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Jacen Solo's Five Year Sojourn

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jedi_Matt, Nov 22, 2006.

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  1. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As we well know, at the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War Jacen Solo went on a five year journey of self discovery, to satiate his own thirst for knowledge on all things Forcey. Nothing has yet been published for this timeframe, and I wonder...

    Why not?

    DNT and LotF series' aside, how did Jacen learn of the other Force users? Jensaarai and Witches of Dathomir aside.

    The Fallanassi's existence in both Luke Skywalker's personal debriefing and the Special Threats File on the events around the Black Fleet Crisis were deemed classified with 25 years jail time and a half a million credit fine for 'unauthorized receipt or review', and the last paragraph of the report filed by Lt. Pellna Gril of NRI Special Threats division recommended that their mere existence "remain a closely guarded secret", and they "can be regarded as a low-grade threat".

    With NRI sweeping the Fallanassi under the carpet, and effectively swearing Luke to secrecy by stamping his report with the classified label, was Jacen's knowledge as a result of a faux pas by Uncle Luke, a family secret, or the kind of info that could be found in standard Jedi Order Text Books?

    As for the Aing-Tii Monks, I presume he went to Exocron in search of Jorj Car'das for where they could be found. Luke/Mara would probably be the source of that info, as for the Aing-Tii's willingness to teach him, it kind of surprises me that they would. By their behaviour they seem to keep themselves to themselves in the Kathol Rift, the aid they gave to Car'das seems to be a bit 'out of character' too, although all I've got to go on for that is his Wookieepedia entry.

    The Theran Whisperers are a group I know too little of to comment on.


    Why risk raising these questions only to leave them unanswered? It's like Jimmy's prophecy all over again, some sort of Pandora's box I guess.

    TJK puts Jacen together with Akanah, I take it that with the loss of NRI following the events of SbS, the data on the Fallanassi was less 'hot' and Luke told him where she could be found, and how to contact her, unless Luke gave him co-ordinates at which he stood and shouted 'I am Nashira's grandson' until she brought herself out of immersion and slapped him in the face.

    As for finding the groups, that's just scratching the surface.

    How about the Jensaarai? Are they flourishing? do they still have the current Saarai-kaar? What was their response to Kelbis Nu's death? What further roll did they play in the Vong War? What contact (if any) have they had with Lumiya, Lomi, Welk, Vongarella, Vergere?

    What did the Fallanassi do during the Vong war? Does their immersion work even when you take into account the Vong's lack of the Force? I figure it would but do we know canonically one way or another?

    Did the Aing-Tii take on any Vong during the war? They're very anti-slavery, and the Vong presence would probably coerce them into action of some sort, their teleportation ability could have provided huge benefits for Luke's Great River too.

    Without creating a fanfic, I am hoping to provoke some discussion about this time, and gather whatever information we can into one thread. I don't think it's been done already, and I don't know what else we can gather together that hasn't already been entered into wookieepedia, maybe it'd prompt Dark Horse or Del Rey into doing something about it, an article in Insider, or Hyperspace stuff, probably nothing, but considering his path since the NJO, it's surely worth exploring.
     
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  2. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Chosen One star 5

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    Out of pure interest, I have confirmation from Leland Chee at the official site that it was actually a six-year journey, despite Jacen's claims of five in The Joiner King. Chee's insistence that NJO hardcovers take place at the beginning of the calendar year places The Unifying Force at 29 ABY unquestionably, with The Joiner King six years later.

    Personally, I find Jacen's five-year sojourn to be the most interesting concept that the EU has come up with. The fact that it's shrouded in mystery is all the better, and the few hints that were dropped in Dark Nest made it all the more tantalizing. I only hope that it's not forgotten about for the remainder of Legacy of the Force. It did, though, seem to set the basis for Jacen's decision to learn from Lumiya --- that is, his desire to learn as many different aspects of the Force as he could.

    As far as tracking down the Fallanassi goes, I imagine that Jacen started at J'T'P'Tan and followed the clues, listening to spacers's tales, following rumours, reaching a lot of dead ends --- after all, he does tell Tenel Ka in The Joiner King that there was a lot of travel time.

    Again, though, I find that this tale of Jacen's history being shrouded in mystery makes it all the more tantalizing.
     
  3. Kaje

    Kaje Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm still holding out hope that the unknown Feb. 2008 hardcover will cover Jacen's journey. By Stover.
     
  4. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I had really hoped that some of these other groups would have been brought together to form a united front to fight the Vong. I had thought they were hinting at a Vong / Aing Tii connection when they mentioned how their ships were similar.

    I was hoping for a Babylon Five - style massive fleet of the united GFFA standing up against the Vong. After all, what better way to unite the disparate peoples of the Galaxy than a common foe.
     
  5. fuzzyjedi

    fuzzyjedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    [face_praying] oh god please.
     
  6. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He hung out a lot and learned Force powers. Leave it alone and go with something we don't already know.
     
  7. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    White Currenters can can Microsoft Word inside substances, so Skywalker could have taught his neph to follow the hidden holo trail. ;)
     
  8. kttch809

    kttch809 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Having a book written about Jacen's journey would be OK, if done right. Perhaps a journal.

    However, I'd be satisfied with the current arc "looking back" upon any critical encounters or lessons that he had learned so long as it's relevant to the plotline.
     
  9. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is there some kind of babelfish plug in to translate Excellence into something I can understand? Sometimes it feels like I'm reading a post by Nihilus or something.
     
  10. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    A few short stories, maybe, but I would hate to impose a plot on it. Basically, he studied for a while, which is cool. No crisis. No mystery to solve. Just...learning.
    I like the way it's being dealt with. We keep getting bits and pieces of what he's learned, all the while hinting that there's something he doesn't want to think about.
     
  11. Kaje

    Kaje Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sounds like a great novel to me.
     
  12. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    A novel needs a plot, even if it's not about fighting. Jacen just pursuing his studies is not a plot unto itself.

    Perhaps some very specific aspect of his training...?
     
  13. NJOfan215

    NJOfan215 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I wouldn't mind seeing a book about this, but i think it should wait untill legacy of the force is finished.
     
  14. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Good idea. That way they know wher he ends up, so they can figure out how to develop it. Kind of prequel style.
     
  15. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I would like to see SOMETHING about this. A novel preferably, a short comic series would be good too, but at least some mentions or recollections on the part of Jacen in the LotF. As I see it, Jacen was corrupted during his tour. The Jacen we meet in TJK is not the same person anymore we saw in TUF - he has changed. Something must have happened to him. And I would like to know what.
     
  16. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    He was corrupted in NJO. He's just further gone in TJK.
     
  17. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I never liked Cern from Shadows of Amn, but I can make allowances here. Lets do some translating . . .

    White Currenters can can Microsoft Word inside substances, so Skywalker could have taught his neph to follow the hidden holo trail.

    Fallanassi are empowered by the White Current. Microsoft Word is a program for writting messages. They can write messages inside substances like solid walls. Skywalker had some practice in squinting through them to see. His neph was his apprentice. Could be neph went to that settlement we last saw them on, spotted some ink.

    Have I drawn enough dots for you? Put on a Circlet of Saresh!
     
  18. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    LOL

    yeah... they can leave messages in the Force permanently, but you need to learn how to read them from a Fallanassi, it's not like being able to see a force ghost or something.

    I agree with BobaMatt in that a Novel on it might be a bit hard to do, a big e-book could be good though, seeing as the ones during the NJO were sort of a chapter in size. Heck... with the Saga edition of the RPG coming out next year, it'd be sweet if the Force user sourcebook was done from his perspective, in a way that Cracken's Threat dossier was done by NRI, and a collection of intel reports, this could benefit in the same way.

    Now something had changed in him in TUF, but he was no way near pressing the dark side buttons to the extent that he was in the killik crisis, so what did happen? He piled on arrogance in spades, was it his state during the fight with Onimi that made him think that because of that, he was above anyone else?

     
  19. Winged_Jedi

    Winged_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm pretty sure it was. It says right there that he would try the rest of his lifetime to achieve that state again, so I guess this was partly the reason for the big journey he took afterwards.
     
  20. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    QFT
     
  21. DarthNidLoc

    DarthNidLoc Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Don't worry Cern you eventually won't need translation it takes some time to get used to Ex's unique writing style but with time and a good helping of Dr. Who episodes you will begin to understand. At least thats what happened with me. Ex, thank for introducing me, a poor dumb American to the Doctor.
     
  22. Trayus

    Trayus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This is precisely why Malachor V should have survived KOTOR II. It is/was the mother of all locations for twisting Force users.

    Unless, of course, there are other places like Malachor V, at the edge of the Known Regions, that Jacen could have stumbled on...
     
  23. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    hasn't it been quite heavily implied that he went to Ziost? I think it was something to do with those tassles from Betrayal. That quite possibly would have done some nice twisting
     
  24. Darth_Angle

    Darth_Angle Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I thought that IIRC Jacen also mentions Ziost when he sees Darth Vectivus' home on the astroid, something like hoe unsithy it is compared to Ziost.

    On the subject of the Aing-Tii someone mentioned B5 and since I saw them in the HoT books I thought Vorlon. If they taught Jacen Flow-walking I wonder what they didn't teach him.
     
  25. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    The Doctor is awesome. The world owes a debt to the Brits.
     
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