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Hutt's in Clone Wars Series (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by RX_Sith, Aug 4, 2008.

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  1. jabamascot

    jabamascot Jedi Youngling

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    Very Metrosexual???????? How about a totally homosexual cajun!!!!!
     
  2. Blue_but_beautiful

    Blue_but_beautiful Jedi Master star 4

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    That is exactly who I was reminded of, when I saw that Hutt! - Just a little bulkier round...well....everywhere really ;)
     
  3. kecen

    kecen Jedi Master star 4

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    He is CAMP, not gay. You can be camp and gay but being camp doesn't necessarily mean you're gay. Hutts have this cheese factor (Jabba's dancing girls, their fat sluggish movement, Queen Jool in a campy corset) inherent to being Hutts.

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  4. fanboyskywalker

    fanboyskywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Does anyone think that George and Dave had no idea about the asexuality of the Hutts? It sounds like that is something from the EU that is getting a lot of attention now because of Zero -- fans trying to insert that in as a likely reason for Zero's odd demeanor. I'm willing to bet that George didn't even think about that when creating Zero, he just tried to give him a unique voice and look so he was something different than what we've seen. Nor did he intend to make him the first gay Hutt.

    Also, if you look at Gardulla the Hutt in TPM she is clearly intended to be a female version of Jabba. I think there are even some quotes and stuff about that from when TPM came out. Someone better than I can probably track those down.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Dave was likely aware of the asexual nature of Hutts, Lucas, I;m not sure about (depends on how much he knows about slug biological functions, i suppose). We know that the manner in which Ziro speaks was from Lucas who decided he should sound like Capote, but the character design and, perhaps, his speaking basic, probably was established prior to that.
     
  6. fanboyskywalker

    fanboyskywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not sure about the speaking, but the designs for Ziro were. Still, I wonder, would he be pegged as "gay" if he spoke like Jabba but retained the same look that he does in the final film? I personally think his voice goes a long way toward the gay argument.

    I tell you, ff I was gay I would be furious at the critics for stereotyping me, but then I guess Lucas bashing is the bigger story.
     
  7. RX_Sith

    RX_Sith Force Ghost star 6

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    Does everyone accept Ziro's confession to Jabba that Dooku would have killed him/her if he/she did not kidnap Jabba's son?

    I do somewhat, but we never hear of Ziro again (or probably won't) so more than likely Jabba kills or has Ziro killed.
     
  8. boletus

    boletus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Um, he didn't have male dancers, but there was a shot where he was enjoying a massage from a male underling. The dancer was kind of in the background, possibly not for his own enjoyment. I recall reading somewhere that Jabba's interest in humanoid females was considered odd among the Hutts.

    I liked the Capote-esque voice. I thought it kinda portrayed a certain decadent/indulgent quality to him, that really fit the character. I don't think sexuality was supposed to be an issue. I'm fairly certain Filoni, who is supposed to be a fan of the EU, was aware of the asexuality/hermphroditic nature of Hutts. I think GL probably was as well. I'm sure someone knew it. They could have changed it, but they didn't, if they were completely unaware of it I feel like we'd have been treated to a mother figure or at least a mentioning of. By not mentioning it, they didn't have to explain it to casual fans or newcomers nor did they have to destroy the lives of rabid fanboys.

    As far as asexual reproduction goes, if that's the case transitioning from male to female doesn't make much sense biologically, but of course this is a different galaxy so it doesn't have to.

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    EDIT: Just pulled this off the SW databank, if it counts for much...

    "The Hutts are a hodgepodge of evolutionary traits. Like annelids, they are hermaphroditic, containing both male and female sex organs. Hutts are generally considered male unless they are pregnant, at which point they are referred to as female. Like marsupial mammals, Hutts nurse their young Huttlets in special brood pouches. Like aquatic sea mammals, Hutts are able to seal their slit-like nostrils, and Hutts can hold their breaths for significant lengths of time. Like serpents, Hutts can open their jaws to incredible widths, allowing them to swallow almost anything."

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    2nd Edit: So, I always though they reproduced asexually, but nothing here supports that... Not sure where I got that from, off hand. In any event, this would suggest that a partner may be needed (but not necessarily) for copulation. Some worms (annelids) generally mate with partners but have been known to self fertilize... Other annelids may reproduce asexually buy breaking a piece of their anterior or 'penis' off.** The data banks refers to them as gastropods first and foremost... The gastropod they most closely resemble is the slug...

    "Slugs are hermaphrodites, having both female and male reproductive organs.

    Once a slug has located a mate, they encircle each other and sperm is exchanged through their protruded genitalia. A few days later around 30 eggs are laid into a hole in the ground, or under the cover of objects such as fallen logs.

    For a species of slug that has an unusually elaborate mating procedure, see Great grey slug.

    A commonly seen practice among many slugs is apophallation. The penis of these species is curled like a cork-screw and often becomes entangled in their mate's genitalia in the process of exchanging sperm. When all else fails, apophallation allows the slugs to separate themselves by one or both of the slugs chewing off the other's penis. Once its penis has been removed, a slug is still able to mate subsequently, but using only the female parts of its reproductive system." - wikipedia

    So, I just wonder which is more accurate? Does Rotta have a "mother/father" other than Jabba?

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    **3rd Edit - Annelid info from Wikipedia as well**
     
  9. The_General_Onslow

    The_General_Onslow Jedi Master star 1

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    Before this movie, I figured that most (if not all) Hutts would have a big, booming voice like Jabba's because of their great size. Of course, each voice would be distinct, but they'd all have great resonance, whether male, female, or (as may be the case w/ Ziro) transitioning.

    I didn't really like Ziro's voice, which seemed too small for his huge body, and in fact reminded me that I was watching a "cartoon". I don't think they would have given him a cartoonish voice like that in a live action Star Wars film, and in a way, this cheapened the Clone Wars experience for me. I don't want my Hutts to sound like Ickis, Buster Bunny, Cow, Chicken, Mr. Whiskers, et. al. (I'm not that big a fan of Charles Adler's work, as you can tell). I've read that originally Ziro was going to speak Huttese and that GL stepped in and asked that he speak in Basic and sound "like Truman Capote".

    In a way, I can dig it. If he's supposed to sound like Capote because he's transitioning between sexes, that sort of makes sense, and living on Coruscant, he would be using Basic more than a Hutt who lived in Hutt Space. Other than the Adler references above, what he most brought to mind was Bill Dauterive's effeminate Cajun cousin Gilbert.
     
  10. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    hutts have dancers to make bipeds jealous and to show them they have all the power over the bipeds.

     
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