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Is the Muppet episode considered canon?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by beafet, Oct 13, 2001.

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  1. beafet

    beafet Jedi Knight star 5

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    (read Star Wars insider #.... i forgot)
     
  2. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Everything is canon, except stuff with the Infinities label, or material in Star Wars Tales.
     
  3. beafet

    beafet Jedi Knight star 5

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    so, how did luke get to earth?
     
  4. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Yep.

    It turns out that the muppets are a long lost colony of Vong bio weapons.
     
  5. beafet

    beafet Jedi Knight star 5

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    umm....serious replies only....please.
     
  6. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That article in Insider is so funny. They have a side article called "Shooting Gonzo into the Canon," hehe, play at words. Anyway, its about trying to fit the episode into canon.

    Its funny, all the superanilization of elements. Like, how it probablt takes place before TESB because Luke is wearing a fresh version of the same fatigues he wears on Bespin. And how Luke probably wouldn't wear that outfit after TESB because of all the phycolical effects that Bespin had on him.

    It goes on into further detail about why they would come to "Earth." And how Chewie was captured by chickens from some planet in one skit on the show. And how, since that planet had been used in skits before Star Wars was written, that it is the first planet to be seen from the GFFA. And stuff about the evil Gonzo character being a student of Vader or something. Or a lesser, wannabe-Sith Dark Jedi.

    I think it fits. If we accept that "Earth" is a name of a planet in the GFFA where they have a muppet show. And then take all the skits that don't refer to actors and earthlike sequences and fit them into accually taking place somewhere else. Like the "Pigs in Space" skit. And Chewie being captured by the chickens on that one planet.
     
  7. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    that was a serious reply...

    They want to live in peace now.

    they didn't tell anyone about their origins because they didn't want o frighten anyone.
     
  8. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Thats pure rubish! You made that up. Back up your speculation! ;)
     
  9. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    Luke's Bespin fatigues are just common Alliance pilot coveralls ( see Rebel Alliance Sourcebook. )

    And no, it's not canon. That should be clear when Luke's "cousin" Mark Hamill comes out and they all sing "When You Wish Upon A Star".
     
  10. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Okay, thats obviously not. But what about the Pigs in Space skit alone?
     
  11. DarthLefty

    DarthLefty Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think they are just like EU: slightly below cannon. Kind of Apocyphal if you will. That's also my take on the Holiday Special and the Ewoks movie (both written BY Lucas, i might add).
     
  12. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Everything is canon.
     
  13. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Holiday special and the ewoks are actually considered to be higher than EU by LFL, according to couple of sources I read.
     
  14. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Way to go. Not the point. I hate it when that comes up. Sorry.
     
  15. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    Look...if the Muppet Show is canon...that means that the kid's books, such as the ones where Artoo and Threepio talk about Earth, geography, science, math and reading are all canon. ;) And that uses Earth references throughout, so while some could be canon, not all of it...The only things on the Muppet Show that could be canon are Luke, Chewie, Threepio and Artoo.

    And even then, seeing Threepio tap-dance ain't pretty.
     
  16. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No... not the way that I understand cannon... Please no....
     
  17. spicelord1

    spicelord1 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    What!? How could anyone even think this thing is canon? There is no way! It is a spoof. Something not to be taken seriously! Please no one try to put this in the timeline! please I beg of you. Don't!
     
  18. Ozzel

    Ozzel TF.N Foreign Book Covers Staff star 5 VIP

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    Come on, Bib, you can't be serious. Do you consider Chewie at the VMAs canon? How 'bout Darth Vader vs. the Energizer bunny? You have to draw the line somewhere.
     
  19. darthjarjarbinks

    darthjarjarbinks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "umm....serious replies only....please."

    I really don't think this is an issue that warrents serious replies or analytical discussion. It was a joke. It was the Muppets. I don't think it was ever intended to be insterted into the canonical star wars universe as we know it.

    Any conclusion to the contrary to me seems to be pedantic canonism and a waste of energy.
     
  20. Rogue_Starbuck

    Rogue_Starbuck Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmmm, what about when R2-D2 and C-3P0 visited Sesame Street??????

    "No R2, that is not a bantha, that is Snuffleupagus." :p
     
  21. darthjarjarbinks

    darthjarjarbinks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    exactly. Does that mean a 'grouch' is now a recognised species in star wars? Its not in any of my guides...
     
  22. Rogue_Starbuck

    Rogue_Starbuck Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Shimrra: "What have you shaped for me, Master Yim?"

    Nen Yim: "A truely magnificant creature, delivered to us by the Gods. It should spell the end of the infidels. We call it a 'Grouch'."

    Oscar: "I hate Jedi!" :p
     
  23. JediStryker

    JediStryker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "Everything is canon, except stuff with the Infinities label, or material in Star Wars Tales."

    Actually, most stuff is 'Official', not canon. I believe the only stuff that is canon are the movies and movies' novelizations. Even DE, which Lucas said he liked, is only official.
     
  24. Darth Pipes

    Darth Pipes Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No, it's not canon. Not even in the EU sense. It's closer to Infinities at best.
     
  25. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The indian in the cupboard is not canon, despite Vader's appearance. On the other hand, I consider E.T. to be canon because there is absolutely no reason that that species could not have survived and explored other galaxies in the long time since the movies.
     
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