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List of Vader's Jedi Captures/Kills

Discussion in 'Literature' started by dewback_rancher, Feb 23, 2010.

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  1. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    IDK... perhaps if we also listed each victims' specific manner of death, we could better quantify Vader's evil-greatness. But then again, we'd have to add-up all the impaling's, decap's, chokes, and bone shattering pushes into walls, planetary bombardments, poisons, the launching of people into space, and those killed by troopers under his command. Did I miss any ways that he whacked people?:p
     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Still, I think this list goes a long way to exonerating Darth Vader of the label of how he was just a poseur or a sick man in an iron mask (to quote Palpatine in Dark Empire).
     
  3. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've always held to the belief that Palp's was projecting there.
    He was really talking about himself...:p

    And if he wasn't, then he was just venting.
    As Uli pointed out (maybe it was another thread?) in Palpatine's own notes he states: with wicked-glee, that he'd gladly make a monster out of Vader again. IF that doesn't exonerate him, then for certain, this list does.
     
  4. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    What this list tells me is that trying to tell us Vader is a useless weakling is just malarkey, plain and simple.

    In fact, it seems the majority of Vader's kills/defeats are in straight-up combat, with the minority going to assists or more indirect methods like orbital bombardment and the like. Whatever else you want to say about the guy, he's NOT someone you can just monkeystomp at will- he's EARNED his infamous reputation by being quite legendarily lethal in combat.

    Which is basically what I felt about him to begin with.

    Now, for the list, I'd add Luke himself (TESB) to that list, and there's a few others I can't think of off the top of my head, but I can look up in the morning when I can manage to get on the campus PC.

    Right now, it's a bit too late for me to get into it, especially since I have to get up first thing in the morning to head to school! ;)

    Ooo- before I forget, are we going to split off Sith/Dark Jedi defeats like we did with straight-up kills? Because Vader just utterly one-sidedly trounces Aurra Sing in Coruscant Nights II: Street of Shadows, and inadvertantly slaughters a few Inquisitors during a bota-induced rampage in the third book, Patterns of the Force. [face_mischief]
     
  5. Treborani

    Treborani Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hear, hear!
     
  6. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    Here's what I've got to add so far:

    Jedi defeats:
    Luke Skywalker (The Empire Strikes Back)
    Olee Starstone (Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
    Jambe Lu (Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader)
    Nam Poorf (Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader)
    Aurra Sing (Fallen Jedi) (Coruscant Nights II: Street of Shadows)

    Notable non-Jedi kills:
    Unnamed Inquisitor (inadvertantly killed by Vader during a bota-fueled rampage/Coruscant Nights III: Patterns of the Force)
    Darth Vader clone (Galaxy of Fear: Clones)

    Unconfirmed Kills:
    Unidentified Bearded Human Jedi on Shumari (may or may not be canon/ Star Wars Manga)
    Unidentified Sullustan Jedi on Shumari (may or may not be canon/ Star Wars Manga)
    Unidentified Female Twi'lek Jedi on Shumari (may or may not be canon/ Star Wars Manga)
    Unidentified Gran Jedi on Shumari (may or may not be canon/ Star Wars Manga)
     
  7. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    QFT.
     
  8. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    Then I guess we don't have to Save our Darth, after all. He is one who needs no saving.
     
  9. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    Jedi Defeats:
    Klossi Anno (Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader)
    Celeste Morne (Arguable- Morne is defeated in the actual duel itself, and only manages to escape death by taking advantage of Vader's indecision to turn all nearby humans into rakghouls with the Muur Talisman, forcing a suddenly-outnumbered Vader to flee/ Dark Times: Vector)
    Ferus Olin (on at least two occasions- the first, he subdued and captured Olin; the second, Olin was saved from death when the Emperor ordered Vader away at the last second to see to the destruction of the Jedi's hidden asteroid base/ Last of the Jedi)

    Non-Jedi kills:
    Unnamed female human Dark Jedi on Dargulli (she both refuses to being a former Jedi, and Vader also senses none of the Jedi Order's teachings in her/ Star Wars Empire: Betrayal)
    Sheyvan (Emperor's Hand- killed by Vader after he rebelled against the Emperor/ A Two-Edged Sword)

    Non-Jedi Defeats:
    Malorum (Grand Inquisitor- nearly killed after enraging Vader with the mention of his findings regarding Vader's late wife)

    Unconfirmed Kills:
    Unknown number of Force-sensitive stormtroopers/Sa Cuis clones (A Two-Edged Sword)


    The part with Malorum was awesome- has him in a Force Choke and pulls what appears to be yet ANOTHER Force Scream, causing several of the crumbling walls of the Jedi Temple to just collapse into rubble.

    Really, Anakin/Vader seems to be the character MOST prone to Force Screams, as there's at least definitely five uses (and one possible one- see AOTC, where Yoda is almost physically stricken by the pain and rage Anakin bleeds into the Force during and after the Tusken slaughter)- this is the highest number any one character has done, to the best of my knowledge.

    So with Vader, you not only have to fear his CONSCIOUS use of the Force, but his UNconscious, automatic responses as well- they may be even MORE lethal.
     
  10. XPRaider

    XPRaider Jedi Youngling

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    hmm. This may seem like an odd addition, but how about adding Anakin Skywalker to the list. After all, Vader deceived and murdered Anakin (from a certain point of view), i.e. Anakin ceased to exist and Vader took his place.
     
  11. SithStarSlayer

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    Every SW author that touches-on, or even mentions Vader should be made to read this thread.
     
  12. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    Or at least see Michael Reaves' portrayal of Vader in the Coruscant Nights books.

    Never-before-seen Force feats like overloading lightsaber crystals through the Force + being favorably compared to (IE, pretty much confirmed to be exponentially more powerful than) known badasses like Kar Vastor and Aurra Sing + TK so powerful that when used against a single person, people 30 feet from said target nearly get knocked flat on their behinds + acknowledging that Vader is harder to kill than Mace Windu by sending him out a Coruscant window in a pre-ANH work, mandating he survives it + even his unconscious uses of the Force like Force Scream are potent enough to rattle a Coruscant high rise building to its foundations= suitably badass Vader.

    BTW, does he have an Author Discussion Thread in the suitable subforum? I went looking for it, but couldn't find it. [face_plain]

    EDIT: Also, noticed I forgot to reply to THIS post on the first page:
    Well, he HAS disintegrated at least two poor saps with raw dark side POWAH... ;)
     
  13. SithStarSlayer

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    Now my post is now com-plete.
     
  14. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    This is further confirmation of something I think C19 said, namely that Vader should be to Jedi what Agents were to "freeminds" in the Matrix. Namely, that the phrase "Vader is coming" should make even Jedi Masters wet their robes a little.
     
  15. SithStarSlayer

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    Sad thing is, "Should be" somehow replaced: "Vader; being the badass that he is, did whatever..."

    How it morphed, IDK.
     
  16. dewback_rancher

    dewback_rancher Jedi Master star 4

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    Anyone else have any more to add to this? Maybe a head count of the anonymous Jedi killed in the video game retreads of Operation: Knightfall, like the Episode 3 game and Battlefront II?

    Those'd still go in the Unconfirmed Kills, due to questions regarding game mechanics and all, but I'd think having a documented number would be useful.

    Also, things like checking A Two-Edged Sword to see if there's any indication as to the total number of those Sa Cuis clones Vader slaughters might be helpful as well... yeah, just trying to get this as accurate as possible before we let this thread die.

    ;)
     
  17. SithStarSlayer

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    How does this list stack up against a list of Jedi that made it INTO the Purge.
    For the most-part, we know the few who survived the purge and if we cross-check who went-in, versus who made it out alive... maybe we can find who is missing. If any...
     
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