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Jack Thompson Vs 14 years old on Video gaming.

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by JediMaster22, Nov 3, 2005.

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  1. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    This guy... Jack Thompson is a real Nutcase.

    He is SO anti-gaming, he blame games for everything wrong with this society. What a jerk, or idiot! [face_plain]

    While this 14-YO seem respectable. Jack Thompson, was NOT.





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    14 YO: I found a link to your site, www.stopkill.com, through an online forum. I looked over it, and although I think that there is some genuine concern over the effect of violent media on kids, many of your statements on that site were made in ignorance. What I plan to do in this email is to help you gain a better understanding of video games, and to show you that while your intentions are good, your current course of action is a mistake. I'm going to present my arguments calmly and logically, and you're welcome to write a rebuttal if you wish. First off, let me tell you a little about myself. I'm 14, and I've been playing video games avidly since I was 8. I'm pretty knowledgeable about the subject of video games as a whole, and I've played my fair share of Halo 2 and other shooters, including the Ghost Recon series, which is regarded as one of the most realistic FPSs (first-person shooters, in case you aren't familiar with the terminology). I also enjoy strategy games, in which the death toll is often far higher than what you'd encounter in a FPS. I'm an archer, a martial artist (Tae Kwon Do), and I was taught how to operate a gun by my grandfather, who's an experienced hunter. And, oddly enough, I've never felt the urge to kill, or even seriously injure, anyone. I imagine that killing in self-defence would be extremely difficult for me, despite my alleged desensitization. Now I'd like to dismiss a misonception (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and not assuming that you're twisting the truth) you have about games like Halo, which are called FPSs. These are not "sniper games." They are games presented in first person, in which you shoot enemies, manage ammunition, and explore levels. You may fail to see the distinction between "sniper" and "first person" based on that description alone, but if you ever take the time to play any of these games, you'll understand that there is no comparison between playing a FPS and operating a rifle. Which brings me to my next point- games can't accurately "train" you to commit violent acts, despite your claims. First off, games are innacurate by their very nature, and they give you less practical knowledge on operating firearms than watching a few hours of History Channel would. Secondly, I'm going to walk you through a typical scenario of me playing Halo 2, which is probably the best FPS available right now1) I rotate the right control stick slightly, then hold down the right trigger. There is no violent intent towards my enemy, wether it's an AI-controlled bot or a human opponent I'm facing online- it's a simple challenge in the case of the former and a friendly competition in the case of the latter.(2) On screen, a series of polygons which emulate bullet trails appear. Those polygons collide with the polygons rendered to represent my enemy, and those same polygons then emulate my opponent dying.The important distinction here is that there is no gun, no bullets, and no enemy. There is a rotation of the control stick and a pull of the controller's trigger, resulting in a change of the onscreen display. Anyone who can't see the difference between this and the act of firing a gun at a human being is clearly unfit to be playing these games and, frankly, is an idiot. Which, once again, leads me to the next point I'm going to make. No one in their right mind would ever do the things that you blame on video games. A quick glance at such actions shows that there are far bigger, far more serious causes than violent media behind them. Now, you may wonder, "Why would someone kill a person in a video game if they think it's wrong to do in real life?" Well, the truth is, no one gets hurt when you kill a video game character. There are corporeal consequences to commiting acts of violence on real living things, but the difference is that real living things
     
  2. Three-Eight

    Three-Eight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mar 28, 2005
    Jack Thompson Pwnd...
     
  3. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well, considering the FBI already has a squad for porn, why not a squad for these eeeevil games as well?

    And in the meantime, Bin Laden can sit back, relax, and plan more terrorist attacks. Well done!

    :p
     
  4. Cobranaconda

    Cobranaconda Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He's pwned himself, as the UK doesn't even have an "M" rating. We use the PEGI system (3+, 8+, 12+, 16+, 18+), and it really isn't that hard for a 9 year old to get 18 games.
     
  5. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    Jul 12, 2005
    [face_laugh] Mr. Thompson is a moron, I doubt he will get anywhere with his "Senator friends" since it is proven that he cannot even handle the disenting arguement of a 14 year old. What a idiot.
     
  6. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    He got Banned from NIMF too... http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=10830
     
  7. Lord_Coras

    Lord_Coras Jedi Knight star 5

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    I love this:

    Jack Thompson wrote:
    check into the nearest mental health facility



    He has absolutely no debating skills and resorts to juvenile name calling. And this is a lawyer.
     
  8. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    Jack Thompson is the ONE who needs to check into Mental facility.

    God, I have played Video games ever since the 80s, and I have Never the urge to kill anyone or beat anyone up like Mortal Kombat! Stupid people like him really Sickens me!!! [face_sick]
     
  9. Anakin_Sockwalker

    Anakin_Sockwalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jun 11, 2005
    Jack Thompson will regret it when the zombie invasion comes and no teenager will know how to take care of situation. :p
     
  10. kenwastinger

    kenwastinger Jedi Master star 5

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    Mar 29, 2004
    Just the other day I blew up a crate with my grenade launcher. I was shocked to find body armor, and a piece of meat.

    I ate the meat, and immediatly felt better. Now, where is that Fully Auto Gatling gun?

    Ah, there is at the top of the stairs in my office.

    Should have thought to look there.j
     
  11. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    Wait...is this the Jack Thompson we're talking about?

    [image=http://gwiezdne-wojny.pl/grafika/sty2002/SWinsider58-23.jpg]
     
  12. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    Perhaps poor Mr Thompson just needs a hobby, he seems to have a lot of time to waste on crusading against video games.
     
  13. TheBoogieMan

    TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No. I made the same mistake a while ago. Apparently he's some nut who wants to ban shooting games. I think.
     
  14. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 7

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    He's an absolute fruitcake.



    It's generally considered that the people who go out and do the shootings and blame games like Doom etc are usually tapped in the head anyway and use games as an easy excuse.



    He should look more into reason behind people feel the need to go out and do these things.

    Is it because of soft gun laws?
    Lack of local entertainment?
    Poor parental skills?
    No parents as they have to work all the hours they can just to stay above water?

    Or a combination of them all.



    It is possible that games do have an adverse effect on some people but to state it effects everyone is both crass an uneducated.
     
  15. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/21952715/

    http://boards.theforce.net/games_board_and_videogames/b10005/21944081/p1/?51
     
  16. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah and what's really funny is that he got owned by someone who doesn't even shave.

    [face_laugh]
     
  17. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    Thanks.

    Yeah, NObody likes him!
     
  18. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yeah, NObody likes him!

    I'm sure Mr Thompson receives support from idiots who also advocate burning fantasy books and banning any movie other than 'Passion of the Christ' and 'Left Behind'.

    :p
     
  19. darth_grievous1

    darth_grievous1 Jedi Master star 5

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    Heh. Maybe I need to give this man an e-mail.
     
  20. Leonard_Shelby

    Leonard_Shelby Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    May 31, 2002
    You're the fourteen-year-old, aren't you, JM22?
     
  21. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Nov 8, 2004
    LOL! Yeah probably. I propose that we start a a cheap hit man fund to rid ourselvs of Jack Thompson. Who's interested?

    :p
     
  22. Indiana_Fett

    Indiana_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dec 12, 2004
    Just find a guy who plays CS:Source.
    [image=http://iluvu.free.fr/wordpress/images/counter%20strike%20source.JPG]
     
  23. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Now why didn't I think of that? :oops: Afterall its a well know fact that all gamers crack shots with sniper rifles. :p
     
  24. HawkNC

    HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oct 23, 2001
    Yeah, but anyone who plays CS:S hax, so they're no good.
     
  25. Indiana_Fett

    Indiana_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No it's cool, now they can run up to Thompson super-fast, while glowing, with 200 shield and just knife him! HUMILIATION!
     
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