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Is the Sun really hot?

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by The Gatherer, Feb 8, 2003.

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  1. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    Sure you just "forgot". Right. Did you also forget to post it in quotation marks, and italics? In fact, you didn't add anything to the article yourself. Not even a "Discuss". Oh wait, you created the title "Is the Sun really hot?". Good show. Bravo, ex-mod, Bravo.

    Given your post quality, I wouldn't throw stones if I were you.

    The Gatherer, on the other hand is one of the most respected members here on TF.N, I think I'll overlook this gaff for what it is- a simple mistake.

     
  2. lumberjedi

    lumberjedi Jedi Knight star 5

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    Any more mistakes and we'll have to kill him though. [face_plain] ;)

    All you need is love!
     
  3. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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  4. AssassinDroid21

    AssassinDroid21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, shut up people. Plagarism or not he never took credit for it so just get on topic.

    And I would get on topic but Im currently failing earth science so I think you dont want my opinion ;)
     
  5. Krayt_Wyrmrider

    Krayt_Wyrmrider Jedi Youngling star 2

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    okay here's something new for this thread: a post that's ON TOPIC [face_plain]

    right, this is a very interesting developement, The_Gatherer, thank you for bringing it up.

    some of the things in the article do have lot of weight and even though a lot is already known about the sun, there are still a lot of mysteries about it.

    but if this new model for the physics of stars is right, then how would you explain super/novas for example?

    novas, or supernovas, occur when a star can no longer be held together by the gravity of it's mass. when the gravity is overcome by the immense force of electromagnetic radiation being released from the core, the outer layers of the sphere are flung out and the star literally explodes.

    at least that's the old explanation. how could you explain it if there's cold fusion instead at the core?

    also, as stars get older they produce heavier elements in their nuclear reactions. this is where the universe's supply of heavier elements like carbon come from. i'm not too sure if heavier elements than helium can be produced from cold fusion. i'd like to hear more thoughts on this. Please discuss

    Where's VadersLaMent when you need him? ;)
     
  6. AssassinDroid21

    AssassinDroid21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    //completely confused after reading last post//

    God, Im an idiot.



    EDIT: I find it funny how almost everyone whos flaming The Gatherer is a Feb 03'er or Dec 02'er.
     
  7. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    I sent it to my chemistry prof, who is also an astrophysicist, and he said it was total crap.

    I'm going to pop into his office and talk to him about it and get more info from him.

     
  8. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Force Ghost star 7

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    If you are going to plagurize, make sure that it is correct.

    I think you mean Kelvins, not degrees Kelvins.
     
  9. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    Where, exactly, in the Gatherer's post does it he claim it's his words?

    What? WHAT? I can't hear you.

    Any moron can see he cut and pasted it from anoher article, so as for the Kelvins and degrees Kelvins, blame the author of the article, not him.

    Wow, way to pick those nits.

    Ffft!
     
  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Please stop the bashing. It's obviously an article, as K_N said. Give it a rest.

    I think that the article is very interesting, and a head-scratcher. 8-}
     
  11. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    General warning to everyone:
    If you don't have anything to add with regards to what is mentioned in the article, don't post.
     
  12. deepbluejedi

    deepbluejedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Gatherer, go touch the sun and come back and post your findings plz k thx....











    Yes....its hot. For more proof of this see : seasons, deserts...and anyone with a tan.
     
  13. Admiral_Thrawn60

    Admiral_Thrawn60 Jedi Youngling star 6

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    We're talking about the core of the sun, blue, not the surface. Please read the article before commenting.
     
  14. JediOverlord

    JediOverlord Jedi Knight star 5

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    If the core of the sun is cold,then it makes some sense how Superman could survive there for 100,000 years,like the DC One Million storyline has him doing.
     
  15. JADES_FIRE

    JADES_FIRE Jedi Master star 4

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    At the Sun's core,where hydrogen is converted into helium to produce energy,the temperature is about 15 million degrees Celsius and the pressure is 400,000 million times that of the Earth's atmosphere.

    Such conditions are necessary to sustain thermonuclear fusion at the heart of a star.

    Quote: The Sun is not a solid body,but is made up of several layers of gases. At the core,hydrogen fuses into helium at immense temperatures and pressures.

    (The temperature at its surface is about 6,000 degrees celsius.)

    And before some of you start whinging about plagiarism :mad: NO I did not write this article!

    Source: The Universe and the Earth by Neil Ardley,Ian Ridpath and Peter Harben. Published in 1979.

    This article believes that it is not only hot, but alot hotter at the core. :cool:
    (15 million degrees celsius at the core and only 6000 on the surface)

    I hope this helps. :D
     
  16. BoutyPunkrAurra

    BoutyPunkrAurra Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    actually, in theopry, if you flew a space**** right by the sun, the metal wouldnt even melt because the heat particles are so far apart.
     
  17. LetoQuorme

    LetoQuorme Mos Alba FF Chapter Rep star 4

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    What are we flying by the sun again, BoutyPunkrAurra? ;)
     
  18. Darth_OlsenTwins

    Darth_OlsenTwins Jedi Master star 5

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    actually, in theopry, if you flew a space**** right by the sun, the metal wouldnt even melt because the heat particles are so far apart.

    No. And things such as "heat particles" don't exist. Heat is a mode of energy transfer.
     
  19. deepbluejedi

    deepbluejedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    actually, in theopry, if you flew a space**** right by the sun

    Hmmm........that's an interesting theopry, as well as an interesting choice of words.
     
  20. Admiral_Thrawn60

    Admiral_Thrawn60 Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I think she means the heated molecules. True, they would be far apart and so not many would hit and transfer energy, but the ones that did hit your spaceship would transfer one hell of a lot of energy.
     
  21. ParanoidAni-droid

    ParanoidAni-droid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    actually, in theopry, if you flew a space**** right by the sun

    You can't imagine the mental image I had in my head after reading that.

    ~PAd

     
  22. Gorin_Zachian

    Gorin_Zachian Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Interesting yes, but i agree with one of the Baove posters.

    If this is true then how do things like Supernova's/Nova's happen, and how did or universe get it's heavier elements... ponder this i will...
     
  23. Jjanda_Solo

    Jjanda_Solo Jedi Master star 5

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    If this is true I can imagine some of the future's country songs...

    "Baby, you're like the sun... on the outside you look nice and hot, but your heart is cold as ice..."
     
  24. B'omarr

    B'omarr Jedi Master star 6

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    I like songs like this:

    "The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
    A gigantic nuclear furnace.
    Where hydrogen is melted into helium
    At a temperature of millions of degrees."
     
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