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  1. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Hybrids" (all of which are Human/Near-Human crosses) include

    * Allana
    * Bey
    * Tenel Ka Djo
    * Krynda Draay
    * Lucien Draay
    * Mirta Gev
    * Jabitha Hal
    * Shug Ninx
    * Danetta Pitta
    * Marka Ragnos
    * Naga Sadow
    * Rystáll Sant
    * Diva Shaliqua
    * Simus
    * Aurra Sing
    * Ailyn Vel
    * Kelly Vermillion
    * Korto Vos
     
  2. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Sith were originally a "near" Humaniod race who bred with exiled dark Jedi...........interesting. The whole Sith religion seems to be born of an Interspecies relationship...........
     
  3. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah. master to slave. And the purity of being "unmixed" was a prominent point in the Sith Empire.
     
  4. cs47

    cs47 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    An interesting topic. I tend to think there are some of these that are viewed as "normal" in the SWU (Twi´lek female-Human male, for instance), and don´t raise great attention, at least not in the OR, NR or GFFA (Palpatine´s Empire is another matter). Although we can only speculate that if the couple doesn´t look particularly mismatched it´s OK, i guess this would include Humans with:

    -Arkanians (and their offshots).
    -Zeltrons
    -Chiss
    -Ubese(at least those capable of breathing normal atmospheres).
    -Twi´leks
    -Togrutas
    -Felacatians
    -Farghul
    -Omwatis
    -Falleen
    -Nagai
    -Tofs
    -Zabraks
    -Umbarans
    -Devaronians

    and some others that i can´t remember right now.


    Now, the problem arouses: if there are so many interspecies relationships, where is the offspring? I don´t think it´s easy to answer, but here are some guesses:

    1)To begin with, there aren´t so many of such relationships when compared with the millions and millions of intraspecific ones. Therefore, there aren´t so many hybrids, or there shouldn´t be.

    2)Even if these species involved are capable of producing fertile offspring (or offspring at all), i tend to believe the rate of success in pregnancy must be far lower than that in intraspecific relationships, even more it might be a difficult and risky proccess for mother and child. As a consquence, hybrids would be more scarce than they should judging by the number of relationships capable of producing them.

    3)It seems plausible too, that hybrids don´t look very "hybrid" at all, thus being difficult to tell from purebreeds of the same race. Perhaps the usual result looks more like the mother than anything else, only with some minor characteristics inherited from the father.

    4)Quite a few of the said relationships might take place in backwater planets, where scientists don´t care to go and study such matters.
     
  5. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I found that an amusing nod that the Empire is much like the Sith Empire in that respect.
     
  6. Ulicus

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  7. Teegirloo

    Teegirloo Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I would wonder if the offspring would have been outcasts of society though i haven't seen any yet.[face_thinking]
     
  8. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The term used on Wookiepedia is "interbred". Is this information innacurate? It certainly could be, I'm just wondering if there is more to the Sith/Dark Jedi gene pool than meets the eye?
     
  9. EECHUUTA

    EECHUUTA Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    All those sound like they would be very plausible. Plus another option could be, interspecies breeding is discouraged by some of those societies. Or it could be the hybrids could look like a normal variation of the the species. For example, if a Zabrak bred with a human and the human begat a child, the child would still look like the member of the Zabrak species, especially if it inherited the horns. The human and Zabrak both have hair, they both have boobs or a male private part, so if it inherited the horns it would look nearly outwardly normal. If not, it would still look outwardly normal, but human instead.


    To me, the Sith look too alien to be considered "near-human." Especially with that red color and those "mustache" tentacles.
     
  10. cs47

    cs47 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree with you, in fact i have to thank you for raising the matter of the social taboos and such, which i had forgotten to mention.
    I wonder in fact if it´s relatively common to find groups that tend to be very closed and don´t rely on strangers (even if they belong to their own species), which means that a member of the group would eventually marry within it and not with a stranger. There´s is at least one such case, i think: the moisture farmers of Tatooine.
    If the colonisation of the Galaxy has proceed in relatively small groups that share a common heritage and belong to the same species and when they settle in a certain planet develop into one of such isolasionist communities, that would be another reason to explain why hybrids aren´t very numerous. And if we add to that the fact that quite a few planets are inhabited by only one species...well, the picture is clear.
     
  11. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I found me a source on this interbreeding Sith issue
    Star Wars Insider 88: Heritage of the Sith by Drew Karpyshyn
    "Over the centuries, rulers mingled their blood with that of their slaves and servants. Transformed by the power of their dark side masters, the Sith species advanced and evolved discovering new ways to manipulate the dark side of the living force..." Page 23

    So unless this article is disproved by the Jedi vs Sith source book(it may be, I dunno?), the early Sith religion does have a lot to do with an interspecies relationship.........though I'm sure any such bloodlines died off with the Brotherhood if not much earlier than that. We know Bane's heritage from the Path of Destruction Novel and he was the lone remaining "Sith".
    But I do suppose there could be decendants of those original Sith still floating around in the galaxy somewhere......
     
  12. r2d2istheman

    r2d2istheman Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm fairly certain that it is impossible to interbreed between species. It was mentioned in the Rogue Squadron Series.
     
  13. Master_Keralys

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    It depends on the species. The particular pairing in question was between a human and a Bothan, which is well-known to be an unviable match genetically. Other matches may "work" sexually but do not genetically similarly. Only near-humans (true near-humans, not merely visual near-humans) are capable of interbreeding. Thus, Ubese or Twi'leks are almost certainly out...

    - Keralys
     
  14. cs47

    cs47 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, i was meaning the branch of the Ubese who were capable of breathing normal atmospheres, if i recall well those were the group relocated in Ubertica.

    On other species "visually" near-Human...i don´t know. Perhaps all i could base any guess on would be the fact of some Twi´leks having a non very Twi´lek sin hue, but...:confused:

    In this last case i recall that when at a certain point Alema Rar and Anakin Solo developed some mutual interest, Han´s concerns weren´t related with the fact of her belonging to a different species, but with her being more mature than him.
     
  15. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    They're still Ubese, no?
    That's because the ability to have children isn't related to the ability to love one another.
     
  16. sonnymyson

    sonnymyson Jedi Master star 3

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    Agreed most sincerely.

    And there are 'halfbreeds' in GFFA-- Shug Ninx. This business of humans vs. nearhumans vs. humanoids is terribly confusing and best left to the authors and artists. What they do, and whom they do it with, when LFL isn't looking is their own business.:)
     
  17. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    I don't think it's really that confusing.

    Humans are humans, meaning "people-like-us"-- stock Earth-ish humans.

    Near-Humans are also humans, but in some way not quite Earth-ish-- they've adapted (usually genetically, but sometimes merely culturally) to a different environment.

    Humanoids are aliens that just look kinda like humans-- there's no relation otherwise.



    In other words, Humans=wolves, Near-Humans=Dogs, Humanoids=Tasmanian wolves.
     
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