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Literature Project - The Clone Wars Dossier

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sturm Antilles, Aug 6, 2001.

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  1. Ozzel

    Ozzel TF.N Foreign Book Covers Staff star 5 VIP

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    Jedi Master points, perhaps?
     
  2. jedimasterED

    jedimasterED Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    IIRC, Jedi Master Points will be used in some lame "auction" scheme. [face_plain]
     
  3. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Hmmmm...might make it more difficult for certain folks to grab 'em, perhaps. We'll see, I guess.
     
  4. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, they've already mentioned the forthcoming ebay auctions thing withe JM points...it seems to me that the Oct 1st thing will be something different- perhaps SW Insider?
     
  5. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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  7. Kreuzader

    Kreuzader Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Must... revive... thread:

    In addition to a timeline, there's now an entire Databank section devoted to the Clone Wars at the official site.
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, I have to get crackin' at incorporating some the new information.
     
  9. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Yeah, it's a pretty handy resource; just happened across it me own self recently. Some interesting new entries on it, like "Escape to New Holstice," for which I was curious as to when it fell precisely in the timeline.

    There's also a rather sizeable gap between "Escape From Castle Ventress" (quite a few "escapes" in these titles, wot?) and the "Medstar" series, along with only two entries falling into the second year of the wars thus far. But then again, there're many more Republic stories as yet unaccounted for, like John Ostrander's Bail Organa tale, that will undoubtedly get placed in the months to come.
     
  10. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Man, my interest in the Clone Wars is more fired up then ever! Cartoon looks awesome!!!
     
  11. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I wonder where Escape from Dagu is on the timeline?
     
  12. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Looks as if it ain't there. "The Dagu Revolt" falls during Month 9 of the post-Geonosis calendar, but it'll likely get added in down the road a pace.
     
  13. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    For the record here, I feel I should point out that the TOS's timeline isn't entirely accurate due to the flawed decision to represent entries by only tenths of a year. For the specfic details, check out my observations and comments in my timeline thread. (pull up my user bio for a link if you need it).
     
  14. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    True. It looks like you'd have to downconvert all of the dates in order to have them fit that 0.4 of a month discrepancy.

    BTW, who is currently in charge of determining the dates over at LFL? Not that I'm trying to harshly criticize here, but they might do well to cast a glance or three in this direction, because I've noticed that some of their story-placements are askew, as well (The New Droid Army, Storm Fleet Warnings, etc.).

    Converting the dates into tenths of a year *does* have its ease of utility, but it's a pain in the butt to have to switch between the two systems every time a new story is released.
     
  15. -Ambu_Fett-

    -Ambu_Fett- Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "Looks as if it ain't there. "The Dagu Revolt" falls during Month 9 of the post-Geonosis calendar, but it'll likely get added in down the road a pace."
    I would rather say it's been canceled (like the 'Knightfall'-Trilogy :(.
     
  16. Violento

    Violento Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ya, it looks like Escape from Dagu may have been cancelled, its not showing up in newer official timelines, Barnes and Noble took it down from their site, Randomhouse may have taken it down from their site as well(its not listed)...

    If it has been cancelled, part of me wishes that the entry for "Dagu Revolt" would be kept in the timelines, since it was already in print timelines... But it seems that no version of that event has ever taken place...

    The only thing that LFL hasn't done has confirmed in their own words on if it has been cancelled or not... I don't know if they are simply avoiding hte people asking the question at starwars.com... ...or if the book is being renamed, and modified...
     
  17. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Patience...
     
  18. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Too bad about that book. Likely as not, somebody will fill that "hole" in the Clone Wars calendar with another story in the years to come, once publishing slots are available again.

    A word to the wise out there:

    The tome to look forward to in the longer run, here, is Steven Barnes' The Cestus Deception...he's a more than competent SF writer who's done some terrific work both in print and in the "media SF" realm, is reasonably well-grounded enough in scientific argot to write *workable* science fiction, and has demonstrated the chops to be able to produce good storytelling, even in someone else's universe.

    (And it doesn't hurt either that Asajj Ventress might be seeing a bit more characterizational fleshing-out in the prose medium than what might be allowed in comics.)

     
  19. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Sending this one onward and upward, due to the fact that I'm starting to get things back underway once again in the writing (and the re-writing) of the treatise.

    With the end finally in sight, I'm ramping things up toward the final novels and Republic issues, but the full incorporation of these are -- obviously -- a ways off yet. However, I've gone back to the sections already written (first penned in late 2001/early 2002) and have revised three major ones to date -- some sixty-odd pages -- with new data corresponding to the Late Ostrander Epoch, the subsequent novels, and such.

    What with my real-life legal workload only consuming perhaps three days a week now, and most of that now out-of-court, I can devote slightly more time to working on projects such as this. Working off of The 2nd Quest's myriad supplementary threads (such as his excellent timeline and purge-survivors database) has assisted me tremendously, and has probably served to cut the overall research manhours in half (along with the material in this thread). Don't misunderstand -- love performing research, its process and the textures and subtleties -- it's part-and-parcel being in IP law, but anything that works to speed up the process can only be what a certain someone used to call A Good Thing.
     
  20. clonewarseu

    clonewarseu Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Where'd you dig up this old fossil?

    j/k :p



    Good to see that you're working on this again. I look forward to seeing the finished product when everything is said and done.
     
  21. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Yup, back from the boneyard this thing comes.

    Must say that your site's come in boffo handy more than a few times, to boot. Insofar as fact-checking goes, and keeping me honest about dating minutiae, it's served a legitimate purpose. I'll be getting in touch with Sturm here soonish to sound him out on a few things that I'm tweaking, seeing as how he was the catalyst for this whole thing, but since there's a final terminus in sight for the current Clone Wars story arcs, now's the time to polish this thing off once and for all.

    Although -- and T2Q brought this up recently in his timeline thread -- I'd originally slated coverage of the purge era and the "dark years," I think right at the moment the main body of the work proper will only be toedipping into the first few years post-ROTS (second time I've used that), and I (and Sturm) envisioned a series of appendices covering this material as needed.

    That type of stuff's gonna be covered for years to come by Dark Horse or whomever the next license-holder will be, and I'd prefer to not faerie-skim that epoch. Indeed, Michael Reaves' post-Episode III novel seems poised to cover this very territory, and I ain't about to omit it in a case of premature exclamation. Too, I'm certainly not ruling out second- and third-editions down the road either, with soup-to-nuts overhauling of the text, but as Senator Ted once said, how's about we drive off that bridge when we come to it?

    On a more serious note, since you've altered the "Timeline" section of your site with concomitant "Terran Month/Galactic Year:Month" notation, it's aided substantially in "eyeballing" certain dating-fixes without having to do massive amounts of numbercrunching.

    This being pretentiously thought of more as being a true history than a chronology, I've found myself pulling back from simply going willy-nilly with the Y:M schtick, but when citing HoloNet entries and the like, it's primo. Considering that the entire project was begun *before* the current Lucasfilm dating nomenclature was introduced, it's been surprisingly paper-smooth to rethink and rewrite and reintegrate source data into the body of the work without grotesquely Death Star-sized losses to the original text.
     
  22. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Keeping this one near the top, considering I'm using it quite substantially at the moment. Also handy for the "Jedi Watchmen" thread now in progress, and for cross-reffing with The2ndQuest's project threads.
     
  23. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    Up.

    Mark my words, this project will continue and be finalized in some manner in 2005.
     
  24. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    You've got competition, Antillies old boy. 2ndQuest's gone into a Clone War kick, you see, and by Vader's breath this isn't a quest to come second in. :D
     
  25. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    So that's what become of the pre and post-AotC timeline of his? Hmm.

    Well, I always envisioned the Dossier as being more in-universe fiction anyway. It will be different. And besides, we can work hand-in-hand with the other resources.
     
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