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Imperial Soldier

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Bravo, Jan 31, 2002.

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  1. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    We all have seen Imperial Stormtroopers, army generals, army officers, and naval guards. But what does a Imperial Soldier look like?
     
  2. Amithyst_Blade

    Amithyst_Blade Jedi Padawan star 4

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    is there such a thing? i thought the lowest rank was a Stormtrooper...
     
  3. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    No. A Stormtrooper is one of the highest ranks. They revice orders from Stormtrooper officers, who get the orders right from the emperor him self.

    Here is some information on Stormtroopers, that I got from Offical Site of Star Wars:

    The military soldiers unswervingly loyal to the Emperor, stormtroopers represented the most visible extension of Imperial might. They were shock troopers meant to strike with speed and accuracy, putting down insurrections and maintaining order on the farflung worlds of the Empire. Stormtroopers served both the ground-based armies of Palpatine's forces, and the space-based Imperial starfleet.

     
  4. cavalier_one

    cavalier_one Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There is a regular Imperial Armed Forces. They wear uniforms similar to AT-ST drivers in ROTJ. There are pictures of them in WEG's Rules Of Engagement, but I have no scanner so I can't post them - sorry.
     
  5. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    That is okay. Can anyone print out a imagine of a Imperial Soldier?

    Also, if you can, can you post what there duties are, there ranks, and how many there might be?
     
  6. cavalier_one

    cavalier_one Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    From the Imperial Sourcebook (summarised)-

    Squad - 8 soldiers commanded by a Sergeant

    Platoon - 4 squads, commanded by a Lieutenant and Sergeant Major

    Company - 4 platoons, commanded by a Captain

    Battalion - 4 companies, headed by a Major

    Regiment - 4 battalions, commanded by a Lieutenant-Colonel

    Battlegroup - 4 regiments, led by a High-Colonel

    Corps - 4 battlegroups, commanded by a Major General

    Army - 4 corps, commanded by a General

    Systems Army - 1-3 Armies, commanded by a High General

    Sector Army - 2-4 systems armies, led by a Surface Marshall
     
  7. ImperialFC

    ImperialFC Jedi Youngling star 1

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    According to the WEG Imperial Sourcebook (pg. 45):
    "Army troopers make up a vast number of the Empire's planet-bound fighting forces. These soldiers wear similiar uniforms to the Naval Trooper, complete with helmet. But the Army wears a gray-colored uniform and partial armor for protection.
    These soldiers are trained only to fight, and they do it very well. They are taught all manner of combat techniques. Hand-to-hand, blaster pistol, grenade, and heavy weapons training are just some of the areas these soldiers are expected to excel in."

    As for the numbers of trops (pg. 101): "The sector army includes every single army trooper in an assault fleet. This is 774,576 trops and 1,180,309 personnel in total. 66,640 repulsorlift craft are in service with the sector army, as well as 13,992 heavy tanks."

    Assuming each sector has this many troops, then the number of Imperial Army soldiers should be quite high.

     
  8. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    So, what is the diffence between an Imperial Soldier and a Stormtrooper?
     
  9. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    I think your question was already answered...
     
  10. AdmiralZaarin

    AdmiralZaarin Jedi Knight star 5

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    [image=http://www.wotf.net/insd/insd/Ship_files/itarmspc.jpg]

    :)
     
  11. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Whered ya dig up that pic?
     
  12. Dire_Wolf

    Dire_Wolf Jedi Youngling star 1

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    As Xizor said the question was answered. But for a quick sum up. Troopers are the standard fodder, but make up the larges numbers in the Empires forces. Stormtroopers are the more Elite(guardsmen serverwith them) troops that are extremly loyal, and are more highly prized by commanders.
     
  13. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    Posted by Dire_Wolf:

    ...and are more highly prized by commanders.

    I thought Stormtroopers were more higly prized by commanders? They were the ones at Hoth, and at Endor.
     
  14. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    In the Classic Trilogy stoormtroopers sucked, very similar to the james Bond villians, they couldnt shoot who they were soppost too.

    However in the EU there more highly valued and have strickter traineing.
     
  15. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    Not at all, C-dude... They're as much 'standard-issue blaster fodder' in the Eu as in the movies... Actually that's why the ST are so cool... There's nothing better than entering a room filled with ST and shoot them all with your own E-11 while never getting hit... Ever played Jedi Knight ?
     
  16. Warlord_Ken

    Warlord_Ken Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here's my take on it: Stormtroopers were elite Imperial troops, and regular Army soldiers were, well, just that.

    My question is: How come all we ever hear about are stormtroopers, and why do they seem so common even though they should be elite and therefore few in number? Since all we ever saw or read about was stormtroopers, I deduced that they were the standard/regular Imperial army soldiers.

    As for their inaccuracy problem, they shoot well against anyone except for heroes (i.e. Han, Luke, Leia, etc.).
     
  17. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Yeah its cool not to be hit Xizor, but Heres my theory. The Stoormies of ANH are actually the Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great+another 300 of those, Bond villians Grandfathers.


    Oxygen
     
  18. Samuel

    Samuel Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Somewhere its said after Endor, with the Empire constantly loseing battles that they began to run out of stormtroopers. That was a huge blow to morale, Stormtroopers was one of the clearest symbols of the Empire on its planets. So Moffs began equiping regular army troops with stormtrooper armor to keep up the guise. So thats why there was so many Stormtroopers in the EU. They aren`t really the "elite" though anymore. Just regualer old army with stormy gear.

    And on another note, I always thought of Stormtroopers as being something like the star wars equal of our Marine Corps :)
     
  19. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    From WEG's Star Wars Roleplaying Game, Second Edition-Revised and Expanded; under the Gamemaster Characters section, pages 208-209:

    Imperial Stormtroopers

    The Empepror's elite shocktroops, stormtroopers can be found anywhere the Empire seeks to assert it's power to inspire fear in the populace--in other words, everywhere. Stormtroopers expect to be obeyed unquestioningly when dealing with civilianx, and cannot be bribed. Failure to comply with an order from a stormtrooper typically results in incarceration if not death.

    Imperial Army Trooper

    The standard infantry trooper of the Imperial Army, these individuals are the most common and visible symbol of the Empire on most worlds. The are confident, arrogant and eager to fighte, and hathe the Rebel Alliance/New Republic with amazing ferocity


    So basically the difference is that stormies are used as shocktroopers and to keep the populace in line through fear where as the army troopers are more going to be the garrison forces. When you think about it, one would be a bit less intimidated(spelling please) by the army troopers because you can see their face. So you can better gage what their thinking/feeling through their facial expresions where as with stormies you have to look into a face mask that hides all expresion except for what you may detect through their voice.
     
  20. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    In AOTC, we will probally see Stormtroopers who are very good, very elite. My theroy is this:

    Stormtroopers

    After ESP. 3, stormtroopers are going though less and less mental work, thus they are not as good as the first stormtroopers. With the empire's huge empire, they had to turn out soldiers faster, so stormtroopers are taught more about weapon firing, and phsical shape, not more mental training, which makes a stormtrooper great.
     
  21. Dire_Wolf

    Dire_Wolf Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Bravo i think i missed what you were saying the StormTroopers in EU are more Highly prized. They where what was cloned by Thrawn, and Thrawn was pissed when they were wasted.
     
  22. Wyl_Transerwnnyr

    Wyl_Transerwnnyr Jedi Youngling star 1

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    There is a very subtle difference between the Army trooper and the Stormtrooper. Stormies are incapable of hitting heroes due to the aura of "hero-ness" surrounding those characters. It distorts the light around them so that those who are trying to hit them are actually aiming at a point above and to the left of the hero's head. Army troopers, on the other hand, can't hit ANYTHING. Imperial ineptitude saved the day for the rebellion.
     
  23. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Actually, if you look at the stats for the typical army trooper versus that of the typical stormie in WEG's Star Wars Roleplaying Game Second Edition, you find that that the army trooper is a slightly better shot than the stormie.
     
  24. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    If that is so, then why do we see stormtroopers all the time? Why dosen't Darth Vader use Imperial Soldiers, instead of stormtroopers?
     
  25. Dire_Wolf

    Dire_Wolf Jedi Youngling star 1

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    My guess is that Vader uses them because he's Vader thus he has access to the elites. where as the army, is for small garrison duty and for unimportant things. where as stormtroopers are for importants things, and just to be a show in force.
     
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