ST Laura Dern (Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo) in TLJ

I read a rumor online somewhere that says Laura Dern's Character is a Resistance leader that outranks Poe. The article I read describes a scene where Poe and Dern's character are trying to escape a ship that has been attacked...? Grain of salt as well...

 

I am ecstatic with the casting of Laura Dern, she is a superb actress and would fit into Star Wars perfectly. I loved Jurassic Park (favourite movie after Star Wars), she is certainly going to deliver!

 

Any chances Laura plays the Centrist senator Lady Sindian from Bloodline?

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she was the character secretly allied with the First Order who planned the bombing at a senate hearing Leia attended. We also learned that this bombing was Rian Johnson's idea

 

I thought it was Arliz Hadrassian who planned the bombing?

 

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yeah, Carise was acutally upset with Hadrassiam for acting so crudely without strategic consideration

 

This leak comes from MSW which most certainly means it's legit. She's a high ranking member of the Resistance/Senate who gets word of an impending First Order attack but lets it happen. This results in a majority of the Resistance dead, Leia severely injured, and only Poe and a few others surviving. In their weakened state, Dern's character takes control of the them, but Poe sticks up to her and takes back the Resistance with his crew. The movie ends with Leia unable to lead the Resistance, Laura Dern ousted, and Poe the interim leader of the now small band of fighters.

 

I wouldn't say its certainly legit just because its from MSW, they had plenty of stuff from TFA wrong, it was only when they had that leak caused by a disgruntled employee who lost their job because of the delay in filming due to Harrisons injury that they suddenly had rock solid stuff, before that they were just like any other rumour site and now they are back to that status unless there another massive script leak (which is unlikely)... people need to keep this in mind, MSW got lucky with TFA due to circumstance, with ep 8 what they say isn't rock solid and should be under as much scrutiny as any other place rumours come from...

Anyway if it is legit, which is possible of-course, then I have to say that plot line sounds....... boring... seriously is that it, it sounds so conventional... where's the excitement...I mean come on who cares about some random person trying to take over the resistance only for Poe to resist and take what's left with him ZZZZZ... Is that really going to be a strand of a film... the plot goes no-where, and how does it relate to the rest of the movie, what's its purpose... sounds off to me.. but you never know, it could well be true...

 

You are making judgements about a storyline that we don't even know fully. This is just a tiny piece of the puzzle here. Reserve your judgements for next year.

I could say the exact same thing about the early leaks of TFA:

"John Boyega plays a stormtrooper?? Boring. So many people have played stormtroopers before. It's so conventional. If that's really a strand of the film, the plot goes nowhere, and how does it relate to the rest of the movie, whats its purpose, it sounds off to me."

See?

And MSW had legitimate leaks from several sources for the entirety of the TFA production. He befriended several people from Pinewood who were working on the film and got his info from them. Now that he's had time to solidify those friendships and really get to know them he should be getting even more info for Episode VIII. And he always cross checks his info with several sources before posting it on his website. He doesn't just publish one thing he hears from a person. Once he hears something, he sends it to all the other people, and they will either say "yea that's generally what happens", or "no not at all". He only posts stuff where everyone says "yea that's generally what happens."

 

It doesn't sound "boring" to me. It just sounds like a waste of Leia (and really, another character in a coma, already? Seriously)?

And yes, the thought of Laura Dern playing

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Lady Carise had occurred to me as well. But IDK if the ages line up and Claudia Gray has said that she actually pictured an Asian actress playing the part.

 

So much wrongness....

Two lots of 'solid' info -

1, The Call Sheets or whatever they were on which the whole outline was based (including scenes that did not either film or make the final cut).

2, A large batch of Concept Art, most of which was unused or not relevant to the movie.

 

You sound like you know a lot about how this process works.... "The Call Sheets or whatever they were on"



A. They didn't include all of 9 shots out of the 346 shots that were listed on the call sheet.

B. How can concept art "not be relevant to the movie"? It is literally art created from the story. Show me one single piece of concept art that wasn't relevant to the story.

You're only listing "solid info" that was released to the public. As I said before, Jason made connections at Pinewood and verified information through them. He and MSW had the call sheet 8 months before it was released to the public, and he got the concept art before everyone else. He legally couldn't release them. However he gave descriptions of the art that ended up being spot on. The art that was released was leaked by IndieRevolver and an imageshack account.

How exactly would you know that what I said is wrong? Do you have a source to prove it otherwise? No, you're saying it's wrong when you really don't know how it works.

From articles about Jason Ward/MSW:

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/star-wars-leak-king/


http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Most-Star-Wars-Biggest-Spoilers-Actually-Leaked-102957.html

 

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She is a Republican leader riight (Dern's rumoured character, not Carise) - if so .. Populist or Centrist? I go for Populist since she would be rivaling Leia or at least an ally. Perhaps she is the representative of the last remnant of the ineffectual New Republic.Maybe she refuses to join the fight against the FO without going through proper procedures with whatever remnant of a government is left after the obliteration of Hosnian Prime...

 

Some one playing a stormtrooper didn't sound boring at all, in-fact the opposite it was a very interesting choice to make one of the main characters be part of a group that's usually just there to shoot at people and be shot at... it would and indeed did add an interesting new dynamic to the star wars world...

A new character comes in, tries to take control of the resistance, fails, and Poe just takes what's left of them with him... that is not adding anything interesting and the plot goes back to square one, what's the point of this new character if she doesn't achieve anything, but that's just me, I'm just giving my honest reaction like I did with TFA... most of which did sound interesting, bar the god-awful lighstsaber in space thing..

.. And regarding MSW, they are just the same as any other rumour site/hunters... unless they luck out on getting another call sheet, which is unlikely, then they are just the same and should be treated with as much scepticism...

 

Maybe Laura's character is secretly allied with the FO. That could be interesting.

 

temtam "A. They didn't include all of 9 shots out of the 346 shots that were listed on the call sheet.

B. How can concept art "not be relevant to the movie"? It is literally art created from the story. Show me one single piece of concept art that wasn't relevant to the story."

A - What? Didn't include what where?

B - Concept art that is not used in the movie, that's irrelevant. MSW had a lot of irrelevant concept art, perhaps you missed his descriptions?

And for all the Intel, documentation and imagery that MSW alleged they had they sure missed the target a hell of a lot. Perhaps their problem is deciphering what they got?

 

A - Shots. They didn't include 9 shots out of the 346 total shots leaked from the call sheet, that were intended to be included in the movie.

B - Even if it isn't used in the movie, it's still relevant to said movie. I read MSW's descriptions, and they were all accurate. Please prove me otherwise.

MSW had a complete, accurate synopsis of the film 8 months before it came out. How is that "missing the target"?

 

temtam "Even if it isn't used in the movie, it's still relevant to said movie."

Er, no it isn't. For example; Explain the relevance of the Quad Jumper being garaged in Rey's AT-AT home?

 

Okay, so let me get this straight. Because there's a Quad Jumper in Rey's home in one of the concept art pieces, that makes the entire piece not relevant to the movie? I think what you mean to say is: "That particular element isn't relevant to the final story."

It's literally a concept piece for Rey's home and her means of transportation. Very relevant to the story in every way.

 

What I'm saying is that MSW based month's of speculation on concept art that should have had a big red X through it.

 

What I'm saying is that he didn't base it completely off the art. He cross checked it with all of his various connections working at Pinewood. Did he do a story about the Quad Jumper at Rey's AT-AT home? No. He did stories from stuff he was 100% was intended to be in the film.

 

The leak on Dean's character has actually come from two different sites independently. Latino Review ran it first. MSW confirmed it through their sources.

 

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Well, if she's from the senate in the new leaks, why couldn't she be Lady Carise? At the end of Bloodline, Carise was still in the senate and she wasn't outed for her ties to the FO. It's possible that she survived the Hosnian System's destruction by virtue of the fact that she is tied to the FO and could have been warned to get out of dodge. She's the FO's person on the inside.

Not that I expect Laura Dern to play her, but I'd be thrilled with the reference if she did. I thought Carise was a pretty awesome character.

 

temtam I suggest you go back and read some of MSW's 'speculation' based on what he was told from late 2014 onwards. They really were quite wide of the mark.

 

True. Though they have clearly learned since then, and will not be ascribing high levels of certainty to rumors that they aren't certain about.

 

But MSW never said the movie will end like this, did they? it's described as an event happening during the film but we dont know when. could be during act 1 or 2 and leia could be back before the end. And they didnt say the attack that wounded her was because of laura dern's character? where did you get those infos?