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How old is Bastila?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ive_Got_Two_Legs, Jan 17, 2006.

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  1. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    In the first game, I figured that she was around 20 or so, especially given how much stress was plased on the fact that she was just a padawan.

    But then, in KOTOR II, she's in the vision where Malak is recruiting Jedi at the start of the Mandalorian War, and the Exile remarks that Bastila warned the others against joining.

    But if my math is right, she would have been around 13 at the time...So were Malak and Revan desperate enough that they'd recruit 13 year old padawans to join their glorious army?
     
  2. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Padawan seems to be more loosly applied back then than post-Ruusan, more as a general term for early jedi than teenage apprentices. I'd say she's in her mid-late twenties in the game.
     
  3. NeoStar9

    NeoStar9 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well like the prequel era Jedi, students stayed Padawans for a long time before it was decided they were ready for the title of Jedi Knight. Look at Obiwan, he was what 26 or so in Episode 1 and it was only then did he become a Jedi Knight. I like to think it was his fight and wining of said fight against Darth Maul that finally got him the title, if not for that he might have had to wait another few years.

    What I like about the KOTOR era and the prequel era is that becoming a Knight isn't simply some symbol of adulthood that it kinda comes across as in the New Jedi Order. I'm not sure if anyone else noticed that or feels this way as well though. It just something that jumped out at me during the NJO that nobody commented on it or thought it was important enough.

    So while Bastila was a padawan back, that not to say she wasn't skilled. Look at the kid in ROTS during the Jedi Temple attack during Order 66. He had to be no older then say 12 to 15. Even at a young age, the older Jedi would have most certainly taken the younger Jedi on as students. Not exactly the right thing to do though but could have been done.

    So during KOTOR 1 she had be in what late 20s or early 30s? Which doesn't go against the trend for the characters. Revan and the Exile each had to be in their 30s at the earliest or late 40s/early 50s at the latest. The other characters as well were in late 20s or early 30s save Mission who was in her late teens. That's one of the other things I loved about the KOTOR games, the characters were adults or on their way to becoming adult.
     
  4. daileyxplanet

    daileyxplanet Jedi Youngling

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    I know this is minute, but Mission confirms that she is fourteen.
     
  5. QuiWanKenJin

    QuiWanKenJin Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think Mission said she was 14 or 13.:oops:
     
  6. NeoStar9

    NeoStar9 Jedi Master star 4

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    Stand corrected. Wasn't exactly sure about her age. Always figured she was 16 or around that. Though still like her character.
     
  7. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I seem to remember seeing something somewhere that put Bastila's age around 27-29 years old in KotOR. Don't ask me where, because I don't recall exactly. But if that's so, then Bastila would have been in her early to mid-twenties at the beginning of the Mandalorian Wars.

    Remember too, that Bastila wasn't swept away by the Jedi when she was a baby. She has memories about how her father would dote on her and that her mother was very self-serving and greedy. Just a theory, but her feelings regarding her parents might indicate that she was approaching her teenage years when she was taken away to be trained as a Jedi.

    And maybe it's just the way she shows up on my TV, but Bastila's face does not look like that of someone who has just left her teen years. Pretty, yes, but not the face of an early 20-ish woman.
     
  8. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    how old are visas, handmaiden and all the others? :)
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Kreia is 3,000,000 years old. :)
     
  10. JediTristan

    JediTristan Jedi Youngling star 3

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    hahaha, bastila is young, that's all I can say. Silly bastila *shakes head*

    I like Visas better.
     
  11. D-Murda

    D-Murda Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Actually Bastila says that even though she was just a little girl at the time of witnessing her mother mistreating her father she could still remember it. I would say that she wasn't a baby when the Jedi came for her but she was maybe 3-5 years old when they did.
     
  12. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Granted she is a Jedi, so the whole "Memory" thing gets changed, but how much can you really remember from age 3-5? I would say 7-8 would be more like it. I don't remember anything my parents said to each other when I was 5.

    Carnage
     
  13. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I'll lower my estimate...maybe she was ten or so when the Jedi came to take Bastila.

    I'm basing this off the fact that this is about the stage when girls tend to like their daddies a lot more than their moms. And Bastila would of had to be in a fairly old child/preteen stage to understand the concept of doting and self-servedness when it came to her parents' natures.
     
  14. Master_Shan

    Master_Shan Jedi Master star 3

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    I do believe my avatar was in her late 20's
     
  15. Radical_Edward

    Radical_Edward Jedi Youngling star 3

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    In the OJO era, Padawanship apparently began before the teenage years. This system appears far different from the AJO style of training, at least around Dantooine. One isn't even considered a member of the Jedi Order in the AJO time period until they've completed training that would put them equal to or above a Padawan approaching his or her trials in the OJO period, which is when their padawanship began. Padawans of the AJO also weren't directly attached to a master, as we can see from Bastila, Revan, and many other Jedi (although the master-apprentice system did exist, as evidenced by Juhani) The requirements for becoming a master also seemed to be far different. There were hardly any knights, but padawans and masters in abundance. Bastila, even as a 'mere padawan', was discussing the possibility of her working with Revan as being a test to see if she was ready to become a master. Perhaps Knight was a more permeable term, and not necessarily a direct step in the Jedi hierarchy.

    Anyway, my point is that being a Padawan did not necessarily mean that one was young, untrained, still in training, or not a full adult, as the OJO strongly implies. Bastila could have been well into her thirties while still holding the rank of Padawan. Based on her behavior, voice, model, etc. she gave the impression of being in her mid to late twenties as of KOTOR.
     
  16. snelson

    snelson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    revan---25
    bastila-23 (according to wookiepedia)
    carth---38
    juhani---22?
    belaya--20?
    mission--14
    vrook---70ish
    dorak---60?
    vandar---400?
    zhar---58?
    exile---24
    kreia--74 (according to woookiepedia)
    jolee---76?
    zaalbar---200?
    freyyr---400?
    malak--26?
    mical---24 ?
    visas---32?
    atton--27?
    zez kai ell--48?
    kavar--42?
     
  17. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    So would this be Jennifer Hale?

    [image=http://www.theforce.net/videogames/kotor/voc/jenhale.jpg]

     
  18. snelson

    snelson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    yes it is she even looks like bastila a little bit i mean the hair and the eyes look like bastila's
     
  19. Master_Shan

    Master_Shan Jedi Master star 3

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    Umm...not if you use her concept work...like my pic.
     
  20. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Definitely a resemblance, especially the cheeks. It'd be easier if that pic was colored. Anyone know if she has blue eyes and brown hair? Hard to tell with black & white.
     
  21. Master_Shan

    Master_Shan Jedi Master star 3

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    testing...

    for some reason I couldnt post a new topic...
     
  22. TheJediMan

    TheJediMan Jedi Youngling star 2

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    In Kotor I am guessing that Bastilla was probably in the 25-28 range. And Revan was in the 29-32 range.
     
  23. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    When I first saw the Bastila description on the main site, it was going on about her being a "quintessential Jedi", and for some reason, I read it as "quintagenarian" and looked over at the picture of her, then back at the description, then back at the picture, and said to myself, "There is no way she is fifty years old."
     
  24. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, if the color picture I've seen of "Jennifer Hale" is indeed the Jennifer Hale of Bastila voice-over fame, then it appears she does have brown hair, but her eyes are dark (perhaps brown).

    You know, it's funny how many womens' pictures will show up when you do an image search for Jennifer Hale. If the color picture I saw is Jennifer Hale/Bastila she really doesn't look like the girl in the black and white photo.
     
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