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Is Masturbation Wrong?

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by hear+soul, Jan 18, 2007.

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  1. THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN

    THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Dont put words in my mouth. Porn is bad for your mental and spiratual health. Watch it all you want, its your body.
     
  2. OBIWAN-JR

    OBIWAN-JR Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    >>>> Pornography is as filthy as the people who watch it.

    And yet I know a married couple who credit the very same 'filthy' material as having saved their sacred union from the depths of sexual despair.

    So who is responsible for their, reinvigorated, educated, continued and expanded loving of each other - God or the devil....?


    -JR :)
     
  3. Boomer_Athena

    Boomer_Athena Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There's a reason that porn is not to be accessible until you're the age of 18. They want you to actually be mature enough to be capable of incorporating it into a healthy sex life.

    Of course, it seems by your stance that you're in the "Sex is ugly, and is a necessary evil used strictly for reproduction purposes only", camp.
     
  4. THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN

    THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Again, dont put words in my mouth...Sex is perfectly fine inside of marrage.
     
  5. rhonderoo

    rhonderoo Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Watch it. That's a pretty big generalization that you know is going to start an argument. (i.e. flame baiting)
     
  6. Dingo

    Dingo Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So you are saying that we should refrain from doing anything that causes us pleasure because of the chance that we might be one of the extremely small minority of people that have the brain chemistry that leads us to be more susceptible to addictive behaviour?
     
  7. TRADMIC

    TRADMIC Jedi Knight star 5

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    I have no idea what any of you are talking about, so I'm just gonna go to my room now.
     
  8. beaujolais2003

    beaujolais2003 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    You bet it's wrong, and you're going to go to hell for it. I will be waiting there for you to dunk your head in the lava over and over and over.
     
  9. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I do it 3 times a day. So that couldn't possibly be wrong...


    but religiously...yes it's wrong. so stop and get a GF..check out my hook up thread for more info.
     
  10. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I find it amusing that such a thing is a huge religious problem.
     
  11. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    it's against god and it's creation. the purpose of the penis is to produce..not waste the gene pool and abuse it. the human body was meant to be used for good, not for pleasure.
     
  12. Valkor

    Valkor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    pleasure = good

    ?
     
  13. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    yet if you don't ejaculate then your body will destroy sperm reserves and thus they are wasted. What (biologically) is different between ejaculation sperm loss, and internal sperm loss?
     
  14. Jaden-Skywalker

    Jaden-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    lol kitty
     
  15. Abomb

    Abomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Here are my thoughts on the matter. I have no read the thread, so pardon me if this has already been said.

    We know pornography is wrong from the verse that says "I tell you the truth, whosoever look upon a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart." The whole point of pornography is lusting after women. QED.

    As for masturbating, I have found no verse to explicitly forbid it (I personally think the Onan argument is a little weak). However, if you masturbate while having sexual fantasies, you are committing adultery in your heart, which the verse above condemns. But I can't find any objection to masturbating without fantasizing, except that it is somewhat addictive and a waste of time. I personally choose not too, but that doesn't mean you can't as long as you don't fantasize.
     
  16. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    "However, if you masturbate while having sexual fantasies, you are committing adultery in your heart, which the verse above condemns."

    What if they're fantasies about your spouse? o_O
     
  17. Abomb

    Abomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Out of marriage, I mean. If you are married, I see nothing against fantasizing and masturbating all you want.
     
  18. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Any married person who says that they absolutely don't fantasize sexually about anyone other than their partner is a liar.
     
  19. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    It's really ironic that masturbation is really an ability and a gift given from God, yet it's considered to be such a taboo.
     
  20. Jaden-Skywalker

    Jaden-Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No, you know.
     
  21. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I can see your point. However, that could really be said of anything a human being is physically capable of doing. And it's really little more than the "If God meant for humans to fly, he would've gave us wings" argument.

    Jaden: I think Abomb was responding to the original context of the thread. Which was a devout Christian user asking other Christians (and informed non-Christians) about the commonly accepted views on masturbation within traditional Christian teachings. As such, "we" probably refers to Christians, not to the population at large.
     
  22. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    I can't find the original post you quoted this from, so I don't really know the context, but God was mad at him because he told him to make a baby with his brother's widow(now his wife), and he didn't do it, not because he spilled it on the ground directly. Dude wasn't masturbating either, so I don't know how that is relevant to the conversation.
     
  23. Darth_OlsenTwins

    Darth_OlsenTwins Jedi Master star 5

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    There are still people around that think masturbation is wrong? Seriously?

    First, no flying cars. Now this.
     
  24. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I'm not going along with the "gift from God" stuff, but your analogy makes no sense. Humans require artificial constructs to fly; all masturbation takes is a hand.
     
  25. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Well call me an adultering infidel for I have a "date" with Charmane Star, Next Door Nikki, and Raven Riley.
     
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