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How Grievous can wield lightsabers

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Yuuzhanvong1000, Apr 12, 2004.

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  1. Yuuzhanvong1000

    Yuuzhanvong1000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Alot of discussion has been on the boards about Grievous' use of a lightsaber. And I think I have figured out how he can be non Force sensitive/nonliving and still use sabers. Droids can slow down their perception of time so they can do multiple things in a very short time. From what I understand, the only reason Jedi are the only ones who wield lightsabers is that they can use thed Force to slow down THEIR perception of time. With his organic brain Grievous could easily use a lightsaber, and with his droid components he could slow down his perceptions. Thus making him able to use a saber/be a match for Jedi Masters without any Force training.
     
  2. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I think his brain is force-sensitive. The Force is completely mantal. The physycal aspects are just for show, like I don't think the force lightning had to come out of Palpatine's fingers, it coud have come out from behind Luke. It's just for the audience to understand what is happening. Grevious could potentaly do whatever a Jedi or Sith can with the Force, he just doesn't hve to as often because his body is more powerful than most.
     
  3. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Anyone can wield lightsabers -- it just requires training... or programming. ;)
     
  4. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why would a regular droid or person not be able to use a lightsaber? It's just a laser on a stick. Droids, tuskens, ewoks, jawas, and E.T. can all use one any time they want.

     
  5. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I once knew a kid who sort of jumped on the Star Wars bandwagon because I liked it so much. Because he wasn't exactly into it as much as I was, he didn't always have the clearest ideas about Star Wars.

    Anyways, it was his firm, unshakeable belief that if a Jedi/Sith picked up another Jedi/Sith's lightsaber, he would die. He could not be convinced otherwise.

    That is, until I showed him Return of the Jedi.


    That shut him up. :p




    EDIT: I just realize how completely random and unrelated my comment was. Sorry 'bout that, LOL.
     
  6. Jedi_Benji

    Jedi_Benji Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That is, until I showed him Return of the Jedi.

    Also Han in ESB
     
  7. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He just has superior reflexes that border that of a Jedi's. Anyone can wield a lightsaber, just not all against a Jedi. It's possible that Grievous is a bit force sensative, maybe related to one of the bio-droids in Cestus Deception.
     
  8. Sithman

    Sithman Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    "Also Han in ESB"


    Actually, it was just Jedi/Sith that would die if they picked up another person's saber. He thought non-Jedi (like Han) would be fine.


    Whatever! :p ;)
     
  9. Yuuzhanvong1000

    Yuuzhanvong1000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I always thought of it this way: A normal person can use a lightsaber for utilitarian/crude purposes i.e slitting a Taun-Taun's belly, because it doesn't not require constant focus, balence etc. Jedi are the ONLY ones who use sabers in COMBAT because (and this is supported by SoE and other novels) that when they use the Force in combat it slows their perception of time giving them a seemingly faster reaction time. Grievous with his droid body can probably slow his perception of time further than many seasoned Jed giving him his extremely fluid and swift fighting style.
     
  10. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I imagine that would be a good rationale for blocking blaster bolts. But there's no reason that a non-Force sensitive person couldn't use a lightsaber in combat. It's just a weapon, and an old one at that.

     
  11. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Keep in mind - if you screw up with a lightsaber, even ONCE, it could have disastrous results.

    Jedi are also either fighting alone or in pairs - if you have a bunch of people around you, you don't have a lot of room to swing around - you need the Force to guide the saber.

    I'm debating whether with Grievous it's ultra-fast reflexes or the Force - that could be something that Genndy & Co. weren't sure of. It would be nice if Grievous had ONE weakness. 8-}

    There's that one AWESOME move by Grievous when he's fighting K'Kruhk where he lets go of his right-hand saber, K'Kruhk then slashes through air and is off-balance....and then is finished off. But evidently survives somehow. [face_shocked]

    From what we've seen so far, it seems just uber-reflexes to me.
     
  12. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Agreed, DS615. The lightsaber seems to have evolved quite a bit. In the Original Trilogy, it was presented as an anachronism, generally considered inferior to modern weaponry. It even bounced of the railing on the second Death Star. The impression was given that Jedi used it not because they were the only ones that could, but that because they were the only ones that still wanted to.

    Only in subsequent years has the lightsaber seen an evolution into more of an exclusive, elite weapon.
     
  13. batman697

    batman697 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Forget for a second about HOW Grievious can use a single lightsaber. How in the %$#@ can he use THREE lightsabers??? And why is he so damn big and over the top? I hope he doesn't look that stupid in the movie.
     
  14. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Because he may be a bit force sensitive or has had his reflexes enanced.
     
  15. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How in the %$#@ can he use THREE lightsabers???

    He's a droid.
    How can the computer you're on now do three things at once?

     
  16. Darth_Meul

    Darth_Meul Jedi Youngling star 3

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    He's a droid.
    How can the computer you're on now do three things at once?


    Part droid. He's a cyborg.
     
  17. Yuuzhanvong1000

    Yuuzhanvong1000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That's one I've been saying, an organic mind in a droid body can do many more processes than a normal organic, therefore rivaling a Jedi.
     
  18. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Part droid. He's a cyborg.

    True, but we don't know which parts, aside from the eyes, are organic. He may have a droid brain.

     
  19. Darth_Meul

    Darth_Meul Jedi Youngling star 3

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    That's one I've been saying, an organic mind in a droid body can do many more processes than a normal organic, therefore rivaling a Jedi.

    Hm, current computerprocessors can do billions of calculations in a second, but if the cyborg has an organic brain, he should have the same behaviour as just an organic being. If his joints are well-oiled, his movements may be pretty fast and with great power (no saberlocks like Obi & Dooku), but his reactiontime should be the same. I can't see this really working unless he's a Force-user (not necessarily a Sith/Jedi).
     
  20. Dark_Jedi_D

    Dark_Jedi_D Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well it's about time someone other than a Jedi used a lightsaber(I know Han did in ESB but he didn't use it in actual combat). As it has been stated before anyone can use a lightsaber. It is just a weapon.
     
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