Leia as Jabba's slave girl

bravo! now this nastiness can be put to rest.

 

Not so fast! The article says Hutts are hermaphroditic, not that they "don't have any sexual equipment at all," which DarthBoba befuddlingly claims above. No, hermaphroditic describes a person/entity/being/creature with both sets of sex organs, not none. What that says to me is that Jabba could have raped her in more than one way -- heterosexually, homosexually, and of course, just to beat a dead horse, Hutt-o-sexually.

But as to that, see my original post on the matter, upthread. In brief, Jabba wanted to whittle down Leia's resistance a bit before he went for the gold.

 

Sigh. I suppose I should've been more clear.

Given Hutt physicality, it's extremely unlikely that Hutts and humans are physically compatible.

Unless, of course, Hutt tongues are their equivalent to a penis.


Reproductive system of gastropods


Yeah, I'm glad breakfast isn't for another few hours.

 

There is no question there was a plan in place to resue Solo. Leia was part of that plan. She was going to be a force in getting him out. So she just bidded her time until the plan unfolded.

 

Come to think of it, Leia was in a daze for most of the movie. I'd chalked this to Fisher's extensive drug use, but who knows, maybe there was some ghastly David Lynch shenanigans I'd rather not think about.

 

I actually heard that while huts do not have a gender, they can have fetishes, and adopt a gender-like male or female (in jabba's case male) personality. I also read that jabba did learn to appriciate the beauty of attractive female humanoids such as twi leks, and humans, and in less attractive females sly nootes, and the six-boobed slave girl.

O.K. this is getting wierd,

 

This whole thing with Jabba liking humanoid females never made sense to me. If he should be attracted to someone, it should be females of his own or similar species. Humanoids should seem ugly to him just as he seems to them. It?s very strange that many authors and film directors, not only in Star Wars, make monsters be attracted to humanoid females, while they logically should have their own standards of beauty.

 

Yup. Even King Kong had this issue.

 

As someone said above, it was more for her humiliation than his phyiscal pleasure.

 

Well, if Jabba had raped her, she obviously would have been asking for it, looking at that gold bikini she was wearing...

 

How could she ask for it? She was forced to where the bikini, either that or sharp drooly rancor teeth .

 

In the novelization for The Clone Wars, Traviss goes into why Jabba has slave girls at all. She explains that, while he has no lust for sexual gratification, he has great lust for power. Further, he wants all to know he has power. In order to display his power to those around him, he determined he must own the things that others desire. Slave girls are specifically addressed, because humanoid females are what humanoid males, which comprise most of those he deals with, most desire. Therefore, he acquires slave girls of various forms to display his power to all who would come to him. By subjugating Leia, he shows that he owns even a Princess, and his power is great indeed. This is also why he displays Solo publicly, and not in some secure vault. It was never sexual.

I think this is a pretty smart way to look at the issue. Further, I believe from Jabba's personality, he is unlikely to allow his slave girls to be fodder for the common thugs around him. They are examples of HIS power. They are things HE owns. For him to allow just anyone to set hands on his property would look like weakness to him. He may allow someone who performs well for him to take privileges with the girls as a reward, but I doubt this is overly common. Most probably prefer money, when if they were going to commit rape they could do it of their own volition for free.

Boba Fett had become Jabba's star employee, and as such he thought to reward him with a special treat he would not afford anyone else. This was a night with the greatest example of his power. Fortunately for Leia, Fett is to complicated a man to do something so base as rape.

 

As lurid as the question may be, the answer could already be there. Look closely at Leia's demeanor in those slave girl scenes. I recently rewatched the original trilogy, I couldn't help but see just how passive and submissive Leia was as a slave, as if all defiance was beaten out of her. Compare that to A New Hope and the contrast between the two is shocking. In ANH, she's defiant when Vader captures her, outright insults and defies Tarkin when he's brought to her, even when faced with termination. Then she withstands Imperial torture to such a degree that even Vader calls her resistance "considerable." Even after all that, she doesn't break and STILL manages to lie when her planet is faced with destruction. The implication is clear - Leia is a strong cookie.

There's not a trace of that Leia at all once she's been stripped and chained. I doubt that simply wearing a humiliating outfit would be worse than everything she withstood in ANH, so we're left to conclude that whatever Jabba put her through was worse. Her shame and fear are evident and the Leia we know from ANH would never let a captor see her be so weak, especially not after just a few hours of captivity. For a strong woman like Leia to be so submissive, either she must have been forced to do some horrible things, or she'd been there several days if not weeks. Note that she never speaks out of turn and when she wanders from Jabba's side on the barge, all it takes is a brief tug from him before she returns to his side. Even when Luke mounts his attack, she stands there for a few moments before she realizes she can fight back against her master.

So with all of this in mind, i ask, do you think Jabba would have broken Leia's will before much longer? Suppose Luke's escape failed, and ended with him, Chewie, Han, and Lando dead. With no hope for a rescue, would Leia soon have accepted her fate and began serving Jabba as a proper slave girl? Would she have danced for him and called him "Master?" Or do you think she would have somehow found the strength to make one last "Hail Mary" attempt to break out, even if it resulted in her death?

 

I doubt Boba would have done anything. He was set on one of the other dancers. Rystáll Sant In the special edition when either Leia, or 3PO show up (can't remember which it is) he is in the back flirting with her. So he had something for her. This is just another reason to put on the list of why Boba wouldn't have done it.

 

Jabba had Solo and Chewie as prisoners! Any trace of defiance from Leia, and they were history. What would YOU have done in her place?

When she was captured by Vader in ANH, she was still technically "the Senator" and she was playing the "what you're doing is illegal and you'll suffer the consequences if you don't let me go" card. That reasoning is mootless with Jabba. Besides, after being tortured by Vader and loosing her whole planet, family and friends in one blow, withstanding a bit of public humiliation by Jabba is nothing in exchange for his friend's lives- not to mention the love of her life).

 

How do you get raped by muppets? Just curious. Anyway, something I've always liked about Star Wars movies and I think this goes for most fans is that things that horrible don't happen. Even during the Clone Wars most of the "death" that happens is just droids being destroyed. That's why, and I know I will get tons of flack for this, when I read the first Karen Travis book in the Republic Commando series and she mentioned rape, I thought this is totally outside the Star Wars realm and should have been caught by the editor. Certain villainous acts are acceptable in the Star Wars universe and others are not. I think it's as simple as that.

 

You haven't been on the internet long enough, it seems

Quite a few of the clones die rather horribly. And then there were the geonosians who got torched with a flamethrower.

She does it again with Boba's frozen ex., but a lot of current EU is uncomfortably close to the darker sides of life on Earth (though I suppose an argument can be made that she indulges in it more than others...).

 

Regarding Leia's submissiveness, may it not have something to do with the fact that Jabba has the controls to the shock panels in her slave collar?

For all we know, maybe the only 'horrible things' he did to her was shock her a thousand times before she got the point.

Well, that and a few sloppy Jabba kisses, which is pretty horrible in and of ITSELF.

EDIT: Also- and I mean NO disrespect to Karen Traviss, here (waves well-loved Boba Fett action figure to ward off protest), but her take on why Jabba keeps slaves contradicts LITERALLY every other source that so much as HINTS at the subject, up to and including the ROTJ novelization and, to an extent, the film itself.

 

I haven't read any of Karen Traviss' so could you explain how her take on Jabba keeping slaves differs from every other source? I'm with those who tend to think that the concept of a giant slug literally being sexually attracted to human females is a little hard to swallow, so I felt that most of canon's take that Jabba enjoyed humilating and degrading was more logical than the idea he truly lusted for his slaves.

 

Well, there's the obvious one in-film, how he tries to drag Oola towards him to do... something unspecified with her, and she vehemently resists, and gets the Rancor for it.

I'm thinking of the expression on his face right now (having just finished rewatching ROTJ last night), especially the lip-licking and the way his eyes widen and then narrow in appreciation of Oola's dancing (a VERY well-animated scene, I have to point out- that old Jabba puppet was a lot more mobile (especially in the face than you'd think!).

Then there's the ROTJ novel, where Jabba literally kisses Leia on the lips.

Then there's Yarna d'al Gargan, who Jabba forced to wear wart patches because she reminded him of his mother while wearing them (talk about ISSUES!)...

And then there's references in the Han Solo Trilogy where Jiliac comments on Jabba's perverse tastes and, 'bizarre attraction to humanoid females' and how they embarass him/her so (can't recall whether Jilliac was male or female at the time of those comments... stupid sex-changing space slugs. >_< ).

There's even a line where Jabba comments on how he's growing to appreciate Han, and then Jiliac says "Why? I honestly can't see him wearing those scanty outfits you like on your slaves, cavorting in front of you with that Wookiee of his." And Jabba, IIRC, embarassedly drops the subject.

You start to see a pattern here- Jabba is one sick and SERIOUSLY twisted slug.

 

I always thought her submissiveness was because she was playing a part. They only had 3 years to plan this out. And if she could kill Jabba imagine what she'd have done to a potential rapist. I would also think that her latent Force skills might kick in in a situation like that. You can't rape a Skywalker.

 

Nitpicks:

1. They only had about 6 months to plan it all out.
2. If a Skywalker can be painfully tortured and dismembered, then in theory it could be possible to rape a Skywalker.

About the shock panel comment, I never heard of Jabba's chain ever having the ability to shock slaves. Is there a source for this?

 

The likelihood that Leia might well have been raped by Jabba or Boba Fett ...

It has really put a new perspective on the "darling film" of the Saga - ROTJ.

Han's jealously on the Ewok Tree Bridge and questions towards his girlfriend -- Luke should have been the least of his concerns.

We know how Solo is. After thinking about what could have transpired during the Slave Girl time, Han must have been steaming, and wanting very serious answers from his girlfriend.

DID THEY TOUCH YOU? WHO SAW YOU NAKED? HOW MANY GUYS HUMPED YOU?

It's amazing that Solo got over this episode in their courtship - and married her.

 

well not exactly, as jabbas prize and personal slave girl the only person who could come close to raping her etc would be jabba himself unless HE gave them permission to, which in fact as a sign of thanks leia was actually offered to boba fett to "have" for a night for bringing jabba the prize of a han solo in carbonite (and btw because of bobas strong moral code he did nothing but provide leia with a decent shelter for the night in his room, whereas he could have easily done the above things to her if he pleased)... and besides thats what the twi'lek dancing girls are for