IDing Yuuzhan Vong "ships"

OK, by process of elimination, now that we know wat some YV ships look like from the NEGVV, can we now idenitfy the vessels illustrated in the NJO Sourcebook, namely, the red and green vessels attacking the Jubilee Wheel over Ord Manttell (the pic with the gian dread weapon worm) and the flat brown saucer ships in the pic of the destruction of the Hapan fleet by Centerpoint.

What type of ships were at Ord Mantell? At Fondor? By process of elimination, we can eliminate Miid Ro'ik, Vua'spar, Yorik-stronha, Sh'rip Sh'pa, Yorik-trema, Kor Chokk, and Koros-strohna (featured in NEGVV and the Vua'spar on one of the NJO covers).

That leaves: Suuv Ban D'Krid, Uro-ik V'alh, Uumufalh, A-vek Iiluunu, Chuun M'arh, I'Friil Ma-Nat, Matalok.

 

Uh, it's easy, you just replace in the "normal" names for the designations. Assault/heavy cruiser, battleship/destroyer, light cruiser, gunship etc.

And there was a Vong cruiser at Ord Mantell, so take that off your "list".

 

Is the NEGTVV worth getting?

 

Just look for whatever "analog" they say it is, and then ID it to the class name in the YVD.

 

Analog this and analog that . . . no one has bothered to give us info and basic specs on these warships. You shouldn't have to resort to sourcebooks and guides to know how their lengths, such basic entitlement.

It was outstanding for Denning to say 150m frigates. At last, I knew what something was. Allston used the names of radamak assault vehicle and Matalok cruiser.

People will say the Vong names are not easy to pronounce, so no point in having them on the page.

I would say give us their translation. For example, Matalok-class cruiser could be the equivalent of, say, Sacrificer-class cruiser; Kor Chokk, which means nothing to the reader, could be Grand Paladin-class destroyer.

 

I have a feeling they're called that because there is no approximate translation. Anyway, the YVD on TF.N books is good enough and costs zilch to view.

 

It's all fiction. Make believe. By also giving a possible Basic translation for these alien ships, you make them closer to the reader.

Lancer frigate means a lot more than "Krrep Hfigg" cruiser analog to a reader.

 

OK, by process of elimination, now that we know wat some YV ships look like from the NEGVV, can we now idenitfy the vessels illustrated in the NJO Sourcebook, namely, the red and green vessels attacking the Jubilee Wheel over Ord Manttell (the pic with the gian dread weapon worm) and the flat brown saucer ships in the pic of the destruction of the Hapan fleet by Centerpoint.

As luck would have it, there's really no need for process of elimination. I can tell you what the ships are, based on my friendship with Jeff Carlisle , who illustrated the pictures in question, as well as my work on his website.

The green and red ships attacking the Jubilee Wheel are coralskippers.

[image=http://www.theforce.net/books/carlisle/gallery/illustration/starwars/njosourcebook/dreadweapon.jpg]

The flat, brown saucer ships are A-vek Iiluunu fighter-carriers. Actually, this picture is upside down in the book.

[image=http://www.theforce.net/books/carlisle/gallery/illustration/starwars/njosourcebook/fondor.jpg]

And for good measure, here's a tsik-vai.

[image=http://www.theforce.net/books/carlisle/gallery/illustration/starwars/njosourcebook/tsikvai.jpg]

What type of ships were at Ord Mantell? At Fondor? By process of elimination, we can eliminate Miid Ro'ik, Vua'spar, Yorik-stronha, Sh'rip Sh'pa, Yorik-trema, Kor Chokk, and Koros-strohna (featured in NEGVV and the Vua'spar on one of the NJO covers).

That leaves: Suuv Ban D'Krid, Uro-ik V'alh, Uumufalh, A-vek Iiluunu, Chuun M'arh, I'Friil Ma-Nat, Matalok.

Obviously, more ships were present at these battles than the ones pictured. I'm just identifying the visible ones.

The only Yuuzhan Vong capital ship to be featured on a cover is the Miid Ro'ik on the cover of Onslaught. The vua'spar has yet to be featured in any medium, unless the "Yuuzhan Vong Warship" detailed in the main section of the NEGtVV is identified as a vua'spar (haven't had time to explore my copy yet). In which case, the vessel on the cover of Onslaught would retroactively become a vua'spar, even though the vessel was not in that book.

 

I've pruned the info from the UNJOH YV Fleet Database into this text file, detailing the Name, Class, Length, Weapons and Onboard Craft for each YV ship. Also took the liberty of reclassifying the largest warships from Capital Class to Space Station Class, which conforms to the conventions used by WOTC in their RPG suppliments & rulebooks.

As noted above in the cases where "**** analog" is used just look for the type of ship after the name. So the "warship analog" should be the 1,620 meter Miid Ro'ik, and the "battleship analog" should be the 2,240 meter Uro-ik V'alh, for example.

Yuuzhan Vong Fleet

 

Just to clarify, I haven't updated the online version of the database in quite some time, so some of that data may be outdated and/or superceded by more recent sources. I probably won't have time to make any major changes before Christmas break.

 

Ah have there been some clarifications regarding the Vong ship stats that have come about since the NJO sourcebook was released?

 

They're organic, so each one is unique in a couple aways, that's how i've always seen it. Plus, didnt't they use gravity as an IDer for Vong ships? Specific gravity signitures?

 

I was pretty sure the Vua'spar wa the ship on the front of Edge of Victory II: Rebirth.

 

That was a segment of the worldship in the "book" known as Rebirth's cover.