CT How long was Luke on Dagobah?

It's a little less the four minates of screen time, but its clear that more then that passes in universe (for istance, Han has time to get up, go back, get out tools and start emergency repairs on the drive). Not to mention that if it was all jammed into five minates they never would have been able to navigate the asteriod feild becuse at the speed they would have had to be moving Human reaction time would'nt have been capable of keeping up

They did'nt search Canto, they went right to the main casino since they already knew the Codebreaker was there (and it did'nt take them long to find him once they got there). And they did'nt seem to have been in jail that long - they certinly did'nt act like they had been.

Rey was on Ach-To for over a day, but were given no indication of when it lines of up Finn and Rose's trip other then the left the Raddus after Rey's "lesson one" at dawn, were arrested before her lesson two at sunset and left before she did at night. You can't say when those timeframs line up though, becuse we don't actually know definitivly when they occur relative to each other.

And i belive someone else already provided a source that time moves diffrently on Ahch-To a few pages back; one of the Visual Guide, i think? Or am i misremembering?

Not long since they knew were he was to begin with. And, you know, we see them find him without much trouble.

Listening to the Force and manging to block three blaster bolts from a single source is complelty diffrent then actually using a lightsaber to fight. What do you think would have happened if he had tried to actually do that in ANH?

Becuse this is what happened in his first actual lightsaber fight just a few weeks later




Vader even stright up observes Luke dos'nt know how to actually weild a lightsaber on the third page

I also provided examples disproving minates and supporting my claim that those examples were outliers, which you've never made any attempt to disprove outside of the TLJ example were discussing now.

I only claimed months when i was going on the assumption they traveled the whole way without a hyperdrive, which has since been disproven by a canon source. (i doubt the guide would have mentioned the backup if the implication was'nt that they had used it in ESB, since otherwise theirs no reason to include the reference to it)

For the record my asseration is hours with a reguler, fully-functional hyperdrive (the exact amount of hours depending on the drive) and days for a backup.

Cool, Han kisses a visably unfortable Leia. I never denied that. But by the time they get to Bespin she's acting like his affection towards her is perfectly normal and something she's used to and is perfectly okayw with, and that alone indicates that time has passed. Definatly more then a few hours

I mean, they probobly had sex of screen by that point (they certinly act like they've been intimate), i'd say that's pretty importent to their realtionship.

Realtionships - especially romantic ones - do not just materilize overnight in a vacuum.

Lucas never showed anyone going to the bathroom, does that mean peaple don't go pee? Just becuse we did'nt see something happen dos'nt mean it did'nt happen or its not importent. Hell, we don't see most of Anakin's training or the evolution of his relationship with Obi-Wan on screen, are those not importent to the story?

You ever play chess? (the game Dejarik is visually based on). It can take well over five minates to lose a single peice, let alone take a turn. (it's also not the first peice they lost, becuse while some sorces claim their are only eight peices in Dejarik in Solo we see that that particuler board has as many as ten when Chewie and Beckett are playing)

He was already training before the scene started.

As well as they fact he probobly would'nt have been able to call in Vader while in range of the Falcon without them detacting his transmisson

He probobly shot them with a homing beacon; Leia and Han would have no way of knowing or suspecting and as it was Lando's peaple who fixed the ship they could have just removed it without anyone being the wiser.

"sees the direction" they were in space, even by looking at their heading their would have resulted in countless locations to check unless - probobly as many as Vader would have to be checking, which even in such a remote part of the galaxy and with Bespin being so close to Anoat would have been a lot - they never say Bespin is the only inhabitable system in the vacinity, after all, and the only reason Han singles it out is becuse he knows Lando.

What would it being owned by Lando do for Boba? As far as we know Han and Lando met and worked together breifly thirteen years prior and did'nt really part as friends and theirs no evidence that they ever met agian until ESB. For all we know Boba dos'nt even know they know each other - hell, why would Boba even know who Lando is to begin with?

And how many destinations were their to check? Keep in mind there as far as we're show there are'nt that many Star Destroyers in Death Squadron.

And given the Devestator was riding the Tantive's fender soon as it emerged from hyperspace, its likly their was a homing becon in play their too - or else they got incredibly lucky beyond all resonable belief in just guessing the ships destination

 

he didn't we know that he didn't stop trying to change the movies.


I don't have the time to explain the language of film or basic film making to you. I've already proved that hyperdrive can be as fast as a few minutes. The best you can claim is a few hours. Either way going with Iron Lord said about having a back up hyperdrive proves beyond a doubt there is no way Luke was on Dagobah for more then a a day or two.


we are done here have a great day.

 

All Boba Fett had to do was check the trajectory of the Falcon on his own charts after following it for a while. And it's also possible that Fett knew that Han and Lando were friends.

 

For a long time, I really thought he only spent a few hours in Dagobah. But over the years, my mind has been changing. It could really have been about 3 days of training. For when Luke's mind is full, Yoda says he will no longer teach him that day, implying that the training lasted more than a day, 1:16:



Han, Leia, Chewie and 3po may have stayed in that cave 1/2 days and Bespin 1/2 days. It's very simple.

 

Agreed. But we run into two problems here.

Either A; he followed them through hyperspace, in which case he would need to have used a homing beacon since hyperspace tracking was'nt yet possible.

Or B; he was following them at sublight, in which case he would have had to follow them for some time to be able to descern without a reasonable doubt that they were going to Bespin, given the size of space (even with Bespin right next to Anoat their would have been god knows how many systems - we ourselfs know around sixty the immedate vecinity of our own star system)

If one accepts that he used a homing beacon, this is all fine, but if one rejects that possibility theirs no way he could have known were they were going if they were in hyperspace (and since we've established its canon that the Falcon had a backup drive, they more then likley were)

And while he could very well know that Han and Lando once worked together, remember that as far as we've been led to belive in canon they met exactly one time and, despite Han's assertations, they wern't really friends. Even if Boba knows they knew each other (and he may very well given how well-known that Kessel Run apparently is, unless both men left each other out of their individual stories about the event), what would it mean to him? As far as he knew they were aquiantices from one job thirteen years prior

You know the entire point of this thread is that were trying to look at the events of the movie from an in-universe prespective, not as the contents of the film? Right? What does the language of film and filmaking matter right now?

And I'm not changing the movie; if they were traveling at hyperspace theres literally no other way Fett could have followed them they were going without a homing beacon. It's simple logic.

I've provided evidance of a few hours, and i've provided evidance agianst a few minates and that points to the Coruscant/Mustafar and Yavin 4/Scarif trips being outliers.

Answer me this, if it only took the Falcon a few minates to get to Bespin, how could Fett have guessed were they were going, gotten there first with Vader and had time to go down to meet Lando and set up their trap before they arrived? By the time Vader would have picked up the phone they would have been on Bespin.

Alright man, you do you

That's a good catch; its amazing how one can watch these movies so many times yet forgot one simple line.

That alone proves that he was their at least two days, since in order to have learned anything since the experience in the cave at least one day must have passed. (and theirs also the fact that Luke was eating dinner when he first met Yoda, indicating that it was the evening when he arrived so unless Yoda started training him right away and pulled an all-nighter that's anouther day we can add to that, making at least three)

So the likley sequence of events would seemingly be
Day 1

• The Falcon and Luke leave Hoth, the chase occurs and the Falcon goes into hiding - it's worth noting that we come into the chase in medias res so we don't know how long exactly its been going on (not super long, though, since Han had'nt tried to jump yet)
• Luke reaches Degobah towards the evening.
• Luke sets up camp and, while eating dinner, meets Yoda and goes back to his house. Piett suggesting giving up the surch, indicating that some time as passed since the Falcon disapeared. Vader presumably puts out the call for the bounty hunters at this point.

Day 2

• The Falcon's crew discover the mynocks and flee the space slug; it's worth noting that by the beginning of this scene Leia is visably bored and Han seems to think that he's fixed the drive, as he's suprised when it does'nt work later, so make of that what you will
• Luke is training with Yoda; he's very sweaty and has got into a clear rythem, so he's been doing this for some time. He then has his encounter in the cave, and right before this Yoda says he won't train him anymore today, indicating that they've been going at this for most of the day (unless we're to assume Yoda was just half-assing it)
• The bounty hunters reach Death Squadron and assemble for Vader's breifing. The Falcon is persued by, and evades, the Avenger.

Day 3

• Luke is training with Yoda once more, and trys and fails to lift his X-wing from the swamp. It could be morning or evening, we don't know for sure but I would lean towards morning becuse A; Yoda presumably gave Luke a full day of training the day before and B; I doubt Vader would sit around for a full 24 hours doing nothing after the Falcon apparently jumped to lightspeed.
• Needa comes aboard the Executor and Vader accepts his apology. He then deploys the fleet (presumably divying up his Star Destroyers to the "every possible distination along their last known trajectory" in order to increase the chances of finding them). Piett assumes that the Falcon could be halfway across the galaxy "by now", which fits with the idea that a standerd hyperspace trip is mesured in hours, since as far as the Imperials know the ship jumped the day before.
• The Falcon detaches from the Avenger and sets off for Bespin with their backup drive. Fett follows them.

Day 4, 5 or possibly even 6 (depending on how long the backup drive gets them their)

• Fett figures out were the Falcon is going, reports to Vader and they set up their trap. (he could have also done this the day before depending on when in that day the Falcon jumped.
• Luke has his vision of Han and Leia
• The Falcon arrives at Bespin. It's sunset there. C3P0 gets blasted.
• (possibly) Luke leaves Degobah - he could also have done this the next day, we just don't know

Day 5, 6 or possibly even 7 (depending on the day before)

• (possibly) Luke leaves Degobah. Agian, he could have also done this day before this.
• It's daytime on Bespin, so we know that its at least been a day to Han and Leia. Furthermore Leia is worried about C3P0 and says he's been gone too long to have simply been lost, indicating he's been gone for a while - which supports it being a day
• The Falcon's crew get captured by the Empire. Around this same time Luke arrives in the Bespin system.
• Luke's approch is detacted and Vader has Han frozen. At this point the sun is setting.
• Vader and Luke fight, Boba departs with the Hansicle and the gang, sans Han and plus Lando, escapes Bespin on the Falcon.

So we get anywhere from five to seven days between everyone leaving Hoth and everyone escaping Bespin, with Luke's training lasting between three and six days

How does that all look?

 

yup 100% hell he doesn't even need to know Lando is his friend just that Bespin isn't controlled by the Empire.

Yy

Yup 100% agree

well on the plus side you finally stopped thinking his training was weeks or months.

you need to stop giving false choices. It's not a binary choice in fact you even say the co

As you, others and myself have all stated all Fett needed to do was see what direction the Falcon was headed call Vader and head there.

Fett doesn't need to arrive before Han only Vader and the Empire which they could have done. Fett just has to be there in time for dinner.

It really feels you like arguing as you have already argued against things you yourself already stated.

 

A possible way to follow them through hyperspace without a homing beacon - "enter the hyperspace tunnel" behind them. In Star Wars Rebels we see multiple ships, separate, in hyperspace at the same time - the Ghost and the corvettes.

So, if the Falcon isn't scanning to its rear, then Boba can follow them into hyperspace without being detected, and not lose track of them.

 

There are probobly a lot of planets in the vacinity that are'nt controlled by the Empire

I only argued weeks or months when the assumption was they made the trip without a hyperdrive. I belive i said "at most" a week when i first learned of the drive, but even then i'm pretty sure i admitted that would have been reaching.

Actually my bad, that's not what I wrote. I meant "a few days or a week" as being more likley in light of the backup and "a" day seeming like reaching. I'd edit it but its far to late for that.

And since they were traveling at lightspeed, he would have had to follow them to do that; he would'nt have been able to guess before they jumped becuse even with Bespin so close their would be countless other star systems nearby - and if hyperspace travel was mesured in minates the Falcon would have been there before he and Vader had showed up.

But your right, its not binary becuse as Iron_Lord points out below their was at least one other way to follow them through hyperspace. (entering the tunnel with them). My bad

That was with the assumption this was all done at sublight, in which case he would have had to be following them for a while in order to narrow down the choices of destination enough.

Who do you think told the Empire were they were going? I suppose its possible that it was just a concidence that Vader also ended up there of all places, but the implication from the movie itself is that Fett told him, otherwise why make a point of showing Fett to the audiance?

That's actually a good point; it never occured to me that thats what happening during those scenes in Rebels but now that you say it it makes sense.

You'd have to wonder why they wer'nt scanning, but then ship had been damaged (and they took a pretty big hit from the Avenger on their aft section)

Yes. I'm willing to change my opinion based on new facts presented that prove me wrong. Is that a bad thing?

And with the Fett statment I was'nt trying to argue agianst what I said earlier, you just apparently misunderstood what i said, becuse that was about following at sublight, not hyperspeed, and would have taken time.

 

at this point i'm convniced you have never watched any Star Wars movie.


HAN
Then we've got to find a safe
port somewhere around here. Got
any ideas?

LEIA
No. Where are we?

HAN
The Anoat system.

LEIA
Anoat system. There's not much
there.

HAN
No. Well, wait. This is
interesting. Lando.

so no there aren't a lot of planets near by let alone a lot not controled by the empire. and again

FETT DOESN'T NEED A TRACKING BEACON OR EVEN TO FOLLOW THEM IN HYPERSPACE HE JUST NEEDS TO LOOK AT WHAT PLANETS ARE ON THEIR TRAJECTORY WHEN THEY MAKE THE JUMP TO HYPERSPACE.


Do you understand that?

again no there aren't aren't. do you not understand how big and vast space is? Yes Vader could arrive faster then the Falcon as they have faster hyperdrives. Why do you keep making stuff up???

what is going on? am I being trolled?

Let's say I'm a bounty hunter and you are running from the law. If I know you are going to a auto shop to get your car fixed and I know you are driving down a highway that has only 1 garage for the next 100 miles.

Then all I need to do is call the police and say you are headed to the garage. I then can arrive AFTER you do because the police are already there. AND I CAN STILL SHOW UP WHEN THEY ARREST YOU.

Does that make sense to you? Obviously Fett didn't call the Empire when they got to Bespin as Lando says "they arrived just before you do" and C-3p0 was shot by a stormtrooper when they arrived meaning that the Empire was already there.


For someone who claims to want to find a logical way of explaining this in universe you seem to lack basic reasoning skills.

It doesn't matter if they had hyperdrive or not the film is still the same. Lukes training is at most a few days. You are trying to change the film and it's really weird.

 

Dude, they never say Bespin is the only safe harbor (nor the only none-Imperial system*) and the only reason Han singles it out its becuse he knows Lando. If he did'nt they probobly would have just glossed over it in their suerch.

*in fact Anoat is an Imperial-controlled system and the only reason they dismiss it is becuse theirs "not much" their, not becuse their concerned with the Imperial presence (Leia never even brings that up). So seemingly a system being controlled by the Empire was'nt really that big of an issue to them. In fact the closest either of them come to factoring in the Empire at all is when Han says Lando has "no love for the Empire."

Okay. One, dial it down a notch please

Two, Bespin is over a thousand light-years from Hoth and either slightly more or slightly less of a distance from Anoat; within a fraction of that distance (just over thirty light years) to our own star system their are over 400 stars, around sixty of which we know for a fact have systems of their own.

Fett would have to be insanly lucky, or a psyshic, to acuratly guess what planet they were going to just based on the direction they were flying, especially since we have no reason to think that Lando and Han's over-a-decade-in-the-past breif partnership would mean anything to him (and that's assuming he even knew about it)

But your asseration is that hyperspace travel is mesured in a few minates, and i don't recall you arguing elsewhere regarding the backup being otherwise unless i missed something.

Theres still the problem that, if hyperspace travel is mesured in minates like you claim, then by the time Fett figured out were they were going, called Vader and Vader got there the Falcon would have already arrived - and that's assuming Fett was able to just figure it immedatly just from seeing which direction they jumped, which seems really, really unlikly. And maybe Vader just got their independent of Fett, but if that is the case he still runs into the same problem Fett would have regarding the number of possible destinations (even worse so, since as far as the Imperials knew the Falcon jumped away with a fully-functional hyperdrive and had done so the day prior)

And agian, there no reason to assume that Bespin was the only "garage" on the "highway" becuse they only went their becuse Han knew Lando, not becuse it was the only viable destination - in fact, they never say anything of the sort regarding it being so.

I'm not arguing that it was anything more then a few days (minus prior to use establishing the canon existence of the backup drive) so...at least we argree on something.

 

omfg..... you have to be trolling there is no other explanation

What are you talking about man?? In our system here there are over 1 billion Stars not 400. But even if you pick any 1 direction and travel for 1000 light years you MIGHT hit 1 star.

SPACE IS HUGE


Imagine an Olympic size swimming pool. Now toss a ball into into just a tennis ball. And with out looking pick a direction in a 3 dimensioinal space. What are the odds you will hit that tennis ball? Answer slim to none unless you are heading directly towards it.

It's the same concept here. The only way Han is going to run into another planet is if he sets off too. That's why if you know the direction he is heading you can figure out where he is headed.


THIS IS WHY VADER SAID PLOT A COURSE FOR ALL KNOWN LOCATIONS ON THEIR LAST TRAJECTORY.

Again no he wouldn't because SPACE IS BIG AND EMPTY

This was already explained to you several times now.

If Fett calls Vader when Han makes the jump and it takes Han 10 mins to get there and it takes Vader 5 mins to get there. Then who gets there first?


Again we are in a sector of space where as LEIA said there isn't much there and AGAIN if Fett knows the direction they are headed and sees a planet they are heading in the direction of it's safe to assume that's where they are headed.

this is one of the most insane thing you have said. Of COURSE a planet not controlled by the empire is a big deal. The Empire is LOOKING FOR THEM.

Yes it is because in space the "highway" is 3 dimensional and goes off in every direction. all the planets they could go to are NOT in a straight line they are off in every direction.

Even if there was 1000 planets he could go to he could pick any one of them and still it would be the only planet in that direction.

Please stop derailing the topic with your trolling.
....

 

I thought that they couldn't go to lightspeed at all in those scenes? That’s why they go to Cloud City, for repairs?

 

In both Legends and Disney canon, the Falcon has an emergency backup hyperdrive. However, it may require a lot of work to bring online, which is why we don't see it used during the chase scenes.

They might have had to (after giving up on the main one) cannibalise the main one to get the backup one to work.

Given that the asteroid field is the Hoth asteroid field, and Hoth is over 1000 light years from Bespin, they had to be able to get into hyperspace somehow - and the backup hyperdrive is the way.

The big argument, is how long they took to make the 1000 light year trip - hours, days, or weeks.

 

Too complicated for me

 

Okay, but that just makes it even more unlikly Fett could have guessed were they were going right off the bat.

They were traveling at hyperspace, they could have been going anywhere, even along a single trajectory.

Which would have been countless locations, since Vader did'nt know they were using a backup drive and thought they had jumped the day prior.

And your getting these hard numbers from where?

Keep in mind the Empire had seemingly been their a while, since they had the trap all prepared and a fair amount of stormtroopers hidden away with the citizenry clearly unaware. Five minates or ten, its equally unlikly they could have done all that in such a short amount of time.

Fett would have to figure out where their going.
He gets in contact with Vader. We don't know if he has a direct link, so he may very well have to hailed the Executor indirectly (and keep that Vaders underlings seem to report to him in person even when its importent information - Veers about Hoth, Piett about the asteriod feild and the Emperor's holocall) so unless he was on the bridge Fett called someone would have probobly had to go find him; and the ship is massive.
Vader sets course for Bespin
Vader goes down to set up everything with Lando. He has to land in a ship, remember - SW sublight is fast, true, but it still would'nt be instantanous, unless he borrowed a transporter from Captian Picard. It would probobly take a few minates alone to get down to the planet in his shuttle.
Vader smuggles his troops into the city without anyone noticing. Agian, they'd all have to land in ships.

No way in hell that all happens in five or ten minates.

System. Leia said they were in a system that had not much there. They never say anything amout the sector not having much in it.

The Anoat sector is remote, but we know for a fact that its plenty inhabited.

They never bring that up, though; hell, Leia dismisses Anoat becuse the system dos'nt have much in it, not becuse it was controlled by the Empire - if it was a deal-breaker don't you think she would have brought it up? She never does, and neither does Han.

Agian, they were traveling at hyperspace, and for all Fett knows they could have just dropped out and changed course - and unless he's following/tracking them he runs into them same problem Vader does, and that's that he has no way of knowing their using a backup and that their range is limited

Not if they changed course, and unless he followed them or was tracking the ship how would Fett know they if they did that or not?

It could just be that the backup is stowed away and needs to be taken out and set up, like a spare tire.


They pull out the backup, unplug the main one and replace it - if they were doing it by hand and even one of the two drives is similier in size to the T-14 it would require some time to do and would'nt really be something they could have done while being chased

(They could have done it when they were hiding in the asteroid, but Han seems to have not given up on fixing the main drive then - he clearly thinks he's fixed it by the time they flee - so presumably that's why they did'nt do that then)

They were in the Anoat system when they jumped (or near enough to it that making a distinction otherwise did'nt matter)

Is Hoth/Anoat supposed to be the same system in canon? I did'nt think they are since Ozzel says the former is devoid of life and thats not the case with the latter. Am i missing something?

 

I have nothing firm to offer discussion, so disregard away. My impression, simply from watching the films, was that Luke spent considerable time with Yoda -- not months, but perhaps weeks. As his training progresses, Luke communicates in a much more familiar way with Yoda; in addition, he projects a fluidity and confidence in his movements that would suggest time to mature. Significant time seems to transpire before and after the failure at the cave. And so I always figured Hoth and Bespin were relatively close (I suppose closer than that since I guess 1000 light years is relatively close), perhaps in the same system or otherwise reachable by sub-light engines, such that going from point A to point B also took a few weeks.

Anyway, the back-up hyperdrive solution seems totally at odds with the feel of the movie, where the whole point of the first 90% of the movie is a will-it-or-won't-it question about the Falcon's hyperspace capability, but I understand why it exists.

 

I figure the asteroid field is very close to the "border" between the two planetary systems - cross the asteroid field and you've crossed over from the Hoth system to the Anoat system.

 

True. But their would still be open space between the two systems. (unless its a binary system and the two "systems" refer to the orbits of the two stars)

That's why i brought up the international waters analogy earlier - they could have been in open space but legally within the bounds of Anoat. Their just leaving the asteroid feild when we cut to the Avenger chasing them, so that could be the moment were they leave the Hoth system and into the extrasolar void, which is for all intensive purposes Anoat's terratory

As an example the Connecticut river lies between my home state (New Hamshire) and Vermont and the way the border is set up we own most (but not all) of the river*; the Connecticut river, in this case, would be the void, with NH as Anoat and Vermont as Hoth

*for anyone wondering, the NH/Vermont border is legally defined as starting at the natural low-water mark on the western (Vermont) side of the river. (And if you think that would specific enough to settle the issue for good, you'd be wrong)

He's there at least three days; he arrives in or towards the evening, he trains the next day* until Yoda tells him "nothing more will i teach you today" and then he trains more the next day - but all of that is factoring out the Falcon and it's trip from the equation

*I suppose Yoda could have just started training him the night he arrived, but that seems unlikely

 

......i can't even.........

If they are going in a single trajectory... and there is only 1 planet in that trajectory.... where do you think they are going?

omfg... what is gong on... where do you think i'm claiming these are hard numbers. I'm using these as an example to show you what could happen since you aren't understanding very basic concepts here.

What the hell are you talking about ??? Leai doesn't dismiss it at all. She just says there isn't a lot there meaning their choices are limited. No it's obvious they wouldn't chose a planet controled by the empire.

They don't need to bring it up as a deal breaker as it's already been established they are avoiding the empire.

Yes you are missing a lot.


Before you reply please sit down and watch Empire as you clearly unfamiler with the movie.

and again Stop trying to change what happened in the movie.

Fett followed them it doesn't matter how he did it just that he did. They reached Bespin in a less then a day. Doesn't matter how the fact is they did.

and again STOP DERAILING THE THREAD

 

Yeah, I always figured that it was some kind of short sub-light hop from Hoth to Bespin via the Asteroid Field. Probably the limits of what would be possible at sub-light because of Han saying "It's pretty far but I think we can make it". There isn't any mention of fuel I don't think in Star Wars until The Last Jedi, so I always imagined that "I think we can make it" was a reference to their on-board provisions etc.

 

Stright past Bespin and on to the next planet? Remember, Fett has no way to know that their using a slower backup and on top of that, for all he knows, they could have just dropped out of hyperspace and changed course - he could only have known otherwise if he was following them through hyperspace or activily tracking them.

Your stating five or ten minates as if its fact (and too boot ingoring the evidance i bring up otherwise)

LEIA - Where are we?

HAN - The Anoat system.

LEIA - Anoat system. There's not much
there.

That sounds pretty dimissive to me.

Your missing the point; Anoat is controlled by the empire - we know this for a fact - but when they bring up Anoat as a possabilty the reason they decided agianst it has nothing to do with that fact.

If it was a dealbreaker, don't you think Leia would have simply said "sorry, that's an Imperial system" or something to that effect? Hell, agian, they only pick Bespin becuse Han knows Lando, not becuse its and independent colony (in fact, they don't even really seem to even know that until they get their since Leia assumes its part of the mining guild, which has close ties to the Empire)

Hell, the Anoat sector - which Bespin lays in - is assigned to a Moff, so that alone makes it possible that Bespin is an Imperial controlled world (if but in name only)

I mean, it kinda does.

Agian, remember were looking at this from an in-universe prespective; if the Falcon is travling at hyperspace he would need to either A; put a tracking beacon on them or B; enter hyperspace in their wake - hyperspace tracking won't be invented for anouther thirty-three years.

It may not matter cinamaticly, but it certinally matters if were trying to figure out how these things "realisticly" occured in-universe.

And you of course have a canon source to back this up?

Keep in mind Luke (with a fully-functional hyperdrive, not a backup) takes either a day or several hours to reach the planet (depending on if he left the day Han and Leia arrived on Bespin or the day they were captured) - its sunset when they arrive (the scene right before he leaves) daytime when their captured (the scene right after) and he dos'nt reach the planet until its sunset agian.

That's Luke with his fully-functional drive getting to Bespin in (at the low end) a few hours. The Falcon was going much slower (the T-65B has a Class 1 drive, while the Falcon's backup is Class 10)

I'm not. The thread is about how long Luke was on Degobah, and the length of Han and Leia's trip in the Falcon factors directly into that.

 

We know from Star Wars Rebels, that there's homing beacon missiles that can be fired at ships:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/XX-23_S-thread_tracker

Boba may have prepared a jump, taken the shot, jumped out before the Falcon could notice, and Han and Leia may have felt a slight bump, and gone "What's that?" "It's probably a stray meteor, we're still close to the asteroid field".

So, fixing a homing beacon doesn't require that he actually dock with the Falcon.

 

I did'nt think he did, lol.

TPM. The hyperdrive was "leaking" and Qi-Gon said they had to land to "refuel" and repair the ship

Theirs also the nozzels and hoses we see on multipule occasions throughout the series starting in ANH, which have to be pumping something into the ships.

 

What do you think it's most likely that Boba did?

Entered hyperspace behind them, drew just close enough to keep track of them, and singled the Empire when they reached the outskirts of the Bespin system.
Fired a homing beacon at them, and tracked them that way.
Extrapolated from their trajectory that Bespin was their most likely destination, jumped ahead, and called the Empire from Bespin.
Something else.

 

Marty, please forgive me for the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to paint it or build it to scale.

I know space is three dimensional, but I always figured that this was what Vader was on about with his last known trajectory thing, and that the Falcon could have stopped at any of these locations on its way to Bespin