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Lightsaber colors in Legacy

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jedi-Sith, Jan 16, 2008.

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  1. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Now we all know the debacles EU has faced over lightsaber colors due to GL deciding in Episode II that Jedi would only have blue and green, but whats the actual consensus at the moment. Here's what I was under the impression it being


    KOTOR time period, lightsabers came in many few colors, although Sith tend to take red and blue, green and yellow during this time period tend to represent the Jedi class (counselor, guardian and sentinel)


    Prequel time period, by this time period the Jedi have come to all start using crystals from Illum which only produce the green and blue blades. There are only a handful of exceptions like Mace Windu's violet one. Sith still use red. (Does this mean we're supposed to just pretend that all the various colors in the earlier Republic comics are actually blue and green - whats the official stance on this?)

    NJO era due to discovery of new crystal sources (most of the deposits the OJO used tend to be destroyed by the Empire) plus the use of synthetic crystals which was previously a Sith thing primarily, there are suddenly tonnes of different colors...


    Now this I can except its messy but as retcons go it works...

    so my question is why are we suddenly going back to blue and green only in the Legacy era?

    This is the New Jedi Order, they're supposed to have a large variety of colors.

    its not so much the case in LOTF although I think thats primarily because they're staying true to the colors they had in NJO, but I'm still annoyed Ben got stuck with a normal blue one, but in Legacy it seems all the Jedi are back to Green and Blue again..... why can't we have others?
     
  2. Kidan

    Kidan TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    Because LotF is a reboot of the NR/NJO era EU to make it more inline with the prequel era.

    Gone are these pesky things like Jedi in normal walks of life! Gone are those things like unique traits in Jedi. Different color blades? Bah! The trainees wearing orange jumpsuits? EGADS! And Porkins forbid that a Jedi have an original thought.

    Nay! We cannot have such treachery from the Grand Master of all things! All Jedi MUST be cardboard cut-outs of one another. Replaceable cogs in brown & white robes, easily replaced in the plot line one for another, accomplished by the merest of Find & Replace commands from the editor's word processor.

    Unless of course you are a scion of Skywalker. Then! Then that character shall be able to do the impossible. Then that character could conceivably have a blade that was neither red nor blue nor green. Of course, by impossible I don't mean have a decent characterization. That particular feat is still relegated just to Corellian pilots that weren't raised by the Chiss.
     
  3. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It really is pretty stupid that they've just run straight back to the OJO aesthetic. I liked to think that the NJO was closer to the Jedi as they were originally founded, with Jedi being involved in all different walks of life... now they're just the OJO with relationships.

    Oh well.

    Maybe the Jedi Order that's reformed after KotOR II will be more interesting. At least until the Post-Ruusan stuff.

    As for lightsaber colours... I'm still peeved that George didn't throw yellow into the mix. I mean, I understand why he didn't want any Jedi with yellow blades from a thematic standpoint (wouldn't show up well), but couldn't Yoda have had one at least? Or one of the Jedi in the "Palp vs 4" fight?
     
  4. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    We don't really know, right? I mean...we haven't seen a ton of Jedi in LotF era.
     
  5. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    Is anybody else bored with "bad guys" always having red lightsabers? Okay, so Alema Rar's was "a blue so dark, it appeared almost black," but seriously. It's kind of one-dimensional for the rest, isn't it?
     
  6. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Dark Jedi don't always have red lightsabers, unless they're serving a Sith, in which case they always do.
     
  7. younghansolo

    younghansolo Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    So true it hurts
     
  8. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not really.

    All Sith having red lightsabers is something I firmly support. I'd go as far to retcon every Sith ever as having had a red lightsaber.

    Kun? Red.
    Ulic? Red. (It actually WAS red on one of the covers)

    The comics just skewed the hue.... [face_whistling]

    I'd also retcon every Jedi ever shown with a red lightsaber as having had a different colour. I'm weird like that.
     
  9. _Erasmus_

    _Erasmus_ Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Actually, if one could she into different spectrums of light, the many subtle hues become a clashing horde of different colors.
     
  10. Loclown

    Loclown Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Jedi vs Sith says Sith blades are red because they are artificial crystals, embued with sith power which makes them slightly stronger, and on rare occascion, able to break Jedi blades.
     
  11. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    And yet this never happens.


    I have absolutely no problem with Sith being red.

    I just want to see some of the other colors on the Jedi, keep the continuity please! We already know the NJO have other colors.



    No we haven't seen too many Jedi yet in Legacy, but it does seem as if its heading that way.... If they change it now, then they can get away with it without it looking like a continuity error, but it certainly looks as if they are following the same rules they had when making the Republic comics.
     
  12. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We've seen very few Jedi sabers in Legacy. And even in the NJO and early Republic, blue and green have always been the most common, general colors, with some purple and yellow thrown in. I'd hesitate to say that Legacy is shutting the door on having other colors. If anything, it's just that, having worked on Republic for so long under the blue-and-green-only restraints, John, Jan, and Brad are naturally inclined towards blue and green and don't give much thought towards other colors.
     
  13. Kaje

    Kaje Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I assume it was a reference to that weird part in ANH when Ben's blade keeps going out.
     
  14. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    ^ Ah, beat me to it. Yes, that's precisely what it is, and that's stupid.
     
  15. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Thats what I'm afraid of, that we're not going to see whats been established as the norm in NJO due to what they're used to in Republic.

    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Legacy and all of John and Jan's work, its just a little curiosity that seems to have slipped through.


    As for NJO still having green and blue as the most common I'm not sure you can really argue that.... during the NJO series how many people besides Luke and Jacen had the green/blue ones... off the top of my head I can't think of many.

    Jaina & Anakin's - violet
    Corran - silver
    Ganners - yellow

    there were some gold, white, turquoise, orange thrown in throughout there as well, can't remember exactly who matched with what

    Leia's was even red!
     
  16. JaySkywalker01

    JaySkywalker01 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jedi lightsaber colors were any color of the spectrum back before AOTC and I really preferred that. It left more to my imagination.

    I was really glad that KOTOR 2 had more different colors on the lightsaber blades than about ANY medium I've seen.

    YJK got kinda hokey with it and tried to describe the colors in different ways than just red, blue or green. Green was emerald, purple was violet, blue was turquiose, yellow was flame, orange was molten bronze etc. etc. They even described Brakiss' lightsaber as having SPIKES running up the blade. I like to think they meant HILT but I'm pretty sure it said blade.

    Luckily, thanks to continuity, we can maintain creative lightsaber colors in the new era!
     
  17. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    I like red Jedi sabers.
     
  18. Jedi Trace

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    As far as Legacy comics are concerned, I kinda thought it was a visual cue. Unlike the novels, they don't have pages of narrative to introduce characters and explain their affiliations, and the art tells as much of the story as the dialogue. To make a differentiation on the page, the tattooed guys with red sabers are Sith, the folks with blue/green sabers are Jedi and the IKs have silver sabers.

    My 2 imaginary credits, FWIW.


     
  19. BobaMatt

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    Let's not forget that the Imperial Knights have silver lightsabers, so it's not as if Jan and Jon are ignoring the NJO expanded pallete.
     
  20. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Imperial Knights aren't Jedi, .... they're Imperial Knights... Sith don't have blue/green either... coz they're Sith.
     
  21. BobaMatt

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    My point being that the pallette is larger than what's in the movies, as per the EU; to rephrase, while the colors mostly reflect what we see in the movies and movie-related EU, we know that, in these comics, more colors are possible because the IKs have silver sabers. To further clarify, what's happening in Legacy is clearly not what was happening in the Clone Wars comics, where characters with all sorts of different colored sabers all changed without explanation to conform with Lucas' statements about saber color.
     
  22. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    but the point is about Jedi lightsabers,..... The movies brought in only blue and green for the Jedi... sure others like the Sith and Dark Jedi had other colors (red) but the Jedi only had blue and green.....

    just because another group has other colors doesn't change the situation about the Jedi lightsaber colors.
     
  23. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Of course, you realize that all lightsabers were originally supposed to be blue... ;)
     
  24. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I always pictured (in my fanfic fantasies), a dark blue saber, almost black, but with a midnight blue glow. And a short saber, like a broadsword, in bright orange. And the force user would be sort of a Jet Li, using both.
     
  25. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    *facedesk*

    Yes. You're right. The point is that, seeing as how jan and Jon are acknowledging the expanded EU palette, there's no reason to believe there aren't Jedi out there using different colored sabers, and we may see them some day.
     
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