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Amph "Life finds a way" - Jurassic World (Now: Rebirth)

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthBoba, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Fast ballooned their budget trying to Avengers: Endgame returning cast members their last movie and it didn't help in the domestic numbers at all, it did really good overseas which is also where Jurassic makes it. I don't think cast continuity is a big deal for this franchise, dinosaurs are
     
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  2. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    Beyond the technical achievements of the first film, the dinosaurs are now little more then great monsters to stage in action sequences these days.

    Oh sure, they will add in a new species and adapt the designs to keep up with newer discoveries and theories as the decades pass...but ultimately after they are introduced, there had better be some human trapping them in a fridge or tangling them in something.

    There is still a human element to these films. Otherwise they would just do films like Disney's Dinosaur...which never smelled profit.

    Lost World was cast initially to follow the book Crichton wrote...but once they decided to can 90% of it, they really should've gone back to the "pick up where the last one left off" trope.

    Which is why, while Lost World made buck...it's not nearly as beloved or recalled as the original.

    And it also stained the JP3 before it even went into development...and once again, they played with pieces of the cast and new characters no one wanted to see...again...miss.

    The World trilogy essentially nailed it by keeping the core cast involved, AND bonused on bringing the original cast back. Big win for, honestly, the worst story of the franchise to date.

    Now they try for a clean slate...which I have a hard time understanding. Scarjo demands a hefty price tag. Are they that desperate to get it to screen that they won't wait for actors?

    Again...not saying this will flop the film. I just think they could profit more.

    To me is sounds like: New Faces/Same Story.

    I think more profit would be in: Same Faces/New Story.
     
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  3. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Dominion brought back characters from the original, in conjunction with JW characters, and it sucked. I actually prefer to have a new movie in the franchise with a new setting like this have new characters like this does. The medical angle of the plot does sound kind of iffy, but having the original screenwriter helps… and Edwards directing is reassuring.
     
  4. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    The plot summary has them running into a rich family that got stranded "When Zora’s operation intersects with a civilian family whose boating expedition was capsized by marauding aquatic dinos, they all find themselves stranded on an island where they come face-to-face with a sinister, shocking discovery that’s been hidden from the world for decades." Which is starting to feel like a Jurassic Park III which is the worst one to crib from. (I know it doesn't say "rich family" but it does say civilians boating expedition, which c'mon)
     
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  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The cast refresh is because this is essentially a new trilogy being started, despite the World moniker. Same as JW1. Note that the synopsis still refers to the JW “trilogy”.
     
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  6. rocknroll41

    rocknroll41 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Which is why I wish they woulda dropped “world” from the title and just call it Jurassic Rebirth or something.

    But I guess the “world” movies all made over a billion each, so the studio wants to try to maximize profit as much as they can.

    Rogue One really grew on me recently, so I’m even more excited for this movie now!
     
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  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, I fully agree they should have swapped out something in the title to distinguish this (presumably) trilogy.
     
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  8. gezvader28

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    I really like The Lost World . I watch it way more than the first one. The action set pieces are terrific, and you just get loads of great Dino action.
    Of course the first one was the great cinematic breakthrough, but just rating them on pure popcorn-entertainment value I'd always go for the sequel.
     
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  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Lost World is my favorite as well. Outside of the gymnastics sequence being one shot too long (just cut the spins out to make it a jump and kick and it'd be an awesome moment!). That cliff sequence is unrivaled. And the score is pretty unique. Like Williams channeling Poldouris or early Zimmer.

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    EDIT- The report is that the three dinos in question will be the Titanisaurus (land), Quetzacoatlus (air), and the returning Mosasaurus (sea).
     
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  10. Guidman

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    Animation looks good but they're running this thing into the ground. They were running out of ideas the last few seasons of Camp Cretaceous.
     
  11. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Force Ghost star 5

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    Happy to stick my head above the parapet as a fan of TLW over the original.
     
  12. PimpBacca

    PimpBacca Jedi Master star 4

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    Same here, also the tiger raptors are the best version to this day.
     
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  13. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I have to give the advantage to the first JP movie because I believe the T-Rex attack is the #1 best Spielberg action sequence ever which is saying something. Lost World gets pretty hardcore though.
     
  14. Jabba-wocky

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    The original Jurassic Park film was the only one that knew what it was. It was one of the very few relatively unadulterated "Man vs Nature" films in the modern era. With the possible exception of the kitchen sequence, there was never a sense that the dinosaurs wanted anything in particular from the humans. They were reacting, credibly, as wild animals set loose. Pursuing their own interests more or less oblivious to the consequences for the people around them. That was compelling, startling, and in moments, equally beautiful and breath-taking.

    What did the others ever have? A dumb cell phone gimmick (3)? That guy from Super Mario with super soldier dinosaurs? A bunch of dabbling homages to a half dozen other pop culture moments (The Lost World is so deeply guilty of this. The gymnast character as Dominique Dawes was peaking in popularity, the dumb Godzilla parallels with a T Rex in Los Angeles, et cetera). This is an incredible franchise in that they took a really magnificent movie and have done everything they could sense to make it completely awful.
     
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  15. BigAl6ft6

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    I wouldn't say the rest are "completely awful" but the first one does get across the "Don't #!%@ with nature" the best. They're trying to make a freaking amusement park with dinosaurs, of course everyone dies horribly
     
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  16. PCCViking

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    Yeah, I don't think Chris Pratt's character would have had a chance of being able to train the raptors in the first Jurassic Park movie.
     
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  17. Vaderize03

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    I mean, how many ways can you make a movie about dinosaurs eating people?
     
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  18. The2ndQuest

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    [​IMG]
     
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  19. PCCViking

    PCCViking 2 Truths & a Lie Host./16x WW Win/14xHMan Win. star 10 VIP - Game Winner VIP - Game Host

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    Realistically:
    Yoda: Always two there are, no more, no less.

    What Hollywood thinks:
    Threepio: 50,000. No less.

    :p
     
  20. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Blair Witch Project style, but it's dinosaurs.

    NatGeo, but dinosaurs, done as real to look at as possible.
     
  21. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I mucked that all up. How about done to look as real as possible.
     
  22. EHT

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  23. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    If you want me to see the new film in the theater, show me a grown up Lex and/or Tim featuring their original actors reprising the roles.
     
  24. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    i'm fine with ScarJo running from dinosaurs to get me in the theatre. Poor Lex and Tim had enough of being terrorized by them as kids!

    anyway that article says ' it continues the dinos-in-the-wild premise established across that trilogy, while beginning “a whole new chapter in the timeline of Jurassic”. So they aren't retcon bombing the premise of the last two films. Not that I wanted them to anyway but I was just curious if they would use that worldbuilding (probably for the first few scenes then they'll end up on some island)
     
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  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It'll be a special island only inhabited by humans.