Kyp Sunrider?

Quote: "Yep. I didn't even know about Kyp until I read NJO..."

Same here. I started reading the Star Wars EU with Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. From there, I went on to the novelization of The Phantom Menance, and then the Dark Tide novels. In between NJO releases, I've been able to delve back into the Bantam era and see what I've missed.

 

Actually, I did think about that possibility not too long ago. I remember there being something about Vima-da-Boda's daughter running away from her mother, or something like that, for a while and Vima tracking her down. Kinda sounded like it took at least a couple of years and that she was already dead when she found her. Truth be told, I'd have to look over the EGtC and the DE sourcebook again to be certain about all that. But I was wondering if she hadn't had at least one kid and Vima not know it. And that kid ended up being Kyp's ancestor. Of course this was just a thought, and one that just didn't seem right. Not that it wouldn't be intresting to see Kyp actually have such a link. But for whatever the reason, it just didn't seem right.

 

Actually I read Crytal Star first, then the Zhan trilogy, and then the dulogy, and then after reading the Episode I novel and Rogue Planet, I got Vector Prime.

 

Do I think Kyp is related to the Sunrider's? Maybe. We know nothing about Kyp's past, so he could be related to anyone.

However, up till this point there is no evidence what-so-ever that would make me think he is.

 

Ok, finally got off my rear and got the two books I mentioned. Vima's daughter was Neema. She began training her to be Jedi, and Neema showed much promise. Only problem is, she wanted to learn as quickly as possible (remind you of anyone in particular, folks). This lead her to begin learning the ways of the dark side. She ended up falling in with a group of young Jedi who experimented with the dark side.

Despite what Vima-Da-Boda said, Neema hooked married a barbaric warlord from Ottethan who apparently could not be affected by the dark side. The man beat and abused poor Neema, and eventually put her in chains and locked her in the dungeon. Neema sent out a call to her mother, who arrived on Ottetha to late. Neema had been fed to rancors that lived in the forest of the planet. In a fit of rage, Vima drew her lightsaber and killed the guy.

This much is from the EGtC, buyt it doesn't give how long Neema was with the guy. Also, it states that Vima only raised one daughter, but never mentions anything about a son. My assumption is that she only had one child, yet it never says anything other than one daughter, which could be open to the suggestion that if she had more than one child that the other child/children were sons.

The DE sourcebook also leaves to speculation the number of children, saying that it was her hope that Neema would become a Jedi. It does say that Vima tried to redeem Neema, but it was too late. Neema had choosen her path and would not be swayed by what her mother said. To Vima's horror, she became the mistress of an Ottethan warlord, who courted her friends to gain their aid. He was also unfaithful to. And to make matters worse, the folks he was unfaithful to her with were her very own friends. Yet she wouldn't hear anything of this, either because she actually thought he loved her or because she wanted to hurt her mother. She did wed him, but after a few months of sitting on the throne with him she began to see him for who he was.

It seems that at the same time, he got tired of his little "playmate" throwing her aside for other "distractions". This is when she tried using the dark side on him. But her "friends" had taught him some defenses to use against the Force. She was thrown into the dungeon where she languished for months. She ended up sending out the Force call. And the rest is pretty much the same, though we do learn that it was when he grew bored of her that he let Neema loose in the Rancor infested forest to become rancor bait. We also learn that it was his contemtous mock pity that lead to Vima giving in to her rage and killing the guy.

What is not mentioned here is Neema being beaten, put in chains, or actually dieing as rancor bait. However, it does imply that Neema was probably eaten by rancors and that her "husband" probably watched her die. Still, it could be possible that she somehow survived and managed to avoid being eaten.

What is mentioned is a slight sense of time. There's no idea how long she hooked up with the gang of rebellious Jedi who eventually lead her fully into the dark side. We do learn, however, that she wanted to master in a few short years what often took decades, so we can assume she was with them at least a year or two. But how long she was with them is of less importance compared with how long she was with the warlord. As his mistress, we have no clue exactly, though we do have an idea what was going on between the two during that time.

We do have a clue, however, as to how long they were married before she was thrown into the forests as rancor chow. She sat a few months on the thrown and then was in the dugeon for months. The number of months for both is not given, though we can assume it was at least four months from the time she was married to the time she was thrown into the forest to be dealt with by the rancors. I would, however, lean more towards at least five months as the term "a few months" is used concerning her time on the throne beside the warlord. To me, two months is usually mentioned "a couple of months" while three or more is

 

Knight1192:

Remind me never to ask for a synopsis of the NJO

 

Oooooo, you really don't want that. I could do a very quick one that wouldn't be anything like that post. But for a decent summaray, I'd probably have something three times as long as that loaded with plenty of quotes.

 

***The Grand Admiral gets some popcorn and kicks back in his command chair...***

Should I wait to use the washroom, or are we going to be here a while?

 

Hey, this concerns Kyp possibly being the distant descendant of Nomi Sunrider, not a summary of the NJO. I had said one thing earlier that I wasn't terribly sure of. So I got the books I had wanted to get and looked up the info I needed. I then presented the basics of what was said concerning the daughter of Vima-Da-Boda and the possibility of Neema actually having an heir.

 

Are you by any chance a history major?

 

No longer in school, though I did study history. I still do study it as history intrests me a good bit. Particuallry the American Civil War and WWII.