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Books Journey to TFA: Lost Stars by Claudia Gray (finally coming to paperback Aug 1!)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by GrandAdmiralJello , Jul 8, 2015.

  1. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Chapters 21-23:

    Great afterglow discussion. I find it interesting that Imperial Ciena is the one who believes in the Force.

    I like the contrast between the way Ciena and Thane were handled by their superiors as well.

    LOL, nice 5251977 reference.

    Hudalla. "This galaxy isn't big enough." Apparently not. "The Force has a sick sense of humor." That I could believe too.

    Nash discovering that Thane was alive went over like a ton of duracrete. Prior to this book I would have expected any Alderaanian Imperials to defect immediately. Interesting what they have done with Nash.

    I liked the way Thane's escape worked out...if he never saw Ciena again, he would be left with the memory of her trying to save his life.
     
  2. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I wouldn't go nearly so far to say that Nash was the best thing about this book, but he was certainly the most pleasantly unexpected. A very creepy and sad character.
     
  3. Darth_Garak

    Darth_Garak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You went away with no word to bang your Imperial ex? Are you crazy? - I loved that bit.
     
  4. cthugha

    cthugha Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh wow this book was great. I don't think I've enjoyed reading any other Star Wars book this much since at least Shadows of Mindor. I expected a trite OT rehash with some behind-the-scenes romance thrown in, but this is so much more... from the casual worldbuilding (beard suppressant, anyone?) to the intricacies of Imperial politics and propaganda, this has felt more like the GFFA to me than any of the canon flagship novels so far (though Servants of the Empire is right up there with it), and the storytelling is a rare balance of intensity and parsimony -- it's no small feat to write a book that feels like one coherent story but spans 10+ years, without growing into a doorstopper.

    Highlights for me were: Thane's surprisingly slow and bumpy development into a Rebel; Ciena thinking that Tarkin might become a mentor for her, a few hours before he blows up with the Death Star; the fact that we got to see the mission to Dantooine and Vader getting picked up from Yavin (with "fragments moving out of the way like moved by a tractor beam" or something, but Ciena never making the connection to the Force); everybody's different reactions to the destruction of Alderaan and the Death Star; Dak Ralter; Corona squadron (even though they didn't have that many "squadron" scenes, I sometimes felt like I was reading one of the old X-Wing novels); the shout-out to Captain Lokmarcha; and the sneaky way in which we got to see enough of the Empire's dissolution to understand Ciena's place in it, but not enough to spoil everything else.

    And of course, the moment when Thane plants his flag in front of the Rees' house. That was absolutely the most powerful scene in the book for me -- and at the same time I loved that this grandiose act of solidarity didn't automatically make everything good again. The awkwardness and darkness (both weather- and soul-wise) of this whole situation was just excellently handled.
     
  5. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I remember a section of book where Thane is having flashbacks and one of them is

    "You like that?" Ciena asked, her breath on his shoulder

    Please someone confirm that's what I think it means :p
     
  6. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I can't even begin to imagine what you might be thinking, but I'm going to say yes.
     
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  7. Darth_Garak

    Darth_Garak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No clue what you're thinking about specifically but probably yes.This book had a lot .... action in it.
     
  8. Cheerios4u98

    Cheerios4u98 Jedi Knight star 3

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    For the record, I'm totally okay with authors introducing new planets in their stories. I just felt like this one had too many new planets. I felt overwhelmed. But maybe that was the point. Star Wars takes place inside an enormous galaxy.
     
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  9. cthugha

    cthugha Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually what she says in the flashback is "Like that?" ... which I guess is even more ambiguous.
     
  10. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    It has been a little while since I read the book but I don't recall that many new planets. Outside of the home planet (which was created specifically for the book) the majority of the book took place on Corruscant, Hoth, and in space. They mentioned Lothal quite a few times but that wasn't a new planet created for the book.
     
  11. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Also Naboo.
     
  12. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well I thought maybe Ciena was BLEEPing his BLEEP while he BLEEPed her BLEEP :p
     
  13. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    I thought they just faded to black during all the sex scenes and picked back up when they were finished. The closest thing I remember to the book getting into any nitty gritty details about what they did was when Ciena was taking mental images of Thane's naked body so her dead sister would be able to see it.
     
  14. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think it's one of the scenes when Thane is piloting in a heated battle and starts remembering previous quotes and moments from the book such as his father beating him, his time at the academy then out of nowhere SEX WITH CIENA! [face_hypnotized]
     
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    *AHEM* Deflecting off THAT particular angle...

    Chapters 24-26:

    The details about the trap at Endor, and Ciena's role in it, were good.

    "Flying into battle with no hope for survival was the secret to kicking ass." The rebels were awesome, seeing how much they could destroy before they (assumed they) got destroyed themselves.

    Ciena gets more disgruntled with the Empire because of the new Death Star and Palpatine's antics and yet she...hangs around. Gets promoted to Captain after the med droids repair her liver.

    Nash is getting pretty relentless with his crush, and while he isn't creepy there, he's pretty respectful, his pro-Empire view that his planet "had to be destroyed" because authority, is pretty creepy. Interesting coping mechanism there that gets weirder as the book goes on.

    I loved Thane's commentary on the New Republic, given how cynical he had been before, especially the comment that even the petty arguments were good because it meant people could speak out without reprisal.

    Sort of surprised that the war is going in such full swing after Endor, I was more expecting remnants of chaos. The inclusion of Naboo is nice, I've always liked the visuals there. But why the hell are they going to Otoh Gunga to get wasted? Alcohol via breath masks? And is Jar-Jar still alive? Drink responsibly, dude.

    Looks like Jakku is coming in. Story group doing its job I hope.
     
  16. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    Anakinfan have you been reading any of the comics? Shattered Empire gives us a pretty good idea of what was going on in the months after Endor.
     
  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Only the Kanan and Vader ones. I need to catch up on the others.

    Chapter 27-end:

    A bit of a small-galaxy moment when the Star Destroyer that Thane is set to take over just happens to be Inflictor, but that's forgivable given that there are not that many Star Destroyers left. I now have the idea that the Inflictor is the half buried Star Destroyer in the TFA trailer and I wonder if TFA will mention the characters in this book.

    The wrestling match when Thane was trying to get Ciena to the escape pod was hilarious in a sad way. So, she's going to sit in prison due to a combination of stubbornness and hopelessness. I was not really expecting this story to have a happy ending for our couple, and I am somewhere between being glad it's more realistic than your ride-off-into-the-sunset-happily-ever-after scenario and wanting a sequel so we can find out what the hell does happen.

    Nash has gone into full-on creeper mode. Dude is obsessed.

    Loved this book, would like more.

    10/10, a rating I have only given Traitor and A New Dawn
     
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  18. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Great that you had a ball with this and yeah, I think what happens with Nash is the biggest surprise of the book and very disturbing.
     
  19. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    anakinfansince1983, yeah, this book is definitely worth the same rating as some of the best books in the EU. It surprised me a lot; I expected to enjoy it but not nearly as much as I did. Thane and Ciena, I can say without reservation, are possible the best novel characters since the X-wing series.
     
  20. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    One thing the book raises at the end is the spectre of tech development.

    On the one hand you'd consider that a logical development, but in story terms it also brings in the hazard of tech eclipsing characters. So, you have TIEs with improved lasers that can punch through shields, then stronger shields get developed - warfare tech development basically goes superior weapon / defence developed and used, then counter is created and round and round it goes.

    It doesn't feature that much in SW, likely for the reason I've outlined, but should that change?
     
  21. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    Anakinfan Claudia Gray is going to be writing at least the first book of the New Republic series set to be released early next year. Not sure if she is writing the whole series but she at least is writing the first book.

    Chances are slim Thane and Ciena will have anything to do with it since it takes place just a few years before TFA but you never know.
     
  22. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I knew Gray was writing another book but I didn't know it was part of a New Republic series?
     
  23. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    New Republic Bloodlines, set in 28 ABY.


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  24. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Do we know it's a series?

    I can see the thinking as the title is New Republic: Bloodlines but, there is also Battlefront: Twilight Company with the same structure which, as far as I've heard, just the one book.
     
  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't think New Republic: Bloodlines is in a series. I think it's standalone. But yes, Gray is writing it.