Lit Jedi Order size across eras

I know it has been stated that the Jedi Order was roughly 10,000 in number around the time of the prequels, and I have seen estimates that break that down into percentages and ratios of Knights to Masters, Padawans to knights, etc. What I am curious about is if there has every been any hint at the size of the Order during the other eras of Legends content. Specifically the size of the Je'daii Order, the Order during the fall of Ossus, the KOTOR-TOR eras, and the New Sith Wars. Were all Jedi fighting during the TOR war with the Sith like in the Clone Wars, or were there still others doing their normal Jedi work while the war went on? If I have missed this information anywhere, I am hoping someone here can fill me in!

 

I've always thought that 10,000 was to few a number for when the Jedi are supposedly at their peak.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if 10,000 was always the cap. There needs to be a cap at some point and 10,000 is a good number. OOU deciding on that number was likely a shout out to the Spartans.

 

In Dark Lords of the Sith, there are ten thousand Jedi on Deneba alone during the meeting there before the Krath attack.

Yoda in Labyrinth of Evil mentions that a thousand Masters have lost their padawans and a thousand padawans have lost their Masters during the war, which would imply at least 2000 Jedi were killed fighting alone.

I know I used to see places say around the time of AOTC, that the Jedi had shrunk from the 10,000 of TPM to 8000, but I've never seen a source for why that seemingly kept coming up, does anyone know?

 

I don't remember where I got this, but I do seem to recall reading that the 10,000 in Episode I were an abnormally low number compared to what it used to be, and that this was contributing to the unease in the galaxy (too few Jedi to help settle things down).

 

You mean the Persians, right?

 

No I believe there were 10,000 spartans as well. At least according to the documentaries I have seen.

 

not 300? lol


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Nope propaganda.

 

No 300 was just all they were willing to spare to help all the other Greek nations out.

 

What about in the era of Xendor-and immediately previous? Back to the beginning of the republic and down to the beginning of the hundred's years war.

 

There were definitely several thousand Greeks present at Thermopylae, but if they were going to do a shout-out to the Spartans, 300 would be a more likely number to use. I'm just gonna go with "ten thousand is a nice, relatively big number, so let's run with that."

 

What about Post-KOTORII, or are you counting that as under Jedi Civil War?

 

Seems accurate, especially since KOTOR2 doesn't bring up what happens to the remnants of the Coruscant Temple Jedi in hiding, just that they're 'not on Coruscant' as well as other branches like the Corellian Jedi which would've gone through that purge fine under Republic protection. KOTOR2 tries to paint it as if its you, your crew, and 3 Councillors, but your take seems more realistic.

 

Considering, that by the time of TPM the Republic rules most of the galaxy and Midiclorian-tests are supposed to be performed at birth 10,000 seems to be the upper limit for the number of Force-sensitives the galaxy produces (this number does not include younglings and padawans, but assumes, that there are just enough to replace losses due to age and death on missions).

Also considering, that the Republic was smaller in times past we can also assume, that the number of Jedi would have been smaller, since the Jedi-Order had a much smaller base to draw from. If there are comparable numbers to the Jedi of the TPM-era, it would be because those older incarnations of the Order were less restrictive in who they trained (for example the old Order might not restricted itself to training infants and they might also have recruited at the bottom of the barrel. I'm looking at you Darovit http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darovit .

 

They were training adults and one Master could have had more than one Apprentice in the old times, so no, the standards weren't higher. Although that could be owned at times to the desperate circumstances (see Darovit again).

 

Well if you recall in the post-Ruusan era-the Jedi forbade romantic attachments and marriages, and started their policy of baby snatching. In earlier times they were far more lenient in who they accepted-hence probably having a higher base from which to draw. However the Sith also had access to that base.

Not everyone's connection to the force is equal-someone like Danni Quee only has a mild connection at best, the skysolo clan has an incredibly high connection to the force, I would say also beings like Palpatine, Revan, Kyp Durron, A'sharad Hett, Tholme, among others if not equal to the skywalkers were pretty close overall. Though the average Jedi/ Sith is not that powerful, also recall at the end of the new Sith wars the Jedi were using child soldiers to fight their battles-so yeah standards were a lot lower.

 

Are you saying standard's or number's were lower?

 

Well that's just what I was saying.