ST J.J. Abrams to direct and co-write Star Wars: Episode IX (see warning on page 34 before posting)

This news is basically a kick in the nuts and confirmation that for Kennedy only cares about $ and not story

 

All of those ideas sound much, much worse than what we had

 

I'll agree with the 'loves' part of it. He hasn't seen him in a long time and wants to hold his son one last time. But nothing in that means he forgives him necessarily.

 

Fair enough. My point was we needed more detailed incidents to feel like 30 years actually past. Even the Snoke stuff happened within the past 5 years of TFA, it feels like Han stagnated (still a smuggler) and Leia stagnated (never trained as a Jedi to the point Snoke doesn't see her as a threat).

 

Whether plenty of people are good with it or not is irrelevant. My point is that TFA doesn't feel like an Episode VII to me.

We clearly have to agree to disagree on the point.

 

I love TFA and I'm glad to see JJ back.

 

Well, after being stabbed, I would think the gesture implies forgiveness. I mean, that scene doesn't look like a "I love you, but **** you" kind of deal hahaha

I dont have kids, but a constant comment from parents, specially loving parents, is that no matter what happens, they will always love and forgive their sons/daughters

 

Not sure what the feel of a seventh episode actually is. I mean, its seventh. You cant get much more seventhy than that. In fact, its the only live action Star Wars film to actually be released as the same real world chronological order as its episode number

 

Starkiller Base 2 confirmed.

 

2015: TFA was great! Star Wars is back baby! Woo hoo!!!
2017: Ugh...they got that guy who did TFA to come back. Boo!



It's been apparent to me all year that we've been living in the upside down world and this just adds to it.

 

I doubt either of these scenarios will come to pass.

 

Once again, you've missed my point. Never mind.

 

One brief scene in 1st act would have accomplished this. A few extra lines could have been woven into the Poe/Kylo scenes to explain the Republic/First Order/Resistance situation better. Or a separate scene between Hux and Kylo to spell it out early on. Wouldn't have taken very long.

Hopefully with TLJ we get a bit more insight into what the Republic was/is now and what sort of position of power / or non-power the Resistance is in? I mean, Leia is a General leading the Resistance, but really we don't know what that means. Are there Republic generals and admirals who go "Oh look, Leia and her little group, cute!" Or are the Resistance forces the only organized military of the Republic?

Hux states that the Republic funds the Resistance, so now that the Republic has been wiped out, does that mean Leia and her group have no means to operate, no one else supporting them?

 

Well, if that's just a thing parents do, then it's not that big a deal for Han to do it.

That's not what I said. I was more like...

2015: TFA sucked. Hopefully Episode VIII will be better with a competent writer/director.
2017: Ugh...they got that guy who did TFA to come back. Boo!

 

Let me guess the internet has been something something lazy rehash. Something something lens flares.

I loved TFA so I'm very happy with this choice.

 

Link?

 

But does it need to be explained? Would mapping everything out in detail add anything to our understanding of our protagonists (who arguably know just as little as the audience does about that stuff) or their personal story? There's a lot to be said about leaving out the least important details and having a story that focuses in on the central characters. It's a subjective question, of course, and comes down to personal taste. For me, one of the main things that made the original Alien work was that there was no explanation whatsoever for the creature or the derelict ship with the eggs. It's just there, because that's all our protagonists know. It's mysterious.

In the original Star Wars we got a few references to the 'Evil Galactic Empire' that wiped out the 'Old Republic' and hunted down the 'Jedi' and that's basically all that Luke has to go on, in terms of figuring out where he fit. The argument has been made that it's jarring to go from six to seven and see that there's still Stormtroopers and Star Destroyers wreaking havoc, with very little explanation. I think it's worth remembering, though, that this is a new beginning in terms of whose story it is. It's now Rey, Kylo and Finn's story. We'll only be getting information that is relevant to our understanding of these characters, which is basically what happened in the OT. The PT was pretty unique in that it was told from a more in depth political understanding, because Palpatine was such a key player in that plotline.

I'm pretty happy with the selection of JJ to close out the trilogy. Not so much because I think he's a great writer or plotter, but because his framing and composition demonstrate a firm understanding of visual storytelling. He's got that Spielbergian knack for communicating things visually, of showing and not telling. TFA might not have had the most original story, but in terms of cinematic quality it delivered in spades for me personally. To be honest. In the end that's what I personally want out of a Star Wars film.

Your mileage may vary.

 

You forgot something something starkiller base 2. That's the most original complaint, I've only seen it about 30 times in the last few hours

 

Well, this is better than Trevorrow but still disappointing. I enjoyed The Force Awakens when it came out, and even defended it vigorously in the IMDB forum and other places, but my love for it has plunged since, and Rogue One, which delivered the Star Wars experience I had been waiting for since Return of the Jedi, just hastened its descent. As Arthur says in Boorman's Excalibur, "I did not know how empty my soul was until it was filled."

 

rip kylo ren redemption arc 2015-2017

 

Luke's appearance was the only thing I was waiting for, and Harrison Ford stole every scene he was in. I don't particularly care much for Finn, Rey or Poe. Rey is mildly interesting, but the other two parts of the main character triumvirate are dull journeymen, just numbers within their respective organisations to me. Neither are particularly standout.

The decision to make Luke the "Mcguffin" of TFA in the face of expectational pressures to feature the old gang all together again was quite brave, and with hindsight, correct.

 

ohhh, so that's what I missed while I lost my internet access, hmmmm Ok, I have a bad feeling for IX now.

 

"Low Budget"

 

SERIOUSLY so bummed about this. And to those saying don't worry JJ will go in a completely different direction than he did with TFA, I ask you to compare INTO DARKNESS to WRATH OF KHAN. JJ is making these SW films for one reason and one reason alone. Dollar Bills. He is a money machine and literally only does franchises for the guaranteed billion dollar franchise checks and lifetime residuals he makes.

 

JJ Abrams arguably was more instrumental in creating the wildly successful new characters (Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo Ren) than anyone else. Even those who had issues with TFA feeling same-y because of certain plot mechanics or callbacks or "lack of new planets/world-building" love the new characters as a general rule and are excited to see what Rian Johnson does with them, thanks to Abrams' writing, casting and direction. I'd say anyone who loves Star Wars is in a much more hopeful place about the final installment in the trilogy than we were two weeks ago with Colin Trevorrow in charge of writing and directing, or they should check their expectation bias.