. Some in better ways then others. While Luke's part of the EU its about the Jedi being rebuilt so you can't have them dying in situations in which they should be dying in. You'll run out of Jedi so they have to make this crazy feats to stay alive and continue on the story. Due to this I don't believe the NJO is any better then the OJO. Both are victims of the plot of their stories lines. A better way to tell which was better would be to have both orders be at peace and the Jedi going on normal none war like missions where there isn't a need to rebuild the Jedi or talk about their drasitc fall. I wish people would remember the context of the stories before they go off and say which group of Jedi were better or were wimps. We just will never know since the situations are far from equal or fair.

 

" Of course, I doubt very many people make direct attacks on Jedi Masters as a part of day-to-day life at the time of the PT, so Luke's probably got more practice deflecting. "

I agree, Luke had to be worried about being attacked. In the time of the Old Republic all Jedi did was sit around and settle border disputes

 

Maybe Jedi Council members, but I would disagree that all Jedi are like that.

 

The Jedi in question might not have been all that experienced, which is why Jango got rid of them. But I disagree with the statement that Jedi who die need to look like wimps. They don't. I'm not saying they all need a blaze of glory death, but wimpy is unbecoming of a Jedi Knight.

But as for Jango, he's just that damned good. Read Shatterpoint to see how Mace got rid of him so easily -- and even Mace admits that Jango was one of the deadliest men in the galaxy.

 

true
but with bare hands and a bunch of rocks
are'nt 6 jedi a little tooo much for jango?

 

I can't get Shatterpoint! Someone tell me how Mace owned Jango! Pm if you must!

 

If what you're thinking about is Open Seasons, then you should know he only killed three Jedi with his fists. In fact, I don't think he ever kills a Jedi without his fists, other than what was in the movie, of course.

 

Uhh.... I'm not meaning to be thick here, but since he clearly brings two complete hands into AotC, just how could he kill a Jedi without his fists?

And I agree with tyderium, your normal Jedi Knights were probably seeing some action, based on what we've seen so far -- but not Coucil Members, I'd imagine.

-Paul

 

If you've got Open Seasons, it's in the winter section when the Jedi first get involved. One he catches from behind and smashes his skull in with his bare hands. The next one he just thwacks in the face. And the last one, the one who killed Myles, he strangles with a cord. I suppose it's possible he didn't kill the first two, but the third one is one dead duck. And as for the total number he has killed, I forgot to add Komari Vosa.

 

We see Andur Sunrider get killed in Tales of the Jedi because his attention is distracted. The one whose little pet kills Andur makes the comment, at least in the audio drama, that Jedi can be easily killed when they have too many things to pay attention to.

 

Which makes sense when you think about it, since to use the force, concentration is required. Obviously if you're caught off guard you won't have time to react or be very concentrated either.

 

Ohh, literally, with his fists! D'oh! My brain's a bit fried from exams, does it show?

-Paul

 

Nothing to do with jedi being wimps or anything like that. Main characters always kill many nameless characters with ease. Generally, the more anonymous, the easier the kill.

Although the post Rotj characters seem to have been Ubered" up to the max.

 

NeoStar9 I totally agree with you and have said similar things in other posts, it's all about story telling devices. I must admit I think it is rubbish the way whats his name was killed by Jango, it just seemed to be a lst minute thought thrown in there to make Jango semm more like a bad ass. Similar to the way the Obi-Wan vs Jango fight went. IMO Obi-Wan should have taken Jango out more easily he than he did, althougth you could argue that he did not deflect any blaster bolts back at Jango because he needed him alive, and then afterwards he was nearly hit by a rocket and blasters from a ship which would have hurt a lot. Althougth I still don't know why Obi-Wan just stood there....

I also agree the Jedi shouldn't be invincable but it would take someone extra special to match them without technology to help them, for me Jango was never shown to be anywhere near a jedi's level, not in the films anyway.

 

Then Lucas failed,

Jango fett wasn't Mace's level but he certainly was better than one councilman as well as many lesser Jedi.

 

While, maybe the Council members were rotated to avoid them getty flabby and all.

Jango was the best bounty hunter, afterall, good enought to be chosen as the original template for stormtroopers (clonetroopers).

Though the way Mace beheaded Jango was a bit anti-climatic.

 

with all theior hand to hand combat skills, jango tookmout 2 jedi with his fists bu surprising them?
maybe the first one but the other 2 caught by surprise as well.
sounds way too far fetched and seems to cater to the fett fans

 

You could argue that Lucas did fail in a way or just ran out of time in the movie. I don't have a problem with Jango being a match for lesser jedi but all he did in the films was fire his gun and have a small brawl with OBi-Wan, they didn't exactly try to show he was more than you run of the mill bounty hunter. From what we saw in the films the Mace Jango fight is how it should have gone.

 

I think one of the hardest fights to choreograph would be between a Jedi and a non-jedi. The problems arise when you have to make the non-jedi seem tough, but not make the Jedi look like a wuss. The Obi-Wan Jango fight in AoTC was handled brilliantly, mainly showing off just how good Jango really is. The Mac-Jango fight was also handled well, mainly showing off just how good Mace is.

 

Allow me my opinion of the Jango/Obi Wan fight

How do you know Jango is the best?

Answer: He fights Obi Wan Kenobi to a standstill and arguably beats him by escaping