Lit How did Krayt evade Luke's attention after FOTJ

Why would Krayt gloat? Given how much pride he took in revealing his backstory to Cade the question would be why wouldn't he?

Killing Luke Skywalker is a pretty massive feat-any Sith Lord that did that would every right to boast. Killing Luke Skywalker, I mean the gravity of it-both in a thematic and tonal sense and in an IU cosmic sense. It's equivalent to Palpatine's declaration of empire, or his killing of Plagueis-something that causes the stars themselves to shake.

Maybe I interpret this matter differently, but killing Luke Skywalker seems to me to be the sort of victory that would herald a new sith era, or the strengthening of the dark side to the point the light was nearly vanquished. Cosmically within the force itself, I think the very concept of killing Luke Skywalker should have consequences at that scale.

Krayt did and portrays nothing of that gravity, The Sith Lord who killed Luke Skywalker.

 

I thought of it as Krayt playing the long-game. After his Vong torture, he sets about building his One Sith from scratch basically. Luke's already ahead of him by several years, with some support from the New Republic, and is probably much more powerful. In the Legacy comic, it basically sounded like Krayt waited for Luke to die of old age and then he started moving. For the first half of Legacy Krayt did kind of think of himself as a well-intentioned extremist, not simply another wannabe galactic conqueror like a lot of other dark Jedi and Sith Luke has had to tangle with over the years. So taking pride out of the equation, waiting for the Jedi to lower their guard, and for Luke to die of old age, seems more logical. Even the Banite Sith waited centuries for their revenge.

FotJ's Krayt scenes were just really out of character and stupid. Trying to justify that kind of bad writing is more trouble than its worth.

Yeah, and that realization would probably last as long as some of Luke's other ideas, like the shift from TUF to DNT.

Legacy's background was written in kind of a broad-strokes manner. I know this sounds like a radical unpopular idea, but after living through (and winning) the Galactic Civil War and the Vong War, two of the worst wars in a galaxy that's has had centuries of peace, would it really be too much to just let Luke, Han and Leia die of old age in a peaceful era surrounded by friends and families?

I know the writers hated that idea since they went about killing off as much of the Skywalker-Solo families as they could. Much less the sequel trilogy too.

I know its Star Wars, but I wouldn't have minded Jaina and Ben just having adventures around the galaxy, helping out on a planetary scale rather than fate of the galaxy. Honestly with the Vong War once it was ok. It started getting repetitious with LotF and FotJ was just boring. Even without galactic wars there's always something for Jedi to do. Of course the stories focus on the big wars, but at least the Legacy comic was set decades after the Vong War to give the galaxy some breathing room. I mean, if you want to have a Jedi Purge (and every story must have one, it seems), you have to have some Jedi first, and Luke can only train them up so fast.

 

The best justification I can come up with is that Krayt recognized Abeloth needed his personal attention and assistance in defeating. Because nothing else makes any sense at all, except the obvious OOU reason of trying to market the novels, comics and show together.

What I would have done would be small scale character focused stories until say 2010 or so(in RL publishing years) and then do the next galactic crisis or war.

 

I dunno... Alema found the Sith on Korriban by walking up to some villagers and saying "Take me to the Sith." It didn't exactly require a doctorate in logic.

If Luke knew there were a mysterious darksider hiding out somewhere, I don't see why he wouldn't send a bunch of Jedi to the same planets he visited in Ascension to start making inquiries. One of them could literally do the same thing Alema did, and they'd be standing before White Eyes within five minutes.

The correct answer is, unfortunately, as Nobody said: writing Krayt into FOTJ was just mind-bogglingly stupid.

This this this this this. Even if Legacy hadn't existed, it would have been well past the point that the post-NJO needed to calm down and stop trying to make every crisis even more massive and galaxy-shaking than the last. Why not send the heroes into an uncharted region of space to have relatively low-key adventures there? The Unknown Regions sourcebook provided a lot of potential for a story like that.

Even going back to 2005: A break of a few (in-universe) years was definitely needed after The Unifying Force, but I wish it hadn't been six of them ---for one, we barely got to see the Solo twins' twenties, and honestly, the stuff that The Joiner King established they were doing over those six years would have made a really cool book with low-key, non-galaxy-shaking stakes. Jaina hunting down pirates, Jacen traveling from Force tribe to Force tribe, Tahiri helping rehabilitate the Vong... that could have been wonderful.

Giving the heroes smaller-scale, character-based stories would have been far preferable to shoehorning them into massive galaxy-spanning stories without actually figuring out anything for them to do (cough Leia Han and Jaina in FOTJ cough). Write a book about Han encountering his father. Or Leia becoming a Jedi Master. Because that was FOTJ's biggest problem (out of so, so, so many) --- starting to write the series without anything other than the barest-bones "Luke and Ben go on a quest" framework. They forgot to actually plan anything for 90% of their characters to do. That should have been the planning team's mindset --- "We have these characters; where can we take them next?" instead of "What can be the next big bad crisis??? Oh crap we're seven books in and Jaina doesn't have a story or character arc yet"

There's nothing wrong with lower stakes. That's what people miss when they bemoan Legacy supposedly limiting the novel planning team. Said team was in fact limited by nothing more than their own terrible planning and extreme lack of creativity.

 

The Jedi didn't have the Hidden Temple created until the Imperial-Sith War started, why wouldn't they have created a couple more in those 80 years if they were aware of Krayt during FOTJ?
Another Order 66 thing wouldn't be good.

 

Indeed, my suspicion is that the authors post NJO didn't know how to write character based or small scale stories. Or that the thought never occurred to them.

 

We could have gotten Blood Oath, a Boba Fett novel and the Kemp duology but nope.

 

Personally I think the Legacy comics overdid some things like by making the situation quite that dire. After the prequel era, you'd think the Jedi and GA would create a few extra hidden bases, just in case. The Legacy sourcebook said Stazi had one last mobile shipdock hidden somewhere but the comics hewed a bit too close to the OT structure. Well, also I don't think the comics wanted to use the Jedi or the GA at all originally, they just wanted to focus on the One Sith and wonderful glorious Imperial Knights (that was sarcasm just to be clear) and Cade. The Hidden Temple and GA Remnant were minor elements at best which just turned out to be popular (and even then were held back by the author's Clone Wars favoritism).

I know Del Rey started out big with the NJO saga, but their biggest mistake was probably trying to repeat their success with the NJO over and over again. Sadly they did have plenty of good standalone novels (Mindor, Plagueis, Knight Errant, Kenobi, off the top of my head), its just big plots that felt... unoriginal.

 

Maybe that was their misconception-they wanted to replicate the NJO and assumed that was what the fans wanted.

 

Luke says in Crucible that Evil must win sometimes, it's necessary, and he's ready to retire.


(Putting aside that insanity, it's a big galaxy, and Krayt didn't seem like an immediate threat.)

 

The Tuk'ata lied to preserve the legacy of the Sith

 

The unsung guard dogs of korriban, loyal to their sith masters.

 

Read HandofThrawn45 on fanfiction.net, particularly Sword of the Jedi trilogy in which they attempt to deal with such a thing.

 

I'll look into it.

 

Yeah I don't really think there's much basis for this question tbh. There was only one book written after FOTJ, there's no reason to assume that Krayt and the One Sith weren't hunted/researched or made a priority by Luke and the Jedi.

whoosh

 

I think there is quite a basis for this question. There is an eighty year gap and Krayt revealed that he was a different order of Sith to Luke explicitly. If hunting or investigating him was made a priority why wasn't he found in a span of 82 years where so far as we have been told there was no major galactic conflict to distract the attention of the Jedi

 

Given there were about 30 or so Sith during the LOTF timeframe by crucible that number shouldn't have risen too much.

Also no one knew exactly where Kesh was and Vestara refused to give the planet's exact coordinates and location. That's the only way the keshiri Sith survived as long as they did.

The Galaxy is big yes, but the Jedi at this point are fed up with dealing with dark siders, and many within the order would be pleased and outright demand that they hunt down Krayt and his followers.

 

Lots of reasons. I haven't read this whole thread but I'm sure people have put their explanations forward.

He's supposed to be really powerful and great at hiding right? Why would you assume that Luke & the Jedi could find him at all? And if they did find him that they could beat him? Maybe Luke did find him and was killed by Krayt.

 

Actually not many explanations have been put forward.

I have explained why I think that didn't happen and why it would extremely inappropriate for it to have happened.

 

I think it's worth repeating how easy it was for Alema to find them.

"Hey Korriban villagers. Are there Sith here?"

"No! I mean... yes."

"Take me to them."

"OK."

 

All the jedi have to do then, is go the local villagers and ask "are there sith here?" so why don't they?

 

Bad writing.

 

There are trillions of inhabitable planets and moons in the GFFA. Including in the Deep Core, Unknown Regions, and other hard-to-reach areas. We also had the Banite Sith existing for 1000 years in secrecy. And the Sith Empires for millennia before Naga Sadow and Vitiate revealed them.

Also, like I said, Luke retired and actually said he thinks the galaxy needs evil sometimes.

 

Well that's pretty easy to explain. You're basing everything here off one scene from a (probably) hastily written book by an author who was probably just off doing his own thing without much care about continuity.

A more suitable question would possibly be "why did Alema find the Sith so easily when Luke & the Jedi never could after FOTJ?" rather than assuming that Luke and the Jedi after FOTJ never looked and then asking "why".

You could also just as easily assume something like "Krayt and the Sith went into proper hiding after Alema found them because it made them realised they were too easy to find". It's not really an issue at all.