ST Is a TROS Director's Cut Possible?

It might be hard to believe, but I really try to do that. It's just when I think of certain things in the ST, mainly the latter two films, it's immensely frustrating.

I hold out a small amount of hope that they can do a TCW-style beefing up of the ST, but we'll have to see. The shows are doing okay, EA no longer holds exclusive game rights, and now that the trilogy is done, ST novel writers won't have to worry about having their work retconned by filmmakers. Maybe they can turn it around, I dunno.

 

I think this is very unlikely, and were they to do it, I doubt it would really be a "Director's Cut" in the traditional sense of releasing a version that was more developed than the theatrical release, but that had to be cut down to meet the studio's commercial inclinations. But it's not impossible.

• The Snyder Cut does seem to have been a success, both in reception and new subscriptions, but maybe more importantly, it generated a lot of buzz and renewed interest in DCU. The marketing campaign around its release was all about "serving the fans," and I think it really did that and really was that. Disney wants that kind of positive press, they want those "bigger than a movie" narratives around their intellectual properties. Unlike the Snyder Cut, I don't think there's actually any substantial fandom movement that wants more TROS (well, aside from Reylos), but that wouldn't necessarily stop Disney from manufacturing one. They are very good at generating buzz, as is Abrams. If they are at a point in a couple years where they think Star Wars needs a hype injection, or are trying to launch an Episode X-XII trilogy, they *might* try something like this. But then again, maybe Rogue One would be a better candidate for that.
• I agree with FightoftheForgotten that whatever additional footage is laying around probably can't change the plot, but it could slow down TROS' frenetic pacing. That would be a major improvement imo, it might even give TROS a substantially different feel. It kind of has the structure of big epic already with a more eclectic gallery of both human and CGI characters than either TFA or TLJ. Who knows what additional footage is in the can though, whether it's enough.
• There's still no way it can "fix" the ST imo, there's just too much dissonance between the three films. But I would still be interested to see it, because at this point I appreciate each film as a contained project, a preview of three different Sequel Trilogies which were never realized.

 

There can be no Director's Cut of TROS. The Snyder in this scenario is Colin Trevorrow and he was axed before they can even start production.

 

We’re not talking about CT’s version of 9 being made.

 

I know, but knowing Abrams, he is more akin to Joss Whedon than Zach Snyder in the situation, hired at the last minute to essentially make a safe product rather than sticking to a grander vision for Star Wars.

 

It´s time JJ create a account in Vero.

 

Completely different situation.

 

As much as people want the ST to be abandoned and moved on from, I don't think they can just leave that era as a blemish on the franchise. Whether it be adding more exposition with more shows taking place during that time, or releasing Special Editions that will become the new canon going forward, like Han not shooting first, etc. I think they'll try to fix this mess, maybe not immediately, but eventually.

 

I think it’s already started with The Mandalorian. The ST isn’t going to be erased or remade, but I think Lucasfilm will do their darnest to recontextualise it so the events aren’t as important.

 

Sounds like the same thing that has happened with all of Star Wars nearly from the start. Star Wars rebranded as Star Wars: Episode 4 A New Hope and in and on.

 

Once KK goes , I suppose there's a chance we may see an extended cut of TROS cause I don't think the rumours of a much longer cut a false....

 

I honestly can't be bothered, I'm sorry. JJ's film was a lovefest to his favourite character while everyone else was an afterthought, and I frankly have had enough of Rey the Magnificent!
But, it'd be nice for those who liked TROS.

 

I want to see the Oracle. Still can’t believe the only cool idea JJ had was axed.

 

Lucas wanted to re-contextulise how we thought about Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker etc. and he certainly wanted to make SW more expansive by giving it chapter/Episode numbers, but that's a bit different from what I think Lucasfilm are currently doing.

 

I'm sure there are deleted scenes that would work with the film as released, but judging from all the news about the chaotic production and constant rewrites, most of the deleted scenes are probably from earlier iterations of the story and don't function as a coherent part of the narrative.

 

The narrative is already incoherent, I really don't think a few more scenes of the actors getting into exposition or goofing off will make it worse.

 

I think it would help to keep in mind that the movie was *re-written* multiple times with months of reshoots. Re-writes and reshoots = many scenes in TROS could have been completely different. Same re the story.

 

Using what a GL LFL did around the PT as a foundation to expect what Disney LFL will do around the ST is a mistake.

Completely different entities and motivations.

Bob Chapek is in charge now.

 

I think if Disney release a special edition / directors cut of TROS it will please fans no end especially if it is the rumoured 3 hr cut :

1. Flesh out the story line more
2. Palpatine background
3. More Rose
4. More Cohesive story structure

 

The best burn I saw on a rumored 'Abrams Cut' is it will likely have 5 more minutes of footage, but 18 more MacGuffins.

Imagine the possibilities - so many more maps, in so many different forms, leading to so many more original trilogy characters!

 

I'm not sure it would... especially if fans see the objective of a SE/Directors Cut as being to 'fix' TROS or improve the ST. It's not like The Lord of the Rings, where fans just want more opportunity to immerse themselves in the Middle Earth universe. A directors cut will probably just underline the issues the ST had, even if it's a 'better' version than the one we got.

 

Yeah the extra footage we know exists seems fairly inconsequential in respect of "fixing" anything. From memory these are the only ones I can think of:

- Kylo Ren, Hux and Pryde on Mustafar, Hux and Pryde chat, Kylo goes to see the Oracle (I really wish they'd release this, it sounds cool);
- Random scene with Snap Wexley and Klaud the slug mechanic (probably random comic relief cut out of an interaction that's already in the movie);
- Rey and Rose talking on the Resistance planet;
- Kylo tortures Chewie (supposedly a very dark scene);
- Extended end of duel between Kylo and Rey on Kef Bir, Kylo uses Force to pin Rey after she falls (a matter of a few seconds); and
- Scene (Boyega is unsure if it was shot but seems to think it was) where Rey tells Finn she's always known that he's Force sensitive, which as I indicated previously is an incredibly bad idea and was rightly cut for reasons that should be obvious.

 

I don’t think it would be worth it - in terms of fan response - to merely make a better version of the movie we got.

I didn’t get the sense that “more info about Palpatine” or “more Rose screentime” or “better pacing” were really the fundamental issues folks had with the movie.

To be fair, what the fandom hated may not be what turned off the GA or otherwise indicated to DLF that they had messed up with the target audiences. I would think, though, that if DLF admits it effed up with TROS it would be through the release of something different and improved enough to make that “mea culpa” worth it.

(And that’s the thing - I don’t think Disney is fundamentally unwilling to make a tacit admission that a movie was messed up. I just think such an admission would have to make them $$$$)

 

Yeah I heard of those ones but I really want to see them and it's very frustrating that they were not in the blu-ray ! what possible reason could they have for not having deleted scenes ? that's why me's thinking there just maybe a definitive cut coming at some stage.

I really want to see that Kylo torturing Chewie scene not that I'm into torture or darkness - I just think it would be cool to see a really Evil side of Kylo before his redemption.