Luke Skywalker level 20

Are there any such stats? Have heard rumours but I havn't been able to find them.

 

I believe the latest official stats are within the RCRB, which is 19th level.

 

Luke is 18th lvl in the RCRB. Which is 1 lvl below the "Master of Mystery."

 

Who is the Master of Mystery?

 

Vergere.

 

Oh her. Yeah I have her stats... She's not all that powerful though. Like Corran Horn. He's level 19 too, but hes not that powerful as a Jedi.
At least not as powerful as Luke.

 

I agree. But many Luke fans throw a fit everytime they see that because by first impression they think she's stronger than Luke. When in fact, Luke could probably handle her without much trouble if it wasnt for all of her "Chemical brews".

As a side note: I was thinking that in the "new" NJO sourcebook that supposedly coming out, Luke should be bumped to lvl 20. After seeing the way he wasted Vong in TUF he should be around Yoda's lvl by now.

agree?

-Jabba out

 

Since you brought it up, Blithe, does anyone know when the new NJO sourcebook is coming out?

 

I don't think it's even in the works. I haven't heard anything about a new/revised NJOSB for ages.

 

I agree completely. Maybe there should be two versions of him. One from the beginning of the NJO. A level 18 like in the RCRB and then a level 20 version of him from TUF.
Luke is the uber Jedi. Not that I'm a total Luke fan but I have to admit that.

I havn't heard rumours about the revised NJO sourcebook either but I hope it comes out. A revised Dark Side sourcebook would be great too.

 

And Starships of the Galaxy. And Arms & Equipment. And Power of the Jedi (IIRC, it's still stuck back in pre-Revised). And...

 

Actually, Power of the Jedi is RCRB, not OCRB. The others, though, are OCRB.

 

Is anyone interested in making a TUF version of Luke Skywalker?
We could post ideas and make a playable post NJO Luke Skywalker together.
My Guess is that by this time he is infact a level 20 (like Yoda, Sidious ect.) He is the uber-Jedi. No doubt about that and I don't think the lvl 18 stats do him credit.

Here are the stats I used for Luke in the Beginning of the NJO.

Luke Skywalker (beginning of the New Jedi Order): Male Human Fringer 2/Jedi Guardian 13/Jedi Master 3; Init +2 (Dex); Defense 25 (+13 class, +2 Dex); Spd 10 m; VP/WP 116/12; Atk +21/+16/+11/+6* melee (5d8+2/19-20, lightsaber) or +19/+14/+9/+4 ranged; SQ Force Points use a though three levels higher; Skywalkers get Force-sensitive feat free and ignore the ?Force Level 1st? prerequisite when selecting the Force feats Control, Sense and Alter; bonus class skill (Repair), barter, deflect (defense +3, attack -3, extend defense and attack), block, Force secrets (Battlemind, Force Defense); SV Fort +14, Ref +14, Will +11; SZ M; FP 9; DSP 1; Rep +9; Str 14, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 15, Wis 15, Cha 13.
Equipment: Lightsaber, Jedi robes, XJ type X-wing starfighter.
Skills: Astrogate +5, Climb +7, Computer Use +8, Craft (lightsaber) +8, Diplomacy +5, Gather Information +4, Intimidate +4, Jump +12, Knowledge (Jedi lore) +4, Knowledge (politics) +6, Knowledge (Tatooine) +8, Pilot +14, Profession (moisture farmer) +5, Read/Write Basic, Repair +7, Search +7, Sense Motive +6, Speak Basic, Speak Huttese, Speak Jawa Trade Language, Speak Shyriiwook, Spot +8, Survival +7, Tumble +8.
Force Skills: Affect Mind +11, Battlemind +10, Empathy +12, Enhance Ability +8, Enhance Senses +6, Farseeing +10, Force Defense +8, Heal Self +7, Move Object +15, See Force +12, Telepathy +8.
Feats: Acrobatic, Combat Reflexes, Exotic Weapon (lightsaber), Fame, Force-Sensitive, Skill Emphasis (Pilot), Starship Dodge (starfighter), Starship Operation (starfighters), Weapon Focus (lightsaber), Weapon Group Proficiencies (blaster pistols, blaster rifles, primitive weapons, simple weapons).
Force Feats: Alter, Attuned, Control, Force Mastery, Knight Defense, Lightsaber Defense, Sense.


We need to add 2 more levels and asign feats and skill points.
Please justify your suggestions and ideas.

 

I'm new to RPGs but I think he should have Vongsense, the Battlemeld, and a lot higher far sight.

Also his combat and Force skills should be higher now because of his willingness to use the force and the fighting experience againstthe Vong.

I agree that by the time of TUF Luke is at least equal to Yoda and Palps.

Hand

 

Vongsense? is that a feat from the New Jedi Order Sourcebook? Thats one of the few books I don't own.

I agree his farseeing should be higher. Let's keep that in mind.

About the combat and Force being higher. Thats correct ofcourse but not on the count of his "willingness" to use the Force. Remember stats are what you CAN do - not what you're willing to do but I agree none-the-less. But mostly, like you said, because of his fighting against the Vong.

Glad you agree about the lvl 20. Some people tend to think he would be higher, but I don't think it suits a game to have characters higher than lvl 20. They'll simply be too powerful to control. also considering Yoda, Palpatine, Ragnos (among others) are lvl 20, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be higher.

What levels do you think Luke should have advanced in?
Jedi Master? or some other prest. class?

 

jedi master

 

also considering Yoda, Palpatine, Ragnos (among others) are lvl 20, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be higher.

Only Luke would be above them. As for Yoda, it has to do with Ep-3 so not talking about it. Palpatine - Luke defeated Palpatine cleanly in a direct duel using the light side of the force alone, and it was a younger and more powerful Palpatine. Also, the TUF Luke is far more powerful than those days. Remember when he was taking on most of the Vong and the slayers when Jacen and Jaina were simply astounded by his control and power? That was far above a level when he defeated Palpatine. He should be level 21.

 

Only Luke would be above them. As for Yoda, it has to do with Ep-3 so not talking about it. Palpatine - Luke defeated Palpatine cleanly in a direct duel using the light side of the force alone, and it was a younger and more powerful Palpatine. Also, the TUF Luke is far more powerful than those days. Remember when he was taking on most of the Vong and the slayers when Jacen and Jaina were simply astounded by his control and power? That was far above a level when he defeated Palpatine. He should be level 21.

I just read your post about Luke in the NJO lightsaber forms thread. Very nicely put. I couldn't agree more.
However, no character should be above level 20. While Luke is more powerful than Yoda at this point and arguably more powerful than Palpatine, level 20 should never be exceeded. One level 20 character can be more powerful than another level 20 character.
As for Luke defeating Palpatine in a duel. Yes, thats correct but Palpatine also defated Luke prior to that. Some people would even argue that Luke only won because Leia argumented his powers, but who's to say. Anyway, Luke in Dark Empire is not as powerful as Palpatine. No way near infact... But...
By TUF I would definately agree that Luke blows every Jedi Master before him out of the water! He is simply the Master. No doubt.

Here's the stats I use for Luke in my RPG game:

Luke Skywalker: Male Human Fringer 2/Jedi Guardian 13/Jedi Master 5; Init +2 (Dex); Defense 26 (+14 class, +2 Dex); Spd 10 m; VP/WP 128/12; Atk +23/+18/+13/+8* melee (5d8+2/18-20, lightsaber) or +21/+16/+11/+6 ranged; SQ Force Points use a though three levels higher; Skywalkers get Force-sensitive feat free and ignore the ?Force Level 1st? prerequisite when selecting the Force feats Control, Sense and Alter; bonus class skill (Repair), barter, deflect (defense +4, attack -3, extend defense and attack), block, Force secrets (Battlemind, Force Defense); SV Fort +15, Ref +15, Will +13; SZ M; FP 14; DSP 1; Rep +10; Str 14, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 15, Wis 16, Cha 13.
Equipment: Lightsaber, Jedi robes, XJ type X-wing starfighter.
Skills: Astrogate +5, Climb +7, Computer Use +8, Craft (lightsaber) +8, Diplomacy +5, Gather Information +4, Intimidate +4, Jump +12, Knowledge (Jedi lore) +5, Knowledge (politics) +6, Knowledge (Tatooine) +8, Knowledge (Yuuzhan Vong) +6, Pilot +15, Profession (moisture farmer) +6, Read/Write Basic, Repair +7, Search +7, Sense Motive +7, Speak Basic, Speak Huttese, Speak Jawa Trade Language, Speak Shyriiwook, Spot +9, Survival +8, Tumble +9.
Force Skills: Affect Mind +11, Battlemind +12, Empathy +13, Enhance Ability +10, Enhance Senses +7, Farseeing +15, Force Defense +9, Heal Self +7, Move Object +15, See Force +13, Telepathy +9.
Feats: Acrobatic, Combat Reflexes, Exotic Weapon (lightsaber), Fame, Force-Sensitive, Improved Critical (lightsaber), Skill Emphasis (Pilot), Starship Dodge (starfighter), Starship Operation (starfighters), Weapon Focus (lightsaber), Weapon Group Proficiencies (blaster pistols, blaster rifles, primitive weapons, simple weapons).
Force Feats: Alter, Attuned, Control, Force Mastery, Knight Defense, Lightsaber Defense, Sense.


These stats do him credit I think. Me and my players often (for fun) play out little RPG matches with the main characters stats.
This version of Luke has never lost. The only ones who have come close are Exar Kun, Count Dooku, Darth Vader and Mace Windu.

 

I agree about the cap being level 20, however,

As for Luke defeating Palpatine in a duel. Yes, thats correct but Palpatine also defated Luke prior to that. Some people would even argue that Luke only won because Leia argumented his powers, but who's to say. Anyway, Luke in Dark Empire is not as powerful as Palpatine. No way near infact... But...

Here is the problem. Yes Palpatine defeated Luke prior to that, but at that point Luke was trying to use the dark side against Palpatine (working from within), which could very well be used against one who is a light side user - like how Maul used Obi-Wan's brush with the dark side against him, as explained in the Starwars.com databank.

In the final duel, it was one on one, Luke with the light side vs Palpatine with the dark side. Luke was free of the darke side thanks to Leia's love bringing him back, but in the fight Leia did not augment his powers at all, nothing like that happened. In fact, she couldn't even see what was going on in that duel. It was also the grandest duel in all Star Wars.

Here're the exact details.

"The Emperor lunges at Luke--who activates his own lightsaber and blocks the blow!! A vicious duel ensues between the two. Both grunt and yell as they lash out.

LEIA: Be careful, Luke! The Force is strong....they?re both moving so fast, I can hardly see them....I feel waves of power....the Dark Side and the Light.....But......I feel......the Light.....is winning!!

One blow finally lands---and something thuds on the floor as both lightsabers deactivate!

EMPEROR: NNAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! MY HANDD!!! YOU?VE CUT OFF MY HANNNDDDD!!!!!! "

Look at Leia's descriptions as well. Luke defeated the Emperor with the light side alone and Leia had no part here at all

I like your stats as well, I believe that would give him due credit. Indeed, the current post TUF Luke is the highest character that we can have.

 

I hear you, LijoT. Good points.
But I have to enphasize again that Luke was not nearly as powerful as the Emperor in Dark Empire. But he did defeat him using the light side of the Force. This is just shows how... what shall we call it?.. blessed Luke is with the Force. He may not be as powerful as Sidious in Dark Empire, but for Luke that doesn't necessarily mean that he can't defeat him. It's the same thing he did with Vader in RotJ. No other Jedi could have done these things.

I think you're right on the money with the duel description. I truely believe no other Jedi in the history of the Order could have taken down the Palpatine from Dark Empire.
But up until the point where Luke landed cut off his hand it was a pretty even duel. In the first encounter Palpatine pushed Luke back, disarmed him and forced him to the ground like a b****. He litteraly out-faught him in every sense of the word.
The second time Luke more or less landed a "sucker-punch" (if I dare to say that . But still, no other Jedi would even come close to that!

Now, if the TUF version of Luke I posted were to face off against the Dark Empire Palpatine. THAT would be a duel!!!
And more of a match power-wise!
These two would fight with more skill and display more mastery in the Force than anything we have seen before!
Just think about it... TUF Luke vs. The most Powerful Sith Lord in the history of the Galaxy!

 

Good points Indeed, that would be the greatest duel of all, TUF Luke vs Palpatine in his young, powerful form. Truly masters of light vs dark!