Lit Mace Windu ALIVE!!!...according to Samuel L. Jackson anyway

But can a Jedi survive both?

 

I think this is now going to be my head canon of how that went down.

 

It is different. Lucas controlled the franchise. Pablo doesn't, so he has even less of a say.

If they want Mace Windu back, he would come back. Backfilling a lame explanation (like with Darth Maul) is just part of the time-honored process of retconning a death.

Besides, there's always the saying: "Do not count a human dead until you've seen his body. And even then you can make a mistake."

 

D'aw.

 

Yep, Maul isn't a Jedi ....

Lucas said that 15 years ago, 15 years was a big deal. Maybe 15 years later, Pablo would say different things.

Pablo also controls the Rebels franchise and he says Mace is dead. Where will Mace show up other than the Rebels TV Show ?

 

I'm afraid I don't understand how that's any more relevant than it was the last time you mentioned it. Could you please explain?

 

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be...unnatural.

 

Yeah, he said that already. I don't understand why it's relevant to the possibility of Mace Windu's survival, though. Why is it necessary for him to be a Sith, or otherwise fluent in the dark side, to survive being blasted by Palpatine and having his hand chopped off? That's what I'd like explained.

It's not like "SURVIVE THINGS THAT COULD HAVE KILLED YOU" is some catch all superpower that only the Sith have access to.

Does Finn need to be a Sith to survive into Episode VIII?

 

Why is that not a Meme yet?

 

''Palpatine says that the dark side of the Force leads to abilities that some would consider to be unnatural, and one of those things is cheating the death. The Sith see death as defeat. The Jedi see it as the natural progression of things.''

-- Star Wars Insider 132 (2012)

The thing with the Jedi is that they would never try to cheat the death unlike the Sith. That's also why Anakin has failed to find a way to save her wife from a certain death as a Jedi, he asked Yoda, and Yoda said that death is a natural part of life and accept the faith and rejoice for the others who transform into the Force, mourn them do not and miss them do not. Palpatine however said that only Dark Side would cheat the death, and he couldn't learn that from the Jedi. Which is true. Not because Dark Side is actually more powerful, it's because Dark Side never accepts the death, while Light Side accepts it and never denies it.

 

Would adding a U produce the same result?

Want to Yoda, but name rule won't allow it.

Yuda now is clonable.

 

I think it would be great if they bring him back.
In my eyes his survival would be more likley than Mauls or Boba Fetts.

 

P-canon
Pablo-canon

Here is a famous equation that explains how P-canon works:



where P = Pablo

You've heard of Leland Chee's Holocron of everything canon, right? The Holocron is a box. Where is P in the box? How much energy does P have in the box? What is his potential tweeting energy? Come on people, this is not hard. What is his wavefunction? If P waves at you, what does that mean? Do the math.

Of course the answer is P can really be anywhere in the box. He can also be outside the box. P-canon can exist in a dimensional space where he is and is not at any given time. These are the ways of P-canon.

We originally thought we understood P-canon, until Disney et al. (2012) proved that we cannot use G as a constant.

 

Kinda. Yuda would be cloneable however in that case the clone will be the opposite gender. In fact Yadle's real name is Yuda.

 

Dude.

The Jedi see death as a natural part of life, yes.

They do not see being murdered as a natural part of life.

Surely you can see the distinction? Surely.

If we follow your reasoning, then every Jedi character in the series is betraying their values when they take advantage of their preternatural Force senses to deflect a blaster bolt that would have taken their life.

Jedi do not believe in subverting the natural order, true, but Mace Windu's survival would not involve any such subversion. As I've already mentioned, we have seen other Jedi survive amputation. We have seen other Jedi surviving falling from great heights. We have seen other Jedi survive being blasted by lightning.

It really doesn't require any strenuous mental effort to envision a scenario where an exceptional Jedi could, indeed, survive all three.

I've no qualms with those who object to Mace's survival on the grounds of it being hackneyed, boring or 'comic book'. Different strokes. But to suggest it couldn't be done is daft, and the commentary regarding the Sith/"cheating death" remains entirely irrelevant to the situation.

 

Except this is not being murdered. It's cheating the death.

This is not something you can survive without the cheating the death. Even Yoda gets very roughed up after that his little fall in the senate hall in his duel with Palpatine, and Obi-Wan only survived his fall in Utapau due to the falling into a river. Not to mention, there was no river or sea in the place where Mace fall, and he was severely wounded when he falls, one of his arms was cutoff and Palpatine shot him with Force lightning to the death.

The lightning scenes between Luke and Mace is completely different because ;

- Luke was trying to defend himself with the Force and that's why he manages to survive a little bit, and then shortly after Vader saved him anyway.



''Luke raised his arms to deflect the bolts. Initially, he was successful - the lightning rebounded from his touch, harmlessly into the walls. Soon, though, the shocks came with such speed and power, they coursed over and into him, and he could only shrink before them, convulsed with pain, his knees buckling, his powers at ebb.

Vader crawled, like a wounded animal, to his Emperor's side.''

--- Taken from ; Return of the Jedi Novelization

- Mace was completely un-armed and he couldn't use the Force to defend himself unlike Luke did in RotJ due to his severed arm injury.




And surviving a fall from a Skyscraper is alone enough to make this cheating the death, even without his arm and that Force lightning injuries from Palpatine.



I will take that quote from the Clone Trooper that saw Obi-Wan's fall ;

Commander Cody : ''Did you find Kenobi?''
Trooper X : ''Sir, no one could've survived that fall.''
--- Revenge of the Sith

 

I don't think Mace is alive, but seriously, could you have picked a worse quote to use?

 

It left me too confused to continue so, by that measure, it was a pretty good choice.

Ultimately, I'm simply of the mind that we can't possibly rule anything out, because the PTB can change their minds at any time. But I am very confident that, should they bring Mace Windu back, it won't involve any kind of "cheating of the death" dark side superpower. It's not necessary.

I think it's kind of silly to think that Palps wouldn't make sure Mace was dead before throwing him out the window, mind you.

 

My second most wished for movie (after a Kenobi one) is some type of story involving Mace Windu during the Dark Times. Or at least have him in a comic or Rebels appearance.
I still remember some of those "leaked" episode 7 scripts from SuperShadow had an 80 year old Mace fighting Boba Fett or something crazy like that.

 

I want a comic to remake Shatterpoint according to new canon so, so bad.

 

Thinking about it, a Vader Jedi Purge movie featuring a seven samurai team-up of down-and-out Jedi survivors (kind of like everything they comics already did with the purge over and over) would really be what "everyone" wants to see, especially if spin-off films will prominently cut down on lightsaber action and the ST ends with a long break before Ep10. And having Jackson as the movie's star (next to Vader's armour, of course) would immediately sell the project. I can already see the "Tarantino is guest-directing a scene" rumours.