Luke Skywalker's single decisive action in the NJO...

What do you think it will be? So far Luke has done a fine job as a leader, holding and rallying the Jedi together. And he's done plenty of damage to the Vong military in personal combat. But he hasn't had a big direct influence at a critical stage of the war. Anakin for example, armed centerpoint station and led the extremely important Voxyn mission. Jacen and Jaina are going to get their moments in the spotlight in Destiny's Way and beyond. What will Luke do that will change the war? I would personally like to see him kill Tsavong or Czulkang Lah, maybe even Overlord Shimrra. This is the son of the Chosen One we're talking about. He should have a big impact on the war before its over. And none of that nonesense about the NJO heroes being only "The Next Generation". The old heores are just as important. Would you read a massive serries like this without Luke, Han or Leia? I probably wouldn't. So what do you think Luke should get to do?

 

Luke should have someone close to him die. He would then procede to freak out and turn to the dark side. Soon thereafter he procedes to kill all the YV

 

I agree! He needs to get pissed off and kill a vong fleet all by himself! btw, have u checked out skydancer's thread on him? Luke should:
-kill shimrra
-kill lah (either one)
-kill callista (she gets on my nerves)
-kill kyp (see callista)
-lead a mision to coruscant and.. oh, wait. never mind
- train a whole bunch o' jedi or find a weak point in the vong
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Luke is probably as strong with the lightside of the force as Anakin was with the darkside, so there's really no need for Luke to turn. Besides, that's already been done.

 

Many people would say Luke turning to the Darkside again would be ridiculous, but if handled correctly, it could be the best thing for his character.

 

When jedi get old they no longer stand on the brink of the darkside and the light. Yoda probably had the power to kick the empires butt, but he couldn't. He was no longer at the brink and neither was obi-wan. That was why they recrueted Luke to do their fighting for them. Having someone close to him being killed would bring him back to the edge.

I agree that it may be unlikly to happen. I though Jania would turn but the different authors of NJO cannot get her character's personality straight.

And of course Luke is a weenie, he got married.

 

Luke's a weenie

Let him Die!!!

 

Luke a wennie?

Are we reading the same books?

We're talking about a guy who butchers Vong with his lightsaber as fast as they can throw at him. When in his X-Wing he does more damage to Vong fighters and capital ships than the New Republic navy. A Master who can smash a blackhole in on itself.

Yup, Luke's a real wennie.

 

Now, now calm down. Luke's not really a weenie... he's just overrated. Vote on my pole please.

 

How is he over rated? He's a lengendary Jedi Master.

 

When jedi get old they no longer stand on the brink of the darkside and the light.

One name: Count Dooku

 

When jedi get old they no longer stand on the brink of the darkside and the light. Yoda probably had the power to kick the empires butt, but he couldn't. He was no longer at the brink and neither was obi-wan. That was why they recrueted Luke to do their fighting for them. Having someone close to him being killed would bring him back to the edge.

i dont know how much i buy that argument
isnt that kind of introduced in the bfc?
when obi-wan was still young he wasnt able to defeat vader (im assuming from episode 3 there but i think thats a safe bet)
and yoda is old in episode 2 and he has a big fight scene apparently too
besides i think the reason they werent able to defeat vader or the empire is because it had to be the chosen one's son
luke had to bring anakin skywalker back from the dark side so that he could destroy the emperor
no one else could because no one else could defeat the chosen one
but thats off topic


i believe luke will do something else big before the end of the njo as well
he will kill off an important vong hopefully, is what im thinking
shimmra i hope
most powerful vong vs most powerful jedi
thatd be my choice if i were writing

 

What would be great was if Czulkang Lah went down to Coruscant during Rebel Dream and was then killed by Luke during the course of his mission.

That would be cool, and it would piss off Tsavong Lah.

 

The age of the jedi dosn't nessessarly( I always spell that wrong)matter, it is their state of mind. But the older a jedi gets the more set in their ways they become. I got that impression from the movies. Yoda seemed to have no hope of turning Vader back. I think Luke has changed from when he was younger, in DE ( my FAVORITE series in case you people haven't figured that out yet) Luke kick some serious @$$. He's not weak compared to the others now but compared to a younger version of himself... he seems diminished. But thats just my opinion.

 

i think the reason yoda and obi-wan had no hope of turning back is because they will try in the upcoming movies and fail
and that will just increase their hopelessness at turning him back when they are forced into seclusion and left to see what happens to the galaxy as a result



i agree that luke has changed from DE
but i dont think he is diminished
he is just more of a leader now
before he didnt have 100 or so jedi to lead
he was able to take the risks
its kinda like wedge now
sure he could still be rogue leader
but he is much more useful as a general and leading an army instead of a squadron
luke is just taking all of the experience he has gained from his bad-ass past and using that to help lead
that is more important that he and wedge do that since there is no one else who can

 

Luke exposes himself to far more danger than Wedge. Wedge flew personally in what, one battle? Luke has flown in multiple missions in four books and had plenty of ground combat.

"I think you underestimate his chances."

 

im thinking more along the lines that luke and wedge seem to be the leaders of the new resistence
luke definitely doesnt shy from battle anymore
he just doesnt go looking for it

he does see a huge threat on coruscant and decides to find out what it is
if thats not dangerous i dont know what is

 

I don't think Luke should make a decisive action that alters the course of the war: He's done that enough times, in my opinion. I think the best thing Luke can do from here on is be a good leader. Let Jacen and Jaina create the dramatic event that turns the tide. This series is about passing the torch from the old heroes of the Rebellion/New Republic to the new heroes the new Jedi Order.
I like to see Luke take an active role, but I don't think the fate of the galaxy should hinge on him alone, again.

 

Naturally, Jacen and Jaina will be the ones to end the war. But Luke should still do something big. By killing a main Vong character it would have a huge impact on the war effort, but it wouldn't end it.

 

Let's assess what Luke's done;

Vector Prime - the second guy to battle coralskippers and survive - WITHOUT SHIELDS TO HIS X-WING no less! Successfully flew through Lando's Folly in a way that would probably have made Jaina SO jealous if she hadn't been worried 'bout her dad.

Onslaught - Took the mission to a Yuuzhan-Vong-occupied planet, rescued Jacen, rescued Mara & Anakin, collapsed a black hole in on itself.

Ruin - Helped redeem Daeashara'cor (sp?), led the Jedi at Ithor, united them masterfully.

OK, nothing much in the next 2 books (nearly get assassinated, the usual)

Balance Point - Is one of a handful of Jedi to actually be ON-PLANET as the Yuuzhan Vong take Duro; escapes.

Conquest: Nothing much

Rebirth: Force-links with his wife in such a way as to destroy a Yuuzhan Vong virus.

Star by Star: Champion in his X-wing! Kicks Vong posterior!

Not much from the next book, then by Rebel Dream he's leading a squadron onto the very world the Yuuzhan Vong have just captured to investigate a dark side threat!

Hmm, does he particularly look as though he hasn't been doing anything?

That said, I DO want to see more. I admit after the Dark Tide books he's not in as much of the action until Star by Star, and I'd like to see Luke show Jedi Knights like Kyp Durron that he has NOT lost his edge, he's just chosen different ways to use it! I myself would like to see Luke take down one of the Lah's, or even Shimrra.

 

He gets a nice lightsaber work out in Rebel Dream. Not a very good work out though, he doesn't break a sweat.

 

Luke's single decisive action before Rebel Dream appeared to be "Well, if the Vong are attacking and I'm going to be indecisive... I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!"

Well... Mara had to get pregnant somehow.
(seems pretty decisive to me...)

 

I really liked Luke's double-saber rescue of Jacen in ONSLAUGHT, but I don't feel he's done all that much in the NEW JEDI ORDER since then. I'd like to see him written as the powerful, take-charge Jedi Master that we all know he can be, but which I don't feel we've seen enough of since the NEW JEDI ORDER started.

J_K_DartThat said, I DO want to see more. I admit after the Dark Tide books he's not in as much of the action until Star by Star, and I'd like to see Luke show Jedi Knights like Kyp Durron that he has NOT lost his edge, he's just chosen different ways to use it! I myself would like to see Luke take down one of the Lah's, or even Shimrra.

I'm with you! I want to see Luke do something really important. I'd like to see him at his most powerful again. I want to see the Son of the Chosen one using his Force skills (and his brains) in a big way.

Anakin 1607 (and others): You might want to check out Skydancer's SOS thread. Most of the posters there are hoping that Del Rey and LFL will give Luke a prominent role in the final defeat of the Yuuzhan Vong, and that he will be characterized better in the last NEW JEDI ORDER books. I'm sure Skydancer would appreciate your support!

 

Come on now! Be fair!

Luke fought with valor throughout the NJO, I think people are getting Luke's leadership discisions mixed up with his fighting in the war. Whenever Luke fights he just butchers who ever he goes up against.

 

comparing someone when they were in their 20's and single with no responsibility to when they are 40, married and a leader of the galaxy isnt a fair comparison
of course the younger is going to be much more decisive, good or bad
thats what youth is all about

lukes single decisive action in the empire strikes back was to leave his training and face vader
well done
if he had waited a minute and thought about it he would possibly have decided to stay and finish his training
then maybe he'd still have his real hand

lukes single decisive action in dark empire was to try to learn about the dark side by joining it
ended up bad for him yet again

so there are 2 examples of where his single decisive actions have led to something bad
that would tend to make the man more cautious would it not?