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Andor Luthen Rael

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by ewoksimon, Aug 1, 2022.

  1. Cos Palpatine

    Cos Palpatine Jedi Master star 4

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    That's one of the things I love about having a major new SW show streaming: most aspects of these boards seem to light up. So much reading material.
     
  2. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's always an outside possibility that the current show will crossover with the off-season show or reveal something about one of its major characters in some way.

    Right now Ahsoka is underway, while Andor season 2 is still a year away. But there's always an outside possibility that something about a major Andor character could be revealed in Ahsoka.

    Imagine Thrawn monologing at Ahsoka: "...I knew that you were Fulcrum, I had put those pieces together, and was busy unveiling your network when fate called me away to the Unknown Regions. I knew that you had recruited the former Jedi Luthen Rael on one of the moons of Bogden, and that Bail Organa was your benefactor, among many other things."

    It would be a reveal of some background on an Andor character by way of another show, and a stringer tying the wider universe together, while that character's prime show was still in its off period.

    Perhaps the mere possibility of such things is behind that lighting up. A rising tide lifts all ships.
     
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  3. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So I would absolutely hate the Ahsoka show ruining potentially major plot points from Andor.

    There are certainly ways little stuff could be included, like Mon Mothma. But anything unveiling a secret or the fate of a character specific to a different current show should be off limits.

     
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  4. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I highly doubt they would do anything like that. It would be useless explanation anyways and spoiling further plotpoints for the audience for no reason. They leave a lot of stuff unexplained anyways so why would they tell anything about Andor characters is beyond me.
     
  5. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    If Coruscant's Luthen "Antiquities Dealer to the Imperial Senate" Rael was once a Jedi, he was assuredly not named Jedi Luthen Rael.
     
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  6. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I know some people who think he’s Rael Aveross. Although he’s almost certainly not as Rael is described as a darker skinned man.

    maybe Luthen is a Jedi maybe he isn’t
     
  7. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    I doubt he's a Jedi, I think he's someone who could've been in contact with the main political players Padme, Bail, Palps, Mas Amedda and Sate Pestage as well as Mon. He's been on the side lines during the Clone Wars, has seen through the masquerade Palps put up and decided he wasn't going to stand back and watch the galaxy descend into the hands of evil.
     
  8. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I doubt he's a Jedi considering how openly he operates on Coruscant.
    I think he's probably an antique dealer who kept up his business as a front once he was radicalized.
     
  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I think the only reason some people think he’s a Jedi is because of the Kyber crystal which he says is worth about 50,000 but is priceless to him
     
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  10. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Correct. All of this line of discussion stemmed from his "priceless" Kyber Crystal.

    It could just as easily be priceless because he's saving it in hopes of finding a Jedi but the disguises and all of that business in conjunction with placing limitless value on the main component of a lightsaber just lent themselves to this sort of speculation.

    But his name as a Jedi was most definitely not Luthen Rael. This bloke doesn't even use his real hair in his guise as an antiques dealer.
     
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  11. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Agreed. My guess is that his name was Jedi Master Luuthen Raael.
     
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  12. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I hope Andor stays with no Jedi. No force anything actually. So no Vader no emperor no Jedi.

    every single Star Wars show has had at least one force sensitive person (and no @Bor Mullet you know what I mean)

    I would like Andor to be the first to fully focus on not that.
     
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  13. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Kyber crystal is certainly one aspect. So is his telescoping walking stick. His antique shop filled with Jedi/Sith artifacts. His lightsaber wielding spaceship. And his beauty speech in the second last episode about sharing his dreams with ghosts, losing his calm, kindness, kinship, love. Giving up all chance at inner peace.

    Luthen's speech can be interpreted in many different ways, thats part of what makes it so good.

    I certainly agree, if he was a Jedi, he wasn't using the name we know him by now.
     
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  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Also not every Jedi needs to related to every other Jedi we meet. Not that I think he’s a Jedi. But I understand why people read it that way
     
  15. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I was an advocate of the items in his shoppe being evidence until it dawned on me that a Jedi wouldn't sell a Holocron.
     
  16. Sproj

    Sproj Jedi Master star 4

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    From memory though, the holocron was in the back of the shop right? I don't think he was selling it but can't remember.
     
  17. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yes almost all Jedi related items were in the back of the shop where only would ever see them.
     
  18. Jolee Bindo

    Jolee Bindo Jedi Master star 3

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    The comment that the crystal is "priceless" to Luthen to me is just about him being a genuine lover of history, especially because the crystal's history represents resistance against oppression which is what his character is all about.
     
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  19. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Luthen's speech is a broad statement. If it has the meaning I assign to it it doesn't mean him and Mace Windu were drinking buddies.

    The Jedi were all related to each other in terms of being trained in the same temple, all trained in part by Yoda, all took orders from the same Jedi Council, so on.

    My best wishes for the character are that he was a Jedi, but has forsaken the Force and being a Jedi because his actions in the rebellion are dark and morally questionable at best. Luthen ceasing to use the Force would also help explain how he hides in plain sight.

    And hopefully he never uses the Force again, if he ever could in the first place.

     
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  20. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I absolutely can’t wait to see what happens to him in S2. Perhaps the most intriguing Star Wars character ever.
     
  21. Cos Palpatine

    Cos Palpatine Jedi Master star 4

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    Pretty safe to say he's going to be killed. How and why are the intriguing parts.
     
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  22. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Well, yeah, that's what I meant. I just want to see what he does and says in S2, and how he meets his end.
     
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  23. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In addition to being something that Jedi and Sith use in lightsabers, and something that the Empire used a prodigious amount of in its Death Star superlaser... kyber crystals also seem to be something of an underground fiat currency. They are regarded as having great monetary value because... well, I'm not sure, but they are. People buy and sell them at great price or exchange them for expensive goods or services.

    I don't know if this was always the case throughout galactic history, or if perhaps the Empire's insane thirst for the things caused people in the galaxy at large to become aware of them and / or regard them as something that must be worth a lot.
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    If Luthen doesn’t die than would be a huge shock
     
  25. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Luthen will become Lor San Tekka. You heard it hear first. :p
     
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