ST Luke's Other Students/Did all the Jedi really die?

Accept thats exactly what it feels like so far. Really hoping ep8 opens the story up into new/uncharted directions and not "the chosen one" or "balance to the force" or all the jedi are wiped out and a new order has to be built. It would make the entire squeal trilogy criminally redundant.

 

What evidence is there with Kelly Marie Tran's character possibly receiving Jedi Training? I haven't read nor heard that one before.

Also what about Maz Kanata on the list of "Possible received some Jedi training"?

 

they're dead. luke is "the last jedi."

 

No kidding. If it isn't already.

 

Yes Maz can be on the list as having received some Jedi training but would she say that instead of "i'm no Jedi"?

KMT has had the same type of stunt team as Daisy has had I believe, indications are that her character has a very athletic and even acrobatic character...

 

It's interesting and I think it depends on the timing of when Luke started training others. If all those that he trained were at the massacre and were all killed then were they all around the same level of training (including Ben)? If not could there have been others that Luke had already trained who had gone out on their own? Or were there other fully trained Jedi "teachers" with them who were all killed in the same way that the Jedi at the temple in ROS were? Since Luke is said to be the last then everyone Luke had trained had to be at that site wherever Kylo killed them. I wonder how easy it was for Kylo to take them out and how far alone they were with their training.

 

The picture of the helmet was to show the ashes.. You know, the ashes that are made of dead enemies that he puts his helmet into (most likely dead Jedi from the Temple.)

 

Do we know where Luke's Jedi were based?

 

Not, we don't know where Luke's Jedi were based. I have a feeling that by spring or summer of next year we will.

 

I wonder whether they even had a base, given that 'Bloodline' tells us Luke and Ben were fairly nomadic, travelling round in search of lore. Maybe it was a more loose interpretation, and they weren't strictly padawans in the old sense, more followers who sometimes joined up with him, sometimes did their own thing? A large grouping - ie. everyone being together to wipe them out - might have come about as a result of them wanting to confront Luke about the Vader parentage reveal.

 

They may have been mobile and nomadic, but I think the movie says they were Jedi. Maybe it was just Luke and a few companions who were travelling. Most were probably based on the Jedi Temple that we see destroyed in Rey's vision.

HAN SOLO: He was training a new generation of Jedi. One boy, an apprentice turned against him, destroyed it all.​

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No offense but where is that thought coming from? Snoke looks old as heck and even wookieepedia talks about him being very old with a vast knowledge of the past and I think their stuff is sourced from canon sources so in a book or somewhere it must have been mentioned that Snoke is very old.

 

None taken. I was saying that it is a possibility, as Han and Leia were discussing Snoke's interaction with Ben before he turned. That comes from Bloodlines. It never said Snoke was a Jedi under Luke.

 

Maybe Snoke is an "old friend" who approached of the family to seduce Ben to the dark side. Probably the massacre was his idea (that way Luke became the last jedi again and go into exile). Snoke knows Luke, Leia (and probably Han).

 

I want to learn more about who Lor San Tekka was. I want to know if this "old ally" was one of those Jedi-whether a student, or even like an "assistant" of Luke's or something. (That would help explain why he had the map fragment, and knew so much about Luke and his Jedi.)

His death (it looked pretty certain to me at least) was one of the biggest dissappointments of TFA for me, I thought there'd be so much more his character could've done!

 

tragedy.

 

Luke may have been what they claim to be the last Jedi, but who knows, some survivors may have gone into hiding and became "normal" civilians so as not to arouse suspicion... And completely "went off the grid", if you can say so!

Didn't that also happen when the infamous Order 66 came about? While the majority of Jedi back then were killed, there were several survivors who went into hiding... Notably Obi-Wan and Yoda!


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Well I guess if Snoke turns out to be a former Jedi there is a possibility he studied some with Luke. My guess is that Snoke just reached out to Ben when he was younger using the force but we will find out for sure hopefully by Ep 8.

 

Last Jedi.
Last son of Krypton.
The last Time Lord.

It makes everything more dramatic and important.

 

I'm betting on the "Knights of Ren" being some of Luke's former Jedi students, who Ben Solo turned to the Dark Side. Together, they killed Luke's other students and brought an end to his new Jedi Order.

I may be wrong...but it would be a bit of a disappointment if the "Knights of Ren" are just nameless henchmen without any decent kind of backstory.

 

there was no massacre. it's misdirection. luke's work was 'destroyed'. we don't even know what his 'work' was. just like we don't know what kylo thinks vader's 'work' was.

the other former jedi no longer identify as such. problem solved.

 

Source? Luke was training a new generation of Jedi, everything went wrong when one of his student turned against him and killed them and he became the Jedi killer i.e. Kylo Ren.

 

As I have said before, that is an absolute and the story could always throw curveballs

 

I would say that that there's no other Jedi around. There are those who are force sensitive like Rey

 

The first part makes a lot of sense. Maybe Luke's new order are, literally, more apprentices than traditional padawans. especially I don't see Luke taking little kids from their parents. I see him mimicking more of his experience, combined with Yoda and Obi-Wan's suggestions. Which I like because it will make what they did in the OT more meaningful (more spiritual and philosophical than multi-year basic training/karate belt progress), and righting the "mistakes" of the old way.

After all they are referred to as acolytes in Bloodline.

Also I wonder if the massacre was really the Jedi apprentices and some force sensitive "helpers" who came to help defend the new Jedi from the KoR while Luke was away with or without Ben.