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Jedi Council is replica of Ireland's Trinity College Long Room?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by CieSharp, Nov 7, 2002.

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  1. CieSharp

    CieSharp Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No doubt, all of you have seen the news on TFN about how Trinity College is considering suing Lucasfilm because the Jedi Archives looks hauntingly similar to Trinity College's Long Room.

    Well folks, I just found this bit of news from irish-architecture.com, and lo and behold, they look very very similar, right down to the busts lining the halls. The only difference besides the color tons is that the Jedi Archives seem to have several small windows at the end of the hall. Check it out for yourself:

    Jedi Archives=Trinity College Long Room
     
  2. RidingMyCarousel

    RidingMyCarousel Jedi Master star 6

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    Whoa [face_shocked]

    That's incredibly interesting :)
    Now, if I go buy a plane ticket out there and visit, I could say I've been to the Jedi Archives ;)

    Makes me wonder how they replicated it so well on the set. Then again, Lucas has some great architecture people on his crew :)
     
  3. Talz

    Talz Jedi Youngling star 1

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    From the article:

    According to a recent report in the Sunday Independent, spokespeople for George Lucas have stated that "It is totally untrue that there is any connection between the scene in Attack of the Clones and Trinity College.

    What!?! They aren't going to fool anyone with that argument.
     
  4. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    From the article:

    According to a recent report in the Sunday Independent, spokespeople for George Lucas have stated that "It is totally untrue that there is any connection between the scene in Attack of the Clones and Trinity College."

    So, the image shown on the link was produced by Guy Lagacé. Did this guy work on AOTC? If he didn't, has he produced a faithful rendering of the library? Because if he did then I'm amazed at the statement these "spokespeople" have made.
     
  5. Gay-LenKenobi

    Gay-LenKenobi Jedi Knight star 5

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    Clearly those are both drawings. And who ever did it drew one first, then redid the coloring for the second image. Of course they are going to look similar when they are are the same picture. [face_plain]


    And how many libraries have long hallways of books with desks down the middle? Please.
     
  6. DarthTerrious

    DarthTerrious Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well I thought this was already common knowledge?

    Though Lucasfilm deny it, the Trinity College Long room is an influence.

    Didnt we hear about this from cinescape before the film came out? ?[face_plain]

     
  7. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    And how many libraries have long hallways of books with desks down the middle? Please.

    That's not the point. The point is, how accurate are the drawings? I'd like to see a still from the film, if anyone could post it, because I can see what the Trinity college library looks like already.

    Editted to add: Found a picture of the Jedi library on the offical SW site, but my link skills are lousy, so I'll just post the address for you to copy and paste:


    http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/jediarchives/index_bts.html

    All together now: "Hmmmmm....."
     
  8. Admiral_Thrawn60

    Admiral_Thrawn60 Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Why should they care if the library looks like the Long Room? Obviously it shows Lucas was impressed by the design, and it gives the Long Room publicity.
     
  9. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Why should they care if the library looks like the Long Room?

    Well, I care because, apparently, spokespeople for GL have denied it, which seems a bit strange considering the fairly obvious similarity.
     
  10. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We actually had a thread on this waaaaay back, before the lawsuit... it'd be great to see that again...




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  11. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  12. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There is a (tiny) thread called "I have found the real Jedi Archives!!!" that I found by typing Trinity college library into the search feature, but (once again) my link skills are rubbish. Could someone post the link, as there is a good still taken from the actual film on there.
     
  13. Joey7F

    Joey7F Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There are lots of libraries with very tall bookshelves. What makes this different is that it also has the vaulted ceiling.

    They are eerily similar, but I would not totally rule out the coincidence possibility.

    There is also a possibility that they were influenced by it without knowing it. I have seen that long room before, but I did not know where it existed.

    --Joey
     
  14. sydonius

    sydonius Jedi Master star 1

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    I agree with admiral_thrawn 60.

    StarWars is so full of stuff that lucas has.......er.........borrowed from other films, comics, books, etc.. It doesnt bother me. Most of the time I dont even notice until its pointed out. But to me, it does seem strange that a college would want to sue over something that totally gives them such enormous publicity. Of course, if they are anything like the college I went to, they are thinking, "CHA-CHING!!!!"
     
  15. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yeah, Universities are run by greedy mofo's and I wouldn't be surprised if they owned GL by the time the lawsuits over. The two sides will probably settle out of court for an undisclosed amount, also referred to as a sh^t load of money.

    I don't see the big deal.

    The Jedi council main room has a bunch of windows and so does my inclosed porch. I can sit there and watch cars drive by and everything. My dog even looks like the love child of Yoda and Oppo Rancis, and he has a little chair he sits in too. Coincidence? I think not. I'm filing a lawsuit against GL!
     
  16. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The Jedi council main room has a bunch of windows and so does my inclosed porch. I can sit there and watch cars drive by and everything. My dog even looks like the love child of Yoda and Oppo Rancis, and he has a little chair he sits in too. Coincidence? I think not. I'm filing a lawsuit against GL!


    MobartZmuda, have you actually tried looking at some of the pictures in the links on this thread, or the "real jedi archive" thread? We're not talking about some vague similarity here. Nobody is saying "They both have books and windows! Lets sue!" Look at the roof, the aisles, the shelving, the arrangement of the plinths...they are eerily similiar.
     
  17. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The library at my University also looks somewhat like the two. It's not that big of deal.
     
  18. SWfan2002

    SWfan2002 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Exactly, I'm sure that many libraries across the world are similiar to the one at Trinity College. If they are going to sue Lucasfilm then they should sue all of the 100's or 1,000's of similiar libraries too.

    I think this is just a publicity stunt or a character assasination attempt. Someone at Trinity College is probably a big SM or LOTR fan and can't accept the fact that SW is right up there with the best of them.

    Mark my words, this case is going nowhere. It won't even make it to trial.
     
  19. JenX

    JenX Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think this is just a publicity stunt or a character assasination attempt. Someone at Trinity College is probably a big SM or LOTR fan and can't accept the fact that SW is right up there with the best of them.

    Oh come on! Thats a joke, right? Don't tell me that the anti SW conspiracy has now extended to the Irish education system too???

    I want some pictures of the hundreds/thousands of similar libraries. Actually I wouldn't mind seeing one picture of one library that shares as many similarities. What university do you go to again, MobartZmuda?
     
  20. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

    What a bunch of fu****g wanks! Similiar architecture and a lawsuit?! They should be impressed Lucas thought enough of their library to draw inspiration from it.

    And it is very similiar folks. I've seen pics from the upper tier of the Trinity library. One of the main differences however is the far wall and the glass decor.

    This whole thing is silly. A lawsuit over architecture?!

    No wonder Ireland still lies in the stone age. Look at what their institutions of "higher learning" are preoccupied with.

    Dumbasses. Have a pint and shut up!
     
  21. SWfan2002

    SWfan2002 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh come on! Thats a joke, right?

    You catch on pretty quick. ;)
     
  22. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Has anyone here actually ever been to Trinity College?

    I'm gonna take this with a handful of salt.

    EDIT: This thread shuld be locked, take discussions here:

    I've found the real life Jedi Archives
     
  23. BlackPool

    BlackPool Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    See now this is what ticks me off about the prequal trilogy design. First we get the Queen's ship that is nearly a direct copy of an air force plane, then we get the other naboo ship which also directly rips off an airforce plane (even sounded like a plane) the gunships=Russian attack choppers, and so on and now we get a library that rips off guess what? A friggen librarly!! It should be obvious by now that Ralph McQuarrie, Nilo Rodis Jamero and Joe Johnston were to the TRUE visionaries of the LOOK of the Star Wars universe.

    But what REALLY ticks me is Lucas and his yes men at Lucasfilm think they can insult our intellegence by denying it. They are as good at spinning the truth as they are at starship and library designs. [face_plain]

    By the way, a lawsuit over such a thing IS INDEED frivolous. Basically the whole situation is messed up!
     
  24. MobartZmuda

    MobartZmuda Jedi Padawan star 4

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    JenX , I go to UF. The Law Library and Smathers West Library (2nd and 3rd floor) look somewhat similiar, they just have a complete divider between floors and there aren't any statues. If you want to find a pic, go to ufl.edu, I'm sure you'll find one there.
     
  25. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    If this were any sort of B-flick, they'd never care. Quite a chunk of change to be made from the most successful series of films in cinematic history.
     
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