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Comics Kanan (Marvel) #1: The Last Padawan, part 1 (of 5)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    It's been a long time, and I don't know if I can even find it again, now (don't even remember which thread it was in), but basically it was "One for the darkness (Maul), one for the light (Obi-Wan); one from the light stands in darkness (Anakin), one from the darkness stands in the light (Ventress). The last one stands apart from all (Ahsoka)." It was pretty cool and I did it as a joke, but then I realized how similar it really was, and it was too cool not to post here. I'll see if I can find it, though.

    Edit: found it (that was easy! :p) and I guess the one from the light in darkness was Barriss, not Anakin. Anyway, here you go.

     
  2. Slater

    Slater Jedi Master star 2

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    ^^ There it is,
    And here is Zeta's response:
    And here...
    Which just shows the complete double standard which makes him talking about TCW in any way a complete joke, condemn the show when it does something but it's immediately okay when JJM does? Bull****, moving the goalposts at it's finest, he couldn't be fair to the show if he tried.
     
  3. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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  4. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Oh, hey, I actually remember that! Thought somebody else made it.
     
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  5. Toonimator

    Toonimator Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Because everyone hates him for being a copycat. "I wanna be called Coleman, since the other Coleman is dead! And I want my surname to be a proper name backwards, too!"
     
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  6. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The one from the light who stands in the darkness should really by Anakin, shouldn't it?


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  7. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I ought to also mention my sheer pleasure with the portrayal of Depa. From her conversation with the natives, to her lessons for Caleb to the mentions of her having a complex and tragic past - this was all superb. Nuance is the best. I will genuinely be sad when she inevitably bites it next issue.

    That being said, I find it weird how she's mentioned to be a member of the Jedi Council. Perhaps Caleb is just wrong or perhaps she must just relinquish her seat but not her title due to whatever happened when she broke.
     
  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Maybe whatever happened after she "came out from whatever" - involved something important enough to promote her to Member of the High Council. Unless she was already that in AOTC.
     
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  9. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    She was. And not one in RotS.
     
  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Unless this comic is retconning her into being a Member of the High Council during ROTS - just out of contact for certain scenes.
     
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  11. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's no room. The roster for RotS is:
    • Yoda
    • Mace Windu
    • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    • Shaak Ti
    • Saesee Tiin
    • Ki-Adi Mundi
    • Agen Kolar
    • Kit Fisto
    • Coleman Kcaj
    • Stass Allie
    • Anakin Skywalker (replacing either Oppo Rancisis or Eeth Koth)
    In my head-canon, the Siege of Saleucami still occurred (hence the mention of the planet in RotS) and Anakin replaced Oppo, felled by Sora Bulq. Regardless, this leaves no room for Depa Billaba, according to the films.

    Proof:
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  12. The_Forgotten_Jedi

    The_Forgotten_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If Depa was on the Council that would have made Anakin the 13th member, which is rather fitting, but perhaps Depa was removed from the Council temporarily since she was on the front lines to make room for Anakin?
     
  13. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Could work. Palpatine may have said to the Council, "Hey, remember how Depa committed all those war crimes? Well, I might bring them up if again you don't let the Chosen One on the Council in her place."
     
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  14. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I always got the impression in ROTS of the Sith that the council were breaking the number rules by adding Anakin to the council therefore making it a council of 14.
     
  15. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Since chapter 1 of this arc is called Fight, I'm going to guess chapter 2 is named after Depa's final command: Run.
     
  16. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Perhaps Coleman is a title. :p


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  17. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Yeah, he's a political appointee, and 'add-on', and not seen as a legitimate member of the council. It would be like the U.S. government saying, "Okay, we're now making Father so-and-so, a Priest, into a Cardinal, and the Vatican needs to accept it.".

    Anakin seemed to be quite okay with the intertwining of Church and State, and saw no problem - he's a very ends justifies the means kind of guy. And the council poured salt in the wound/made their objection and offence to this clear by doing what they could - withholding the [religious] rank of Master, likely (as I see the retcon) partially with the excuse being that he wasn't able to technically train a Padawan to obtain and embrace the rank of Knight - which actually was sort of their fault. Stover's ROTS novel made it even more bitter, explicitly noting that withholding the rank of Master kept Anakin from accessing the Holocron vault, which he desired to get all up ons, 'cause he wanted to kill death, and he thought the secrets to doing that might be in there.

    The Council was clearly in disarray, and I'm sure from time to time it made sense for them to have other Masters be designated to stand in as temporary 'alternates' for certain types of decision making when a full member either was not able to participate, or an opening had not yet been permanently filled. Which would have ticked Anakin off even more, actually, if he wasn't even considered as a Temporary Alternate.
     
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  18. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    How have we gotten this far without Coleman Yrag showing up?
     
  19. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If that's the case I'm going to wager a guess Chapter 5 will be called "Forget" after what Caleb tries to do once he realises he's in the clear.
     
  20. CooperTFN

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    The Adi Gallia does not approve.
     
  21. smisk

    smisk Jedi Master star 2

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    Finally picked this up yesterday, really enjoyed it! The art is great and it's nice to see a comic in the CW period again!
    Also got Darth Vader #3 which apparently is selling out really fast. They got a fresh stock on Wednesday and there were only a couple copies left, my comic shop priced it at $11!! Supposedly some people think Aphra might eventually be in one of the movies which would make the value go way up...
     
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  22. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Taalcon I find that example fairly inapposite because the Jedi were under the chancellor's authority as early as TPM, and wartime measures just increased the office's control over the council. The Jedi use republic military ships, have Republic military ranks, and are funded by the tax payers. Their refusal to obey civil authority is part and parcel of their belief that they're above the law.

    They're acting like the First Estate rather than the public servants they are. And hell, even then the French kings got to appoint bishops.

    While the appointment was very clearly seen as the unprecedented interference that it was, comparing it to a secular state with constitutional protections for free exercise interfering with the conduct of a sovereign state... that just doesn't fit. Church and State were already intertwined. The question was just about the limits and precedents.


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  23. pepoluan

    pepoluan Jedi Knight star 2

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    My take would be that she entered... a certain state after AOTC, which necessitated the vacating of her seat, then after she reemerged from that 'state', although she can 'reclaim' her seat she decided not to. Or hadn't decided to.

    Because Depa in TLP seems to be dissenting against the Council.
     
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  24. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    That's fair. Basically, the Council were "wanting to have their cake and eat it too", so to say, and Palpatine's appointment of someone to the council was the inevitable end result of the meshing and complete marriage of the organizations.
     
  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Which -- by the way -- ties in rather nicely with Depa's observation that the Jedi should've never been generals. Between this and her comments on emotions, she's looking wiser and wiser by the minute.


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