Insider #80 to feature Mandalorian article, Yo Joe!

"Yeah, I didn?t mention much about the Mandalore mask simply because its purpose seemed obsolete. In the Crusader era, it?s one of the only masks/helmets that looks Fett-like ? that is, has the T-visor shape. Obviously, with hundreds of Mandalorians sporting helmets with the exact same design in homage, from the Neo-Crusaders onward, the symbolism of the mask as leader-identifying is pretty much obliterated. What?s more, wearing a mask that leaves the back of your skull exposed when there are helmets available that would protect the whole of your noggin more efficiently would be pretty unwise for a Mandalore.

Which isn?t to say that the mask has completely disappeared. It may still be inherited from one Mandalore by the next, even though they don?t wear it anymore."

I think that's why Mandalore the Ultimate took the Mask and welded it to a helmet, and changed it's color from red to Silver. Canderous wears the Mandalore Helmet in the game.

 

want to post your old fanfic, Abel?

 

Guess I read my book wrong.

 

Mareel or Mereel, Abel? Which is it?

 

It's Mereel.

(Also, given that Dr. Evazan is the ?the one that got away? and Kast?s tendency for masquerading as Boba, it?s quite possible that the ?Boba Fett? who?s after Dr. Evazan in Galaxy of Fear: Necropolis is in fact Kast).

Ooh, I hope not . . .

Hmm, where do City of the Dead and the Evazan story in Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina take place chronologically in regard to each other?

 

City of the Dead is 6 months ABY. Doctor Death is, presumably (as Evazan dies in City of the Dead) sometime between A New Hope and that book.

 

Thanks Abel. No I haven't rad the article, all I know about it is from this thread which has been very informative.

 

Dan Wallace wrote:
?When a continuity geek like Abel writes an article that is read by a continuity geek like me it's like throwing down a gauntlet,?

We geeks have fun that way.

?and based on this piece, I must admit defeat (and concede any claim I might have to the title of MOO). I'm still trying to ID the "dreamscapes of Shogun."?

The O.G. MOO is too modest?Shogun?s surreal vistas seem unfamiliar because they are brand new.

Jort wrote:
?Just wanted to let you know that Leland Chee asked on the Official Site forums what people think Ailyn Vel's age is.?

You got a link for that Jort?

The2ndQuest wrote:
?I reposted my analysis of Ailyn's age for LeLand. She has to be somewhere between 29-45 at the time of TUF.?

I?d say Ailyn is in her mid 30s.

QuentinGeorge wrote:
?Hi, I'm Anakin Skywalker-Organa-Solo-Antilles-Fel-Fett-Windu-Vos!?

?You are annoying.?

CeiranHarmony wrote:
?now the question is, what is this superbeing? a body for the Will of the force? without a soul, but the whole force living through one body??

A Squib, maybe, you betcha.

DarthMane2 wrote:
?Jastar and Jango were Mandalorian Mercs, both leaders of the Mandalore mercs.?

That?s not exactly right. Jaster joined the Mandalorians while they were largely a mass of lawless mercs. However, when he became Mandalore, he reformed them under the new code of honor the Supercommando Codex, based on Mereel?s own piety. This was essentially the beginning of the True Mandalorians, which is the closest thing to a return to the Canons of Honor. By contrast, the lawless Mandalorian Merc tradition at this point is carried on by Vizsla and the Death Watch.

Jango did mercenary work, but was not what is commonly called a Mando Merc. He came into the already established True Mandalorian tradition, which followed the precepts of Jaster Mereel.

Take care,
Abel

 

CeiranHarmony wrote:
"want to post your old fanfic, Abel?"

Heh. Thanks for asking CH, probably not though.

Incidentally, what do you think that botched job by Jodo, Zarda, and Puggles was referring to?

Take care,
Abel

 

>(Also, given that Dr. Evazan is the ?the one that got away? and Kast?s tendency for masquerading as Boba, it?s quite possible that the ?Boba Fett? who?s after Dr. Evazan in Galaxy of Fear: Necropolis is in fact Kast).<

Woah, woah, let's not go overboard with the Fett impersonations--if we keep that up, people will be wondering if it's really Boba Fett in every source from the Ota story to TESB. And besides, Fett needs to have an established history with the Arrandas--he's in two other books in the series. Also, Slave I appears in the City of the Dead story.

Of course, Evazan apparently "got away" again after he was killed in Galaxy of Fear, according to the online databank. I suppose we have his reanimation serum to thank for that.

TC

 

CeiranHarmony wrote:
?EDIT: How about... crowning Abel? Mandalore Abel, The wise Keeper of Knowledge.?

Just Luke?er, Abel.

For those interested, this is how the article lays out the Mandalorian incarnations (these were originally marked in bold for clarity):

Mandalorian Crusaders
Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders
Mandalorian Mercs
Mandalorian Death Watch
True Mandalorians
Mandalorian Protectors

Best,
Abel

 

Hey Corroney, I drew your Boba Fett Unmasked picture after i finished taking my World History exam the other day, bro! Thanks for giving me something to do

 

Abel what happened to the Mandalorians who still followed the Canons of Honor?

We know the Mercenaries survived, but it says nothing of what happened to Mandalore and his clans. I had the theory that these Mandalorians are what we see on Mandalore, domesticated, and had forgotten all about the Canons of Honor. Of course this would have take some hundred years to do?


Who destroyed the Ithullans? The Mandalorian Mercs or the Crusader clans.


And why would the Government need Spar to take the Mandalmotors facility? They are a ruling body are they not?

 

And why would the Government need Spar to take the Mandalmotors facility? They are a ruling body are they not?

MandalMotors according to the many essential guides, is a corporation independant of the government. It was not created by the government nor was it under the juridiction of the government, hence the Mandalorian government's illegal seizure of the facility. Governments can't usually just walk in and take over corporations. Not in free societies anyway. The fact that they had to seize MandalMotors like that suggests that it was an illegal action.

That or they did ask the corporate heads to begin making war machines and the company refused. In which case the government went in and took their facilities anyway.

Or there may have been a requirement in the law that states that corporations must turn their facilities over to the government when asked during a time of war.

However the Corporate heads may have disagreed with the government's decision to go into the war on the side of the CIS. In that case the government would need to taketrhe facility by force.

So, you have three possibilities.
In either case, it probaly wasn't kosher,

 

I don't see Spar's age as a problem, b/c of WHERE Ailyn found him, as a crazed lunatic in the EXTRICTARIUM Nebula..The Extrictarium Nebula is the location of the planet Iego.
Go read up on the planet Iego in GATORW. It makes clear that for people on Iego, time stands still and they DO NOT AGE and can practically live forever as long as they are on Iego.
So, regardless of his accelerated aging, once he got on Iego, Spar would have ceased aging until Ailyn killed him.
And being stuck on Iego (the Gilligan's Island of SW) might have driven him nuts too.

 

interesting fact, thx! So Iego, hmm... is it a legend or a fact that you don´t age there? and why is it that way? quotes?

 

You got a link for that Jort?

Right here Abel:
Click

 

Incidentally, what do you think that botched job by Jodo, Zarda, and Puggles was referring to?

That would be in WEG's Tatooine Manhunt with the hunt for Adar Tallon, right? I assume it is "botched" because Tallon got away to the Rebellion. I hadn't heard of Puggles before, so that reference threw me. Zardra and Kast also work together in the WotC adventure "Cloud Cover" in Gamer 3.

 

Esplin9466 wrote:
?Any official word yet on when the opening scene of "The Last One Standing" is set? It has to be somewhere between 19 and 15 BBY, but, as far as I know, its exact placement on the timeline is still ambiguous.?

Hmm, IMO this would be the most useful item in discerning Ailyn?s age. While I can?t speak definitively on the subject, I believe it makes most sense for Boba?s ?happy? period with Sintas to have occurred around the time he became a Journeyman Protector, his return to bounty hunting ways precipitated by whatever disillusionment caused him to kill another Protector. Nail Boba?s days as a Journeyman, and you?ve more or less nailed Ailyn?s birth.

Can someone give me the logic behind ?Outbid??s? placement around the time of ANH?

Endaeon wrote:
?How many in the time of the NJO? from Kotor, Game and comics (TotJ) I got the impression they were thousands.?

Hey Endaeon. Yes, I understood you perfectly well. Obviously, we?ll have to wait and see what is established officially about the Mandalorian Protectors in the NJO era. It?s my opinion, however, that Fenn Shysa eventually got the Mandos to several hundreds strong before Fett took over.

CeiranHarmony wrote:
?Somehow I wonder if either Boba and his daughter settle their conflict (I think they will), and she will become Mandalore after Boba. Only my thoughts.?

That?s certainly a possibility, CH.

QuentinGeorge wrote:
?Especially if he's an Old Republic Jedi. There's a rule - all Old Republic Jedi have to address each other by their full names, and, not only are they all "old friends", but they have to call each other "old friend" repeatedly...?



The X-Wing comics had a good solution to the awkward Full Name phenomenon, slapping a dialogue box with the character?s name beneath him or her at the beginning of a new story. Not sure why the method hasn?t been more widely adopted. One reason might be that it looks somewhat awkward. It could also be ego: nameplates like the ones in the X-wing comics would be a sort of concession that your characters aren?t ?memorable? enough, which is not necessarily true. Even the X-wing and NJO books had dramatis personae.

TalonCard wrote:
?In the Early Adventures strip, Han was just a side job--Fett was really after the Mole, and he makes several derogatory comments to Han about it: "You're just side money for me this trip"..."Jabba will give me a couple of credits for your hide" etc. Unless you mean the last panel, where Boba yells after Han that "Nobody does this to Boba Fett!" (Gosh, Boba sure refers to himself in the third person a lot in that comic.) Could be what made the whole thing personal, I suppose.?

Yep, that last quote?s exactly the ?grudge? incident I was referring to.

?Being stuck by a giant magnet will do that to you. (Isn't Boba's plot foiled by another giant magnet in the Droids cartoon as well?)?

ROTFL.

Two big laughs in one post. It?s a good day.

?Rule #1 for people wearing Mandalorian armor: stay away from Sarlacc pits. Rule #2: avoid giant magnets and/or demagnetize your Mandalorian Iron before use.?

Bravo TC?quoted verbatim from the Supercommando Codex.

Take care,
Abel

 

"Hey Endaeon. Yes, I understood you perfectly well. Obviously, we?ll have to wait and see what is established officially about the Mandalorian Protectors in the NJO era. It?s my opinion, however, that Fenn Shysa eventually got the Mandos to several hundreds strong before Fett took over. "


Only hundreds? I would think that since Fenn got the entire sector back, he would have each planet to lend a hand into building his army. With different races like, Mandalians,Mandalore, Togorians, and other races(not to mention those that joined from the sector) Fenn's army would be in some thousands.

 

Outbid might have happened around ANH, but I think there is so much stuff happening around ANH with Boba Fett, we should place it before ANH. For in the Special edition Boba is with Jabba in Docking Bay 94 lecturing Han Solo about credits and depts.

So Outbid is before ANH I think, and we know Boba had several adventures during that time, f.e. the Hunt for the yavin vassilika, etc. I think Outbid is between some of these adventures, but Ailyns birth was not close before Outbid, more or less I think it was closer to Revenge of the Sith. After the Jedi Purge was over Boba had fullfilled his hate for the Jedi, taken revenge in purging some. Then he settles down on Concord Dawn. (maybe about 3-5 years after ROTS)

theory:

There he becomes a Journeyman Protector, but falls in love with lawbreaker and hunter Sintas Vel, they have a Baby and when another Journeyman Protector finds out and wants to put her to jail, Boba kills him and has to flee with her.. but soon he realizes that with a family there is now way to become a hunter again. his enemies would hurt them to hurt him. so he abandons them with only little explanations on some safe world and is Bounty Hunter again.

Sintas searches for him, but Boba is always already away when she gets close to finding him, to see him again. Maybe she eben encounters Jodo Kast on some adventure? Then in Outbid she meets Boba again who knows Ailyn only as a Baby, but Boba had to emotionally separate himself from her, though it is hard for both it is best, or so he thinks.

maybe Outbid takes place soon before Ailyns 16th birthday, and Sintas wanted to find Boba to return to his daughter? dunno.. but soon after she died, when away collecting credits for a birthday present for Ailyn. Maybe it was Jodo Kast who killed her?

 

Neat article, the best of the Who's Who stuff we've had so far. But man, there are a lot of Mandalorians running around. I thought it was cooler when it was just Boba Fett lurking throughout the galaxy, kickin ass and taking names.

 

>>Who destroyed the Ithullans? The Mandalorian Mercs or the Crusader clans?<<

Don't have the article right in front of me, but IIRC, it was the Crusaders who destroyed the Ithullans. I seem to recall reading that the Crusaders destroyed the Ithullans, Kuarians, and some other race/species.

 

Only hundreds? I would think that since Fenn got the entire sector back, he would have each planet to lend a hand into building his army. With different races like, Mandalians,Mandalore, Togorians, and other races(not to mention those that joined from the sector) Fenn's army would be in some thousands.

Millions I'd think. Unless the Mandalorian Protectors are a very select group and there's a regular army.

 

Ceiran:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20040226geonosis

"Spacers have been winding up at Iego since the dawn of hyperspace travel. The accumulated number of castaways on the planet now makes up a population thousands strong. Each of the shipwreck survivors pledges allegiance to one of Iego's competing tribes. Some of the tribes are charitable, some malignant, and some have gone feral in their desperation. Curiously, Iego has no apparent natural resources, but those doomed to live there supposedly no longer feel the effects of age or hunger. According to spacer lore, Humans who fought in the Great Sith War four thousand years ago could still be alive on Iego."