Rogue One Jimmy Smits (Bail Organa) in Rogue One

Maybe he's in the movie because he appeared SW: Rebels. Disney are so desperate to reference their own works. Although ultimately Bail Organa will never be their character.

That's rebellion era or dark times era by the old EU standards.

Covering all eras was Dark Horse comics specialty.

 

Seriously? So were Leia, Threepio and Artoo only in TFA as a nod to Rebels?

 

I'm not talking about OT characters and TFA. Why not use this movie as an opportunity to tie in from their own works? I think they are putting Bail Organa in this movie with SW: Rebels in mind.

 

no they aren't.

 

He's here because it's been long-established (as in, since the original film back in 1977) that he was a member of the Rebel Alliance and that Leia was working with/for him in the whole "stealing the DS plans" thing. This was back before he even had a name, he was just "Leia's father." So if you can fit him in, then it makes all the sense in the world to include him here.

 

What if Bail Organa references SWR at some point in Rogue One?

 

goodbye.

 

Organa appearing in Rogue One is, as Thrawn082 notes, a nod to ANH, if anything. And given that Rebels, TCW, Rogue One, AOTC and ROTS are all prequels to ANH, it's not that surprising that Organa pops up in all of them.

Smits being cast as Organa, however, is a callback to AOTC and ROTS. I don't see how you can argue otherwise.

Edit: And if you want to say that it's actually a reference to his likeness being used in Rebels, well, what was that use in Rebels a reference to?

 

What a troll. Anyway, I found this fanart online (unknown creator), and I couldn't help but imagining a scene like this in Rogue One afterall (even though it would take away too much from the plot):

 

I'm not arguing, I'm speculating. I hope you're right. Let's end this discussion.

 

"Hey, senators, do you watch Star Wars Rebels? Anyone? It's a pretty good show, come on!"

 

I wonder could they do this scene with Leia being a hologram like in ANH, it would mean a far less detailed effect to de-age Carrie Fisher if they could use extra footage from ANH and try to blend it with new dialogue.

BAIL: My daughter I have an important task for you...it's so important that that if we fail it could spell our destruction.

LEIA: (hologram) Of course father whatever you ask you know i'll do in the name of the Rebellion.

BAIL: I'm sending you the coordinates for a rendezvous with a rebel espionage team, they have retrieved the plans for the Emperor's superweapon.

LEIA: The Rebellion needn't worry father, where do I deliver the plans, to Alderaan or our base on Yavin Four?

BAIL: Neither...well not first. I want you to proceed to the Tatooine system.

LEIA: Tatooine...but that's just a dust ball planet...

BAIL: On Tatooine you must locate a friend of mine, General Obi-Wan Kenobi, he'll know how best to use these plans.

BAIL: May the Force be with you my daughter.

 

I'd always hoped he would be.

Rogue One to me just feels like the true Episode 3, and seems like it will be the sequeway between the PT and OT that was sorely lacking

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Yup. I'm hoping Rogue One can alleviate that sense of missed opportunity.

 

Hey wouldn't Bail Organa have been killed when the Emperor "dissolved" the Imperial Senate? That was before Alderaan was destroyed.

 

A scene where a big vat of acid is poured over the Senate might suit the tone of Rogue One.

 

Well... I know it was dumb, but if you weren't cracking a dumb gag of your own, then the fact the Senate is dissolved does not mean everyone is dead.

(Argh. Stepping into the dangerous territory of Internet seriousness and humour)

 

It depends:

-Was he on Curoscant at the time? I could see Sheev waiting until many powerful Senators are off doing other things to make his move.
-Sheev wouldn't necessarily have to have them killed as their political power would be gone. Mon Mothma wasn't killed either obviously.
-If Tarkin informed him that he was thinking of targeting Alderaan with the DS, then Sheev might have felt like Tarkin would be doing that job for him. And Sheev didn't like to get his own hands dirty unless he absolutely had to.
-Etc.

 

Well wait, do we know that Bail Organa was an active Senator at the time of Rogue One? I assumed he was retired from official duty in the senate though obviously still a powerful figure on Aldreraan and helping support the growing Rebellion in secret. Leia tells Vader she's a member of the Imperial Senate in ANH, so she's who represents Alderaan in the Senate, correct? Would she and her father both serve as Senators at the same time? I doubt it.

 

As far as I know, Bail wasn't an active member of the Senate during ANH, and no, Palpatine just dissolved the Senate. He didn't murder the senators.

 

Will any character (even background) from TFA make a cameo in Rogue One? If so, then RO will be the ultimate "bridge film" connecting the PT, OT and ST...Would be cool to see One of the aliens from Maz's Castle for 2 seconds in RO. Maybe Captain Ithano:

 

Leia was Bail's representative in the Imperial Senate in the old EU, I don't know if that's carried over?

The easiest answer would be that when the Emperor dissolved the senate Bail returned to Alderaan just in time to get blown to smithereens, with being on the senate and what was said in the end of ROTS it would seem likely that he was pretending to be pro-Palps. So while less favourable senators would be killed when the Emperor dissolves the senate, Bail may have still sworn his loyalty to Palps and merely returned home.

Palps probably suspected but never had proof until Leia was captured trying to get the stolen plans and Obi-Wan to the Rebellion, as soon as he had Leia they would've been convinced Bail was secretly betraying them.

 

There are so many great tidbits from the EU between Leia and Bail, such as this one below. I can't see them not using any of these.