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I dont understand the concept of being "stripped" of the force

Discussion in 'Literature' started by THRAWNFAN, Mar 28, 2007.

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  1. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I'm not so certain "frequencies" or even spectrums is necessarily the right method of catagorization. Besides, it's not taking the Force away from someone in the sense that they are no longer in the Force, but that their sensitivity to it has been deactvated. Though Ulic Qel-Droma shows that there is either some element left to it OR that the Force does have a will and for his repentant attitude and atonement through training Vima Sunrider he was able to merge with the Force upon death.

    The Exile is interesting because she shut herself off from the Force, and not by just ignoring it, but she literally shut herself down. Is the Exile even entirely human that her ability to bond with just about anyone may have been physically telepathic rather than something of the Force. Because she was only able to touch the Force through bonds with other Force-sensitives and only after a while did it reawaken her Force-sensitivity.
     
  2. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ^ I'm pretty sure, in SW, telepathy of any sort is through the Force, just like the Miraluka's ability to see is through the Force, or the vornskr's ability to hunt.

    And yes, frequencies or spectrums aren't necessary. Think kryptonite: Superman's physical body is still there, the yellow sun is still there, but Superman's powers are cut off.

    Or how about every time the X-Men lose their powers? The DNA is still there, but they can't access their mutant powers.

    It's a really, really common plot device.
     
  3. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I don't own ToTJ myself so I cannot go and reference it...but I do not believe so. I think the conversation is in "The Sith War #1" and goes something like...

    "How does the force feel when you meditate" - Urr
    "Calm like a sea" - Nomi
    "For me too. However sometimes Jedi have to take up weapons." - Urr
    "Yes, Thon taught me the lightsaber and Arca taught me Battle Meditation" - Nomi
    "Arca was good at that..he could raise the wills of armies" - Urr
    "Can dark side users use battle meditation?" - Nomi
    "Yes, but you don't see it much anymore. They used to sit in their spheres and control minds" - Urr
    "Something like that happened on Onderon. what do you do about it?" - Nomi
    "You must focus your power to build a wall of light to block their power without harming them, you can even make it permanant" - Urr
    "Sounds frightening" - Nomi
    "It is the most devestating power usable by the Light Side of the Force. I myself became good at it during the last Sith war" - Urr

    Obviously that is a very short paraphrasing, but you may have gotten the fact that it has something to do with battle meditation because of the way it was introduced. It seems that one of it's uses is to counter a dark sider's battle meditation, but there appear to be other uses for it as well and is not necessarily dependant on battle meditation. It's more like a "Wall of Light" power than a "Dominate Mind" type power.

    Carnage
     
  4. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Wow, that was good paraphrasing for someone who didn't have it on hand. That's pretty much exactly how it goes.
     
  5. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I have a really good memory. Just the other day I was posting something in another thread about....about....

    Wait, what were we talking about?

    Carnage
     
  6. THRAWNFAN

    THRAWNFAN Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Would it be possible for Luke to cut off Jacen from using the dark side?
     
  7. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    In "Dark Lords of the Sith" Exar Kun was effectively blocked off from using the Light Side by Freedon Nadd as well as his own anger. He had to use the Dark Side to survive. I guess in the same way it is possible that Jacen could be blocked from the dark....maybe finding only his Empathetic side was the only thing he had left. This sort of thing does seem more dark side to me, though.

    Carnage
     
  8. Vongoid

    Vongoid Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Basically, we're all stripped of the force.
     
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