In Your Dreams, CorSec: The Corran Horn / Mirax Terrik Society

The squadrons are coming along nicely, but there must be more loyal fans willing to enlist for this charming EU couple.
Any more takers?

 

I'll PM Myra, see if she wants to join.

 

A comment on an earlier topic that came up in here, about Asyr's treatment of Gavin in not letting him know of her survival..

I just finished Isard's Revenge again, and one thing I noticed was that I never really got the feel that Asyr was as much in love with Gavin as he was with her. She cared for, obviously, and a lot, enough to stand up to Fey'lya - but she doesn't come across as really being fully in love with Gavin. Whereas with Mirax and Corran its easily evident that they both are in love with each other. Gavin is very much in love with Asyr - note that marriage and adoption is his idea, and he talks to other squadron members (read: Corran and whoever is nearby ) about the relationship and the marriage/adoption idea more than once, beginning all the way back in Wedge's Gamble. Perhaps to Stackpole, that is a key difference in why the two couples have such different results?

Not in-universe, but from Stackpole's point of view... if Gavin and Asyr were to marry, one of them would have to resign from the squadron... and I have a very hard time seeing either of them doing that

 

That's a good point; Asyr was obviously more concerned about Bothan attitudes in general than she was with Gavin; not to say that she didn't love Gavin, but she felt her duty to advance her people's attitudes were more important.
Also, one thing that I don't believe has been brought up yet: in the NJO, we learn that Gavin married and has children. He never seems to lament over losing Asyr, so even though he loved her at one point, he was meant to be with his wife, and he knows that.

On a completely unrelated note, I don't recall ever seeing any good pictures of Corran and Mirax together. Are there any?

 

Asyr was obviously more concerned about Bothan attitudes in general than she was with Gavin;

Thats true. She was willing to flaunt the Bothan leadership but didn't want the views of those leaders (well, Fey'lya) to, shall we say, corrupt the common Bothan people.

He never seems to lament over losing Asyr, so even though he loved her at one point, he was meant to be with his wife, and he knows that.

Also true, evidence of how Gavin is able to adjust and move on with his life, probably better in the long run than he would have been with Asyr. Even if (he knew) Asyr had lived and they married, adopted, etc., they would have undoubtably had to fight Fey'lya the whole way.

On a completely unrelated note, I don't recall ever seeing any good pictures of Corran and Mirax together. Are there any?

I'm sure theres at least some decent fan art, if nothing more official.

 

i think you're right about their relationship...it does seem to have been a little unbalanced as far as how each felt about the other.
i still haven't read the njo yet, but i really wil be getting on that soon so i guess i'll see what you guys are talking about then.

oh, and thanks for letting me know what you thought!

 

How far are you in the series, celestia? Don't rush or anything, but there's a lot of great and not-so-great stuff that happens to the Stackpole characters (Corran, Mirax, Gavin, Elegos, and more) in the NJO.
Like any other series, the NJO has its ups and downs, but overall, there are a lot of great books, and the character development is really a lot of fun to watch. One of the authors in particular, Greg Keyes, made Corran central to a few of his stories, and he does almost as good of a job with the character as Stackpole does.

 

Uh, I don't remember Gavin being married. Who was he married too?

 

I don't think it says specifically who... just references to him having a wife, IIRC.

 

Well, Gavin is cool! So he deserved a good wife.

 

i haven't delved into the njo at all yet....i've heard mixed reviews, but it doesn't matter. i'm still planning on reading all of them in order. oh, and thanks for the heads-up on greg keyes! i'm looking forward to reading his stuff.

 

Reading them in order really is the best idea. I won't mention details here since you haven't read it yet... but I will say that the end of DT: Ruin really worried me from the point of view of a Corran fan. Fortunately, it wasnt as bad in the end as it could have been, though.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they mentioned his wife in the Dark Tide duology, and probably in the Enemy Lines duology as well. Again, if Stackpole decides to grace the EU with his presence once more, it would be neat to learn more about Gavin's wife, who she is, how they met, etc.

 

Hmm...I think, if I recall correctly, Gavin goes through with his and Asyr's plan to adopt children, and later falls in love with the adoption agent, Sera Faleur. (Blacked out for those who might consider that a spoiler. Info about Gavin's wife. She's mentioned in Dark Tide: Onslaught.)

Oh, and I second reading the books in order. I read The Joiner King without having read the NJO, and even though I enjoyed the book, I felt lost quite a few times!

 

That sounds about right. I don't remember the details exactly, as I read "Dark Tide" about a year ago, but that seems to ring a bell.
Also, I second (or, at this point, third) that you should read the NJO in order, since one book ties right into the next.
My experience with the NJO was bittersweet: I absolutely hated the premise, and I couldn't stand Vector Prime, the first book in the series. However, the more I read, the more I got engrossed in the story, and the more I wanted to know how things would turn out. I never really grew to like the premise, but I absolutely loved some of the books (and absolutely hated others... but only a few).
NJO is flawed - like any other series, of course - but overall, it's a very enjoyable read with a few real gems.

I'm in the middle of reading The Joiner King right now, and I think it may be Troy Denning's best Star Wars book yet. I love how he weaves in all the elements from his two previous books. TJK really integrates all of the events of the NJO with a more classic Star Wars storyline that finally answers a few boiling questions.

 

Didn't Gavin and his wife get divorced? Or did I misread that?

 

Hey, back from vacation yall. Everyone who joined thw Whistlers, welcome. Everyone who joined the Elmeralds, welcome. Hmmm. Will I have to be establishing Lts. soon?

 

I don't remember reading that Gavin and his wife got divorced. Which book would that have been? I could double-check.

 

Gavin and his wife are happily married, from what I understand. His wife's name is Sera Faleur.

EDIT: I'm ready to be the starter of a Gavin Darklighter FC if anyone's interested. I LOVE HIM.

 

Jaina Byrd, I'd support that. Gavin's a great character.

And, I meant to mention this earlier, but I've been hit and run with the forums today -- I don't recall ever seeing pictures of Corran and Mirax together. I'm thinking if there are any, they'd be in Union, which is the only TPB that I really, really want and don't have. (I may have to swing by Amazon.com later. ) I've seen a few pictures of them individually from comics. I scanned one of Mirax from The Phantom Affair the other day and posted in the Icon Makers thread over in Communications, so I'm hoping that an icon from that image will make its way to the JC. *crosses fingers, knocks on wood*

Oh, and does anyone know all of the comics that Corran and/or Mirax have been in? Maybe we can compile a list.

 

I actually own Union. Maybe I could dig it up (this won't be easy, mind you, my room is a mess) and try to scan a picture of Corran and Mirax, if I find one of them together. I don't recall them sharing much screentime, though.

 

Yeah, I'd forgotten that detail about Gavin's wife. Oh well.

Gavin's a great character, and its nice to see the Darklighter name again after Biggs had to die in ANH. Granted, Gavin's character is quite different from Biggs, but still.

And now that I think about... those Alliance pilots must have been really, really busy in the time leading up to the Battle of Yavin. Because Wedge talked about how he went on several missions with them... but he was on Tatooine talking to Luke and about to defect (deleted scene in ANH) at the same time the Tantive IV was being captured there. Maybe R2 and 3PO had been walking for a week or more before they found the Jawas

 

I wouldn't doubt that they were busy; after all, the Rebellion had finally gotten some legs to stand on, according to the scrolling text. This would have been the first time that the pilots could really press their advantage.
Furthermore, 3PO and R2 probably were out in the desert for a long time. A week? I don't know if a droid could last that long, but you figure that for them to go separate ways, each make a good deal of progress, and to both be captured by Jawas and reuinted, it must have taken a fair amount of time.
Finally, if the scene was deleted, does it still really count? I guess there are other references to Biggs leaving Tatooine, but if he left earlier than ANH, he would have had plenty of time to join Wedge on missions.

 

That scene is also in the novelization and (I think) the radio dramatization as well, not deleted from those, so I'm pretty sure it still counts.

As for the droids, you also have to consider they had stormtroopers searching for them pretty quickly, which cuts down on the time they would have had.

 

Even so, on a desert planet like Tatooine, footsteps wouldn't be visible for very long, and traces of the droids would be few and far-between. Since it seems like the Stormtroopers were searching on Dewback-back (try saying that three times fast), without air support or vehicles, they could have easily missed the droids for days.
Also, what was Wedge's exact wording? As we know, his words could be true... from a certain point of view.