ST John Boyega (Finn) in the ST

Suppose the movie goes complete opposite of what you said about Finn. Will you be upset?

 

Don't get me wrong. Finn is still a vital and important character, and apart of the core trio. He's the main male protagonist and is on his own character arc. Star Wars movies are all about development.

Just look at Luke's personality in ANH compared to RotJ. John has praised the 8 script multiple times and is aware that many people felt let down by Finn's portrayal, and he's assured us more than once that Finn "ain't playing no more", and that Finn goes on a nice journey in VIII. These all give me hope, and I'm remaining relatively positive about this.

We know that VIII is supposed to "go deeper into the characters," so I expect the trio to remain separated for most of the movie. This gives Rey, Poe, and especially Finn their own time for development. Especially if he and Maz happen to cross paths once more.

 

I agree, and I don't buy that RJ/LFL creative group for Star Wars would need to use The Hunger Games as a template.

 

What about Ron Weasley or Samwise Gamgee?

The character with a good heart and is a good friend to the Lead, but ultimately is less skilled than everyone of his peers?

 

Do they have their own toy doll?

 

*sniff*
We're back to comparing him to Ron Weasly, Samwise and Peeta.
*sniff*

Maybe in Episode VIII, Poe can start referring to Finn as "Little Buddy",
like the Skipper used to refer to Gilligan.

 

Finn is the most likely to evolve. The way I see it, Poe started out as "best pilot in the Resistance" to "interim leader of the Resistance" in episode 8 if the leak is accurate. Rey goes from scavenger to Jedi in the first movie. Finn goes from stormtrooper to coma patient. Clearly he has the most room for improvement and development, and that's a good thing.
Leaves much room to explore.

 

I'm sure they do

 

Yes they do.

 

The Resistance is thin to non existent. We'll find out how much is left, but it doesn't look like much. The Rebels had finances, troops, and leadership in place when Luke joined. This is different. No finances, no military, and leadership is thin.
If Luke was standing on that mountain top for just this one girl to come along to turn the tide then that sounds pretty boring. She is supposed to train with Luke, then Kylo and his crew come. Luke does his Jedi thing and TKOR are done. Kylo fights Rey, and gets the upper hand as she is about to fall off a cliff. Kylo realizes his mistake and just before Luke can get there Kylo and Rey force float in a loving embrace to his ship.
Luke goes back up the mountain to wait and mourn while Reylo takes shape. Snoke and Huxley are getting stronger and stronger. Finn stays in a coma for the rest of the movie.

Who can't wait to see that.

 

No thank you. I look forward to where Finn's character goes in the next movie.

 

Let's be real, this is not outside the realm of possibility.

Both of those franchises made loads of money, and they didn't need Ron or Samwise to become standouts in order to do it.

I personally hope that they do something more interesting with Finn, but there's no guarantee.

 

These comparisons are such pointless enterprises. Finn is a co-lead, but he will never be the main protagonist. If people are really afraid of him being relegated to Rey's sidekick, they should be thrilled that all indications for VIII are that he has his own story separate from her. The reality is, though, that comparisons to Lord of the Rings, Hunger Games, or Harry Potter, are totally pointless when we have other Star Wars movies to make legit comparisons to. Who was Luke's sidekick in the OT? Who was Anakin's sidekick in the PT? SW films don't do that. Finn is not our main protagonist, but he will be his own hero.

 

Wow, I see why I dropped this thread a while back. The negativity in here soul-crushing.

The lengths people will go to just to over-exaggerate and make a scene or character flaw worse than it really is are amazing. Is Finn a perfect character? No, of course not. There were things that could have been handled better and with more sensitivity, absolutely. But there are two more movies left. As John said, "a hero isn't made in one movie." Finn has the most potential for growth, and it seems to me that he'll be getting the true Luke Skywalker-esque Hero's Journey that takes time to develop. TFA was only the beginning.

I go back and forth on his possible Force sensitivity, but I do think that the Hosnian Prime scene is a weird thing to fixate on when there are so many other possible hints. Not to mention, didn't someone who edited TFA say she suspected he could indeed be FS on a podcast somewhere?

Leia was FS, but it was never explicitly stated in the films--instead, we got a vague (perhaps too vague, as there are still many people to this day who try to deny it) scene in ROTJ that essentially confirmed it. I don't see why that couldn't happen at some point with Finn.

The Peeta comparison is strange and just untrue. Peeta was there only to serve Katniss' story. He was not a co-lead, he was a sidekick, and the people involved with THG, both the movies and the books, have never been shy about that. Personally I still found him to be a compelling character, but he is nothing like Finn, in story or personality. Finn is no one's love interest, or sidekick, or doormat. Judging by the few leaks we have about VIII, he is going to have his own story/arc separate from the other characters.

Concerning and worrying is fine, but there's no need to have a coronary just yet. Wait 'till VIII.

 

Reading this thread like

 

Well, its not like there's a lot to talk about on the positive side.

 

Good question for everyone posting in this thread...

What IS Finn's destiny?

Or

What WILL BE Finn's destiny?

 

If you want Rey's benchmark, see Luke.
If you want Poe's benchmark, see Leia.

If you want Finn's benchmark, um....,take a random shot in the dark???

 

Kylo Ren murdered his father and countless other people, and as of now we have no leaks suggesting anything better--there's hardly anything positive to talk about there--yet people in his thread are fully able gush over him at length.

I think we can come up with plenty of positive things to talk about in a thread dedicated to a character who is kind, brave, and exceedingly loyal.

Posters here are deliberately seeking out the negatives and hyper-focusing on them.

 

Have we had any other actors in the star wars movies fake an accent for their characters? My memory is a bit fuzzy so someone help me out here....nontheless I really respect John for having to do so in a movie of this scale, wasn't perfect but I still think it was pretty damn good.

I really do think John ended up getting one of the best roles in the sequel trilogy next to Adams character, it'll just take some time and patience on our part to see that. However 1 year and 3 months is a pretty long ass time to wait. So while we wait I'd like to pose the question:

Do you guys think....do you think Finn is FS???

Really? I see lot of Luke in Finn, more so than Rey. Rey seems like a reboot of Anakin and Finn is basically Luke 2.0. He's like ANH Luke for like 90% of the film and ESB Luke for the last bit. At least that's how I see it...


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The way I see things in VIII with regards to Finn is this. Rey will have her major Jedi thing going on with Luke, Kylo etc..Finn and Poe meanwhile will be treading their own path apart. A path for Finn which will ultimately prove to be a romantic one. I think his character from TFA very much demands he goes this way in VIII..

 

Carrie tried at first.

But the actor who played Wedge did

 

I guess not dying in the medical bay, like Padme did of a broken heart, is good. Shows that he has a strong will.

 

Thank god Poe made it. I don't know if Finn would have pulled though otherwise.

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See I look at it like this:


Rey: Luke's Jedi destiny and powers, Han's skills with working on and piloting and owning the Falcon, Leia's kickass female attitude

Poe: Luke's x-wing pilot dogfighting skills, Han's experienced and cool older confident attitude, Leia's long association and history with the good guy group

Finn: Luke's dorky boyishness, Han's arc from thinking of himself to finding a cause, Leia's dependency on others because she's not a pilot and doesn't own a ship.

It seems like Rey and Poe got the better part of the deal, while Finn got the worst attributes of the original three.